Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

re: gale's headwound, not to be all CSI about it or anything but bullets often make little holes going in and big ones coming out

yeah not to put too fine a point on it but bullet-to-front-of-head and bullet-to-back-of-head seems pretty straightforward "shoe is on the other foot now" to me

there's about a gazillion ways they could've killed andrea, answering a nighttime knock on yr door and getting popped out of the blue without provocation is similar enough for a show that obv trades in patterns and mirroring (e.g. walt absorbing his victim's traits).

granted gale was involved in a criminal enterprise but his childlike naivete made him at least appear to be an innocent among the rest of the underworldlings... this convo actually reminding me how disturbing gale's death was at the time, in part because two souls were lost in the transaction - gale physically and jesse morally. that's its own form of doubling, and it just occurred to me that andrea's death also has two victims, herself and brock. I guess we should count jesse as victim there but I kinda feel like the guy died inside a long time ago and is just a shambling shell at this point. or maybe he is we in this context - the helpless watcher(s) left behind to make sense of an irreversible violence. hall of mirrors.

the gale/andrea situations aren't perfect mirror images of each other - if they were it would be facile and not very interesting to contemplate imo - but the echoes call attention to jesse's killing of gale, an event that even at the time felt to me like a pivot point on which this whole sad story would turn, or maybe just the moment which came closest to reaching a dostoevskian level of engagement with the material. the whole series is almost a nonstop exercise in finding out how much innocence its players can lose, no matter where they fall on a moral continuum.

stevia ricin is an interesting red herring

I know right

this show has made me so sensitive to false telegraphing

By the way, who the fuck has milk with camomile?

what motivation does walt have for killing Lydia idgi

if he talks to Skylar he'll have motivation

I'm thinking the ricin will be used either for walt, or not at all, and I'm leaning towards the latter. that includes any uncle tio type slapstick like walt poisoning lydia at the same time todd busts in to propose marriage, knocking over her teamug in the process, the clumsy oaf

xxp she's still profiting off of his product

Lydia has told Todd that just scaring Skylar isn't good enough (xposts)

though i don't imagine skylar knows that quite yet

Lydia has told Todd that just scaring Skylar isn't good enough

this makes more sense, but Walt doesn't know this...? I guess he could find out that the nazis threatened his family and then tie that back to Lydia but I dunno how he would find that out, since he can't talk to his family

and yeah Skylord doesn't know Lydia's role

(xpost) yeah but Todd waved a big red flag of who was behind the scare, the instructions to Skylar were "don't talk about that lady who came to the car wash or we'll be back"

Lydia wants Skyler dead. Walt is in NH. It's looking bad for Skyler. As if Walt needed more motive to dead-man-walking take out a bunch of motherfuckers in rage ...

Anyway, Skyler's life is essentially over.

I keep wondering - how much can possibly happen in the last eps, once walt shows up in NM w/ his big f'kn gun his time is pretty limited... then I remember the last two eps of S3 which were so compressed and tightly plotwound, spiderpiggin their way out of painted corners is these writers' raison d'etre

saying "man how will walt get out of xyz situation" or "how will he find out about such and such" seems pointless at this juncture, they've satisfactorily uncliffhangered shit before and they'll do it again

how many weeks ago were we all wondering how the hell the white homestead was going to survive jesse's gascan ragemode?

ANSWER ME

www.imdb.com

Guys.

I already know how this show is going to end.

It's already on the Internet.

Walt sits alone in a jail cell.

As the camera pulls back, he takes the ricin from inside his toothpaste.

He swallows it. The scene then fades into this:

http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1379891427749.gif

walt/jesse are imprisoned together and resolve their differences during a 15 year stint

final scene
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1269850/raising-arizona-prison-break-o.gif

It was obvious in the context of the scene that Gale knew this explanation was bullshit.

