DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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I am someone who runs a mile from any form of physical confrontation normally, but
I reckone I could 'ave him without too much bother.

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 10:09 (twelve years ago)

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 10:29 (twelve years ago)

I never understand why broadcasters seem to accept without question that someone with a placard or a loud voice should disrupt this sort of interview

Because we live in a democracy and they chose to conduct the interview in a public place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 10:45 (twelve years ago)

Living in a world where you feel justified in wrestling an OAP to the ground for annoying you. Oh dear.

mmmm, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:01 (twelve years ago)

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

The usual: Lack of evidence...

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:07 (twelve years ago)

i think they protestor would have to lodge the charge himself, in this case. i hope he does.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:21 (twelve years ago)

i can't understand why the electorate is so apathetic nowadays with guys like Damian McBride and his pals generating important ideological content every day

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:22 (twelve years ago)

looks like i picked a bad week to give up calling for purges

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)

what the fuck are you playing at, labour

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10327874/Labour-new-measures-to-make-insulting-military-personnel-a-criminal-offence.html

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:27 (twelve years ago)

also, dispatch from the frontline of the Labour conference: Chuka Umunna is just THE WORST. Those days I was optimistic about him seem very far away now

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

okay can we just purge these fuckers and start again from scratch?

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

What did he do? Is he just a teflon neoliberal careerist or is there new info? xp

aldi young dudes (suzy), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:29 (twelve years ago)

why the fuck do war-loving anti-socialist Torybots in disguise even want to be in the Labour oh never mind

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:29 (twelve years ago)

nothing especially new on top of that suzy, undisguised corporatist thru & thru

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:30 (twelve years ago)

actual exchange in Umunna fringe event:

Q from audience member who said she was a young party member but had surely just come to the wrong conference, paraphrased: I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

[rumblings from audience]

Umunna, with unseemly enthusiasm: Oh, no! We WANT you to make your first million!

(This on top of a speech in which he'd repeatedly conflated "betterment" with "earning more than your parents". Fuckwit)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:33 (twelve years ago)

plus he literally defended that Mandelson filthy rich comment by saying "oh what no one reports is that the second half of the sentence was "as long as you pay taxes""

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:34 (twelve years ago)

That's just fairly standard NuLab True Believer stuff really, surprised anyone expected anything different of him.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:38 (twelve years ago)

i mean i always knew blunkett was a confused moralistic authoritarian moron, but jesus.

Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 12:49 (twelve years ago)

I could have sworn I just read that he actually compared online pornography to the rise of the Nazis, but I can only assume that I just haven't woken up yet.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:07 (twelve years ago)

Q from audience member who said she was a young party member but had surely just come to the wrong conference, paraphrased: I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

lol sounds legit

you will not expect her to say, “Yea, cause you are the bomb. (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:10 (twelve years ago)

xp well, you see, online porn made people scared of diversity and then they had no choice but to become fascists, that was how the weimar republic collapsed

Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:11 (twelve years ago)

Oh wow Sodom & Gomorrah AND Nazi Germany. I'm trying to think about what might be the third bit of that trifecta and coming up blank.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)

I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my aspirations, if I'm successful they'll just take half of it away in tax

funnily enough their refusal to do this is why I'm hugely disillusioned by labour

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:14 (twelve years ago)

Nazi fetsih porn became so widespread in the Weimar republic that eventually it became cool to be a Nazi.

I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my asp (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:27 (twelve years ago)

Miliband's "freeze energy bills until 2017" policy is all well and good until energy firms decide en-masse to get all their price rises in at once, just before the cut-off.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)

"Robin Hood and the outlaws - they were called that because they were outside the law - that was not a sustainable position in the 13th Century and it's not a sustainable position now."

Helen Goodman there, shadow minister for media etc

I'm disillusioned about what Labour are going to do to my asp (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)

"Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of unsustainable and financially unviable men.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

Striking imagery:

2) Brown used to rehearse his speeches while McBride shouted abuse at him

This was done when he first became prime minister, to prepare him for hostile crowds. Favourite heckles were: "You stole my pension, Brown!", "You're a bigger bastard that Blair!" and "Where's the gold, Brown?", which particularly infuriated him. Sometimes he could not help shouting back.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2013/sep/24/damian-mcbride-10-things-book-labour

having nunavut (seandalai), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)

#10 is pretty damning.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)

the evening news is full of spokespeople for big businesses bleating like crazy, EMil must've said something good

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)

