2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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Some Texas caucus results

The early results, though, Have Obama ahead -- sometimes by quite large margins -- in 21 of 31 Texas State Senate districts; Clinton leads, often by equally large margins, in the rest. (from Ben Smith/Politico)

http://i31.tinypic.com/24xospj.jpg

lol good call ned

she looks like Christian Slater.

http://superherouniverse.com/wallpaper/fanart/bingham/batman/joker.jpg

kind of gross: (in Ohio): 20% of Democrats (and these are Democrats, remember) saying that race was a factor in their decision; of those,three quarters went for Clinton. (also from Ben Smith)

again, the Clinton-Obama talk, real or not, is just sugar to make the superdelegate medicine go down easier

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1719614,00.html

don't call us, we'll call you

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Obama_says_it_is_premature_to_talk_about_a_joint_ticket.html

Haha, glad to see that. What stage is bargaining again?

Denial -> February doesn't matter
Anger -> The media is unfair!
Bargaining -> Hey where my veeps at?
Depression -> ???

Clinton will fight on for at least the next seven weeks, until Pennsylvania votes on April 22. To get an idea of how long a period that is in political years, the Iowa caucuses — remember them? — were only eight weeks ago.

OMG NO NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONONO

any word on why the networks only have 36% in for the texas caucus? it's been like that since this morning

yeah, I was gonna do the stages a while back too

...of grief?

obama: "I hope people start asking is what exactly is this foreign experience she is claiming," he said. "Was she handling crises during this period of time? I haven’t seen any evidence that she is more equipped to handle a crisis.

"She made the experience argument and her ability to handle a crisis, so I think it is important to examine that claim and not just allow her to assert it," he added. "She has made the argument that she is thoroughly vetted. If the suggestion is somehow that on issue of ethics or disclosure or transparency that she is somehow going to have a better record than I have or could (better) withstand Republican attack, then that should be tested."

oh shit its on now hillary threw the red phone on the table and now its on pray for us all

jhøshea, february's the longest month -- we're out of those woods

yeah, here come those attacks on Hillary you guys have been talking about

i was a t a bar last night and they were playing the rangers/islanders game and theres like one guy watching the fucking shoot out then they put the election comes on and everyone immediately crowds around and and starts talking abt super delegates and the texas caucus - its a national obsession everyone is an expert - i blame the blogs

they should agree to both campaign against mccain for the next 7 weeks and not each other

i was a t a bar last night and they were playing the rangers/islanders game and theres like one guy watching the fucking shoot out then they put the election comes on and everyone immediately crowds around and and starts talking abt super delegates and the texas caucus - its a national obsession everyone is an expert - i blame the blogs

-- jhøshea, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:45 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i think this is awesome

they should agree to run the fucking obama/clinton superticket i demand it !!!!

having clinton as vp nullifies obama's independent appeal

jhoshea = bro for the ages.

Yo jhøshea, come to dazzle ships tonight broheems

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how pathetic is it that in this election cycle the Republicans rallied around their candidate, McCain (who a fair portion of the party doesn't even like) quicker than the Dems did around theirs.

most dysfunctional party ever.

Even so I still don't see Hillary pulling this out. At this point she's just damaging the party's chances in November.

dazzle ships is 2 heathers jon?

@heathers

the GOP didn't have a choice, Shakey

shakey the diff is that the democrats have more than one candidate who is actually somewhat fit to be president

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little factoid via yglesias

2,833,000 Texans voted for John Kerry in the 2004 general election, but 2,857,000 people voted in last night's Democratic primary.

interpret plz

yeah you're right, shakey, i guess the democratic party needs to be more self-loathing to run a successful general election campaign

hillary's not dead yet, my condolences

I imagine that big factors in that number are a) population growth and b) the fact that no sane person thought George Bush would lose Texas. It still may bode very well.

i guess the democratic party needs to be more self-loathing to run a successful general election campaign

I have no idea what you mean by this

i was a t a bar last night and they were playing the rangers/islanders game and theres like one guy watching the fucking shoot out then they put the election comes on and everyone immediately crowds around and and starts talking abt super delegates and the texas caucus - its a national obsession everyone is an expert - i blame the blogs

-- jhøshea, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:45 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i think this is awesome

-- deej, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 11:46 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yah i mean fundamentally i think its a v good thing for the country that everyone cares so much - but on the other hand this election is driving me fucking insane

How Pennsylvania Shapes Up Demographically.

Sullivan: it's Limbaugh's fault.

unbelievable

jhøshea, Heathers tonight

so theres talk of obama going negative
http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/05/change-versus-more-of-the-same-part-ii/

is that really a good idea?

Clintons will NOT be stopped. Til McCain....

is that really a good idea?

we'll see! I think probably it is, its their only option. If they don't respond aggressively and control the news cycles, Hillary will press her advantages. otoh, Hillary will invariably respond with more "poor widdew me" antics and crying etc

(also I think where their going IS totally legit - Hillary's "foreign policy expertise" is bullshit, and the Clintons have all kinds of ethics skeletons in their closet)

he should make a commercial of her bragging abt her "important work" in bosnia then cut to footage of her singing w/sinbad

hahaha, otm

roflz

so apparently Hillary's victories last night have not narrowed Obama's delegate lead at all...? way to go shrillary

I think the 'talk' of Obama going negative is now 'reality'. Or maybe, to be fair, he's just determined to get tougher with HRC starting now. Curious to see how this plays out.

Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant.

lolz

i gotta go in a min but can someone explain to me why SUPERTICKET is so laughable on its face beyond the obv animosity b/w the two right now? would clinton as veep really kill o's independent appeal?