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, September 24, 2013 4:26 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont think so, gale was shown to be pretty naive what with his libertarian philosophy and everything - i dont think he realized he was in such a deadly business, dont think wouldve been involved if he realized how dangerous it was

https://twitter.com/Lowenaffchen/status/381910686559109120

plus if he thought he was dealing with such dangerous ppl as a libertarian he would've been required to pack heat

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Andrea and Gale both got shot on their doorsteps but that's pretty much where the parallels end.

no; both involve the character of Jesse, which means "parallel" is too gentle a term. They're shooting deaths on doorsteps in which Jesse is directly involved: watching one, doing the other one. the one he carries out he does out of self-interest. the one Todd carries out is Todd acting out of self-interest (keeping Jesse compliant). Andrea's death forces Jesse to watch someone doing what he did.

Been there, done that. Like watching Todd shoot the kid. Or Jack kill Hank. Or anyone else who has met untimely deaths on this show. I'm not seeing the parallel at all beyond the fact that they both get shot.

Hank and Andrea both got shot in the back of the head, both by the same nazi gang, both while one of our meth dealing protagonist was forced to watch, both outdoors rather than inside an apartment.

http://www.vulture.com/m/2013/09/krysten-ritter-breaking-bad-essay.html

Todd's silencer was the Todd of silencers

I'm w/ aero, I'll just post this again cuz I'll just end up repeating myself anyway

there's about a gazillion ways they could've killed andrea, answering a nighttime knock on yr door and getting popped out of the blue without provocation is similar enough for a show that obv trades in patterns and mirroring (e.g. walt absorbing his victim's traits).

granted gale was involved in a criminal enterprise but his childlike naivete made him at least appear to be an innocent among the rest of the underworldlings... this convo actually reminding me how disturbing gale's death was at the time, in part because two souls were lost in the transaction - gale physically and jesse morally. that's its own form of doubling, and it just occurred to me that andrea's death also has two victims, herself and brock. I guess we should count jesse as victim there but I kinda feel like the guy died inside a long time ago and is just a shambling shell at this point. or maybe he is we in this context - the helpless watcher(s) left behind to make sense of an irreversible violence. hall of mirrors.

the gale/andrea situations aren't perfect mirror images of each other - if they were it would be facile and not very interesting to contemplate imo - but the echoes call attention to jesse's killing of gale, an event that even at the time felt to me like a pivot point on which this whole sad story would turn, or maybe just the moment which came closest to reaching a dostoevskian level of engagement with the material. the whole series is almost a nonstop exercise in finding out how much innocence its players can lose, no matter where they fall on a moral continuum.

can't believe anyone is doubting an intended parallel with Gale/Andrea. This is the same show that went to great lengths last week to remind us that the place where Hank got killed was the same place Walt and Jesse did their early cooks.

yup. he even dug their graves in advance! this show's blunt referencing (one of my favorites is still "NOTHING stops this train!" one episode before the train robbery) is one of the most fun things about it

Edward I think your conclusions are aeroneous.

Yeah, I think the desert oigins echo was a bit more overt; Walt is nothing if not sentimental, so of course he buried his money where he began. I'm not sure how much to read into Andrea I mean, they had a picture of her posted in the lab, implication being if you fuck up, we will kill her. Jesse tried to escape, so they kill her. Just a further payoff of the "no exit" scenario.

Anyway:

Especially when a father writes a scene like the one where Walt is begging his son to take the money, really tearing himself open. Interesting sideline: Bryan did that scene, knocked it out of the park, and then the film was run over by an airplane. I kid you not. Our post-production producer Diane Mercer still has the crushed film cans. We had pictures of film being brought into our labs in garbage bags. We had to go back and reshoot a portion of that scene. Bryan had to go through all that twice.

apropos nothing, i wonder if Todd still has Drew Sharp's spider-in-a-jar

It's his Holly. He has one o the Nazis feeding it while he's out killing people.

Has Jesse been pooping in the bucket and then Todd somehow hoisting that out of the brig since his capture?

spider-in-a-jar grew up to be the nazi with the crazy moustache.

jesse had the other bucket he was standing on to escape. i'd imagine that's the poop bucket.