"You're a bigger bastard that Blair!" is my new favourite insult

caek, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)

those pretend insults are way tamer than what Brown must've experienced irl

looking forward to the movie from the people that brought us The King's Speech tho

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

Fuck sake yeah, where's the stuff about him being mentally unstable and on drugs, you know like Andrew Marr laid on him?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

Or not caring about dead soldiers and going out of his way to actively insult their mothers, like the Sun accused him of

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)

got vision's of EMil's spin coach locking him in a room bellowing "A DECOND DLASS DETURN DO DOTTINGHAM, DLEASE" at him

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

Iain Dale quizzed over Brighton scuffle.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 12:49 (twelve years ago)

The Daily Mail, which has been railing against high energy prices and the energy companies for as long as I can remember, was utterly wrongfooted by Miliband's speech. Whoever the columnist was just started ranting about how terrible it was that he'd pledged to do what they'd been campaigning for all along.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:07 (twelve years ago)

srsly since last night Radio 4 has been nothing but energy company PRs making increasingly hysterical threats to leave the country, kill the first-born, blow up the sun etc

this week's conference was about as a socialist as a Jim Davidson gig but the trolling of the rich has been A1

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:11 (twelve years ago)

Credit to them this is about the most populist policy imaginable. Energy companies and rabid free marketeers are about the only people who will care.

Possibly the more significant move is Ed Balls offering up manifesto pledges to the OBR is a smart move as well in that he knows full well the OBR won't do it and it will look like the government have something to hide.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:15 (twelve years ago)

The Daily Mail, which has been railing against high energy prices and the energy companies for as long as I can remember, was utterly wrongfooted by Miliband's speech. Whoever the columnist was just started ranting about how terrible it was that he'd pledged to do what they'd been campaigning for all along.

I just spotted their front cover in the supermarket and it was hilarious. the headline is all, like, "they are threatening boosting minimum wage! and threatening keeping energy prices from rising!", and I'm thinking, you'd have to do some pretty impressive journalistic jujitsu (they don't) or have a particularly addled readership (they do) to argue those as bad things, surely!

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:26 (twelve years ago)

Credit to them this is about the most populist policy imaginable. Energy companies and rabid free marketeers are about the only people who will care.

Hopefully they're doing a sort of switcheroo here, re-directing the GBP's righteous fury at welfare recipients to someone more deserving of their ire, corporations/ cartels/ capitalist scumbags in general... hopefully

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)

An energy tycoon plans next move against Miliband, yesterday

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/simpsons-mr-burns-blocks-out-the-sun1-640x353.jpg

Neil S, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:24 (twelve years ago)

is he going to be charged with assault, and if not why not?

Iain Dale quizzed over Brighton scuffle.

realistically what would he get if this went to court? or would it end up as a caution? if it could somehow wreck his career then some persuasive folks need to take placard dude out for a nice meal and get it sorted. the blog post was the most pomous repugnant thing i've seen all week - proud he'd knocked around an older smaller harmless man and his dog. guess he wouldn't get prison and he'd warp it to some marytr campaign but if it could somehow mess with his life by banning him from going to certain places or something then it'd be so worth it

NI, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

No way would that lead to a prison sentence, more's the pity

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)

also, damian mcbride really does have the face he deserves. a nauseating shiny sweaty shifty-eyed headblob, disgusting looking man to match his disgusting deeds. i know alastair campbell's deemed an a1 scrote and all that but his rant against mcbride & co on bbc5 the other night was some stand-up-and-cheer stuff. that guy can speak

NI, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

does his subsequent blog post break the law at all? whole unsavoury proud rant about how he shoved about an old man in a public place. just wondering if the poor-person equivalent - say someone roughing up someone outside a nightclub then bragging afterwards on facebook - would receive lighter/heavier punishment

NI, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

cheering for Campbell attacking McBride is the vanity of vanishingly small differences

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)

Campbell's probably done shit that's as bad or worse than McBride (lol Iraq etc) but you get the sense that what's really fuelling his anger is McBride's decision to sell bits of his book to the Mail on the eve of the Labour conference. That would be unforgiveable crossing over to the other side for Campbell who's about as tribal as they get.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)

for a guy who helped drive the stake thru the heart Campbell is weirdly attached to the idea of the Labour party, whereas yr McBrides strike me as agents of fortune who happened to wind up in that government, but they're all still cunts

Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)

This is cool, though: 'Det Sgt Stephen French said: "A man was exercising his right to protest in a public place when this incident took place.'

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)


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