Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

*griffith

looked v difficult, he'd have to shove it up while dangling from one arm?

the whole time I was watching this all I could think of was "why doesn't he work to swing his legs up and hook his feet through the bars, then it will be easier to support his weight while he picks the lock"

but no

so like a wholesome all-american simple well-mannered kid?

"opie-looking" = "looks like opie from the andy griffith show." you're on your own from there.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9a/Teen_Opie_101.JPG

Opie is a very polite young boy.

he didn't say 'opie-looking' though, just curious about the characteristics of an opie

xpost, thanks

s1ocki, Walt decided to cook meth to get just enough money for his family to survive, but after interacting with the Schwartzes he started to have higher aspirations -- wouldn't let them pay for his treatment, and was insulted by it, and that was the seed of him wanting an empire, imo.

If anything, seeing them sitting on their cash and using it to contribute to a cause that's reparative to the damage meth does to the community is making him want to sit back on the top of his own empire -- his cash. Which is now with the nazis.

I mean, really what does Walt have left other than his money?

hat

cancer is his only friend

shit forgot about the hat

even though he was completely emotionally wrecked he still called himself into the fbi in the coolest way

"this is walter white" * drops phone*

willing to bet they get a million hoax Walter White calls a week. good thing the cops were all like "SEEMS LEGIT"

its not like a real police station

The blue meth is his, he won't let anyone else produce it.

If anything, seeing them sitting on their cash and using it to contribute to a cause that's reparative to the damage meth does to the community is making him want to sit back on the top of his own empire -- his cash. Which is now with the nazis.

― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Monday, September 23, 2013 7:58 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that does seem as elemental and compelling and urgent as this show tends to be, tbh

Do you think that's the last we'll see of Saul? Looked pretty final but they could have given him a better final scene if so.

agree on this. too rushed and not enough explanation of what brought saul there and what happened to him. i know it's walt's story not saul's but it felt too dismissive of one of the best characters in the show. loved the scene of him and walt in the room together, could have happily watched a full 'rope' style episode of this this. or at least one of those little in-between-seasons web-only videos the producers made a few years back.

and the shot of jesse being busted climbing the fence was one of the most gutting moments ever put to tape/video. up there with that bit in funny games.

agree on this. too rushed and not enough explanation of what brought saul there and what happened to him. i know it's walt's story not saul's but it felt too dismissive of one of the best characters in the show. loved the scene of him and walt in the room together, could have happily watched a full 'rope' style episode of this this. or at least one of those little in-between-seasons web-only videos the producers made a few years back.

― NI, Monday, September 23, 2013 8:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did you guys forget the part where they're doing a whole tv show about him

I on the other hand like those abrupt farewells. Wouldn't at all mind if that's the last of Saul.

I think it's fine that we don't really know everything about why Saul has to leave, because it's completely plausible that there's enough blowback here for him to be forced out

xpost yeah but saul show is set pre-bb era, i'm talking about the events of this episode

This episode was Rocky II and Gretchen and Elliott were Adrian in the hospital bed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPgPrtOxvK4

xpost yeah it's definitely plausible, not flagging as a plot-hole or anything, just a personal preference

plus the final episode hasn't aired yet and we don't definitively know it was the last of him, anyway (though wouldn't be surprised if it was, being that he's in Nebraska).

I liked how Walt's public outing and the subsequent media storm were only alluded to, and they avoided the standard montage of TV anchors reading headlines. Brilliantly paced episode.

So how long was he in the cabin for, 3 or months? My first thought was 'shit, I hope he remembered to pack a book'.

it is kind of wild that in the BB universe he's basically world famous now

and hes not even leveraging the brand

woulda been funny if they cut to someone pulling up Urban Dictionary for the definition of "Heisenberged"

you have an interesting sense of humor

i loved walt n sauls final confrontation and split, so perfectly deflating of walts delusional drama

lol hes gonna take saul with him, sure buddy

yeah I would almost put $$$ on Jesse not killing anybody

stand you a beer next time I'm in your neighborhood that Jesse offs at least 2 people in the next episode and calls them bitches

good call

Walt wants to kill Nazis to get his money, Jesse wants to kill Nazis for pure vengeance -- the 2 find themselves partnered up for a few minutes in the final blowout, then each have to figure out whether to let the other live or make the final kill. Jesse makes the moral choice to walk away, Walt tries to kill Jesse but it backfires somehow. Walt dead, Jesse alive, fade to black.

i like it, except maybe the end

Then it fades in from black, showing Todd on libertarian neo-nazi island, the home he bought with the money he made off with. A black-haired woman in a bikini brings him a beer, but it is not Lydia. He looks wistfully off into the distance

woman looks into the camera and says "them's the breaks!"

the hat and the theme music were so cheesy that i wouldn't put it past them to have Walt shade tippin' and sayin' "who's your daddy?" in the finale

I like how Todd is the bizzaro-world Jesse - not exactly opposites but freaky mirror images...

There's lots of surface stuff - Jesse's a wannabe tough guy from a nice middle class family, defiant and impulsive - and looks and acts like a wacked-out stoner. Todd's a genuine psycho from a family of Aryan Nations thugs, obedient and calm - looks and acts like Opie.

But they're not entirely opposite - Todd's admiration for Walt is something Jesse once had - and they're both romantics, and they both show the only real capacity for affection almost in the whole show - even though Todd's is creepy and weird.

Having Todd's murder of Andrea mirror Jesse's murder of Gayle - knocking at the door in the middle of the night, shots to the back of the head - was really brilliant... a reminder that as much as we love Jesse, he too has killed an innocent, and at least part of the hell he's living in now is of his own making.

whoa there-gale was happily cooking meth for an international drug cartel, don't let the wacky karaoke videos fool you

Gale also tacitly approved of Gus murdering his beloved mentor, dude got what was coming to him imo

xpost i hadn't (consciously) clocked that, great observation. some brilliant stuff on this thread btw, from flat-out lols to insightful stuff like that.

ain't as if he had a choice, though.

xposts
yeah and Jesse was manipulated into it whereas Todd seemed to be running the show with Andrea's murder.... he's the one who wants to make Jesse make meth...

sure there's differences - but the two murders are definitely meant to be parallels, I think - and Jesse always believed he did have a choice and did the wrong thing... being forced to watch a similar crime to his own fits with his speech at the NA meeting when he's wracked with guilt about killing Gale: "If you just do stuff and nothing happens, what's it all mean?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njuIKGNcTVE

i can't get over the intensity of how bad it is to be jesse. i would take a comprehensively disappointing & misguided finale in which somehow he is redeemed & some sunbeam of possibility exists for him over anythin in which his burden is added to

aaron paul has depths

bryan cranston contains ... waltitudes

Don't really have anything to say/add about this one. Except that I fucking hate the deus ex Nazi. Like, all the dudes Walt has outsmarted, and this is who gets the best of him?

a-dog gonna be super-bumming right now

fuckin science ruins everything