Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

was v close to where i live btw

Todd's weird mix of sociopathy and eagerness-to-please really came out in this episode, such a great character.

Loved the Grey Matter thing coming back as well, a reminder that Walt's insane hubris ultimately comes from professional frustration. Any sense of right and wrong just completely trashed by being made to look like an insignificant chemist on national TV.

Obviously Walt now knows Jesse is still alive and can't cope with the prospect of Jesse potentially getting rich and becoming the kingpin off his formula. Obviously he doesn't know Jesse's being kept as a meth slave.

Jesse presumably has no idea where Walt is or what's been happening to him, for all he knows Walt directly ordered Andrea's death. So there's a load of false assumptions there that will fuel whatever happens when they come face to face.

That said, before Walt does anything else he's probably going to turn up and try and offer Skylar a suitcase full of money.

One thing I didn't get though, how the hell did the Nazis get into Skylar's house in the first place? Surely it would have been crawling with DEA?

they showed that one unmarked car sitting in front of the house, but they were apparently terrible at their jobs.

ya they just went through the back yard or w/e, the dea cant crawl all over it all the time

the ending got me really pumped, with the album cut of the breaking bad theme playing

Guess Jesse's epic "Bitch!" will be in the finale.

he cooks 100% pure meth unselfconsciously high fives todd and screams yeah bitch, todd kills brock

http://i.imgur.com/GxaK6qI.jpg

ok I get that he's supposed to be Krillin, but...

idg why everybody is flipping shit abt the end-title music?

like i recognized it but idk

it was badass.

it was cool but it played out a little weird too--like it was Walt's superhero music. "he's back!" i suppose it's intended as more foreboding but that music is basically a pavlovian pleasure generator for us addicts.

Felt like a western with the Morricone character theme starting to rise

The title theme hasn't appeared as incidental music to date. Sounded to me like a clear telegraph of "hey you thought Walter had broken all the bad but there is still some bad to break"

Loved the Grey Matter thing coming back as well, a reminder that Walt's insane hubris ultimately comes from professional frustration.

was v close to where i live btw

me too - where do you live?

Seeing that NH landscape got me psyched for this winter. I'm going to build a cabin!

And host meth lord refugees.

Walt's hubris and animosity toward his ex-girlfriend and ex-business partner are huge. He's had this chip on his shoulder about their success and his relative lack thereof, probably part of what spurned his motivation to build an empire, and them discounting his contributions really brought out the rage.

The glass of whiskey untouched on the bar was a good end note

no half measures

Robert Forster = A+

not so into the media narrative/Charlie Rose thing. I was wrong and they did go there but the suspension-of-disbelief stuff is coming pretty fast and furious now.

suspect we're in for a "say hello to my little friend" finale

also glad Saul got out alive (apparently)

me too - where do you live?

― Chantal Anchorman (admrl), Monday, September 23, 2013 11:36 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

near st johnsbury

Seemed like Charlie Rose was really overselling/overacting. How the fuck hard is it for him to just be Charlie fucking Rose?

The "how's he holding up?" "look for yourself" dialogue leading to the tv showing Walt raging around a room by himself was great

i don't think it's ever been explicit but it's pretty clear the Gray Matters blow-up was due to a love triangle of some sort, right?

i think walt just left and then the other two got together after he was gone iirc

probably part of what spurned his motivation to build an empire

Having gluttonously rewatched the series prior to the (half)season premiere, I'll say that Walt's jealousy towards Gretchen & Elliott seemed like a much more explicit motivating factor than I remember it being the first time I watched the show. Even prior to Walt basically spelling out as much to Jesse while they're chilling at his house.

the Gray Matters blow-up was due to a love triangle of some sort, right?

this was made explicit

ah ok. just in that flashback or in some other scene im forgetting?

i dont think so

xp the flashback being Walt talking about what elements make up the human body.

Do you think that's the last we'll see of Saul? Looked pretty final but they could have given him a better final scene if so.

yeah that's the scene I'm thinking of

xp

I think the most empathetic dread I felt for any character during this episode was that brief window when it looked like nu-Saul was gonna be saddled with nu-Walt for the foreseeable future. What a nightmare that could've been.

Walt, alone with Gretchen, pleads with her not to reveal the truth but won't explain any of his actions. Waving her checkbook around won't make him forget how she and Elliott "cut me out" and made millions off his research, Walt says. Gretchen reminds Walt that he was the one who left her without explanation, abandoning both her and Elliott. "Little rich girl, just adding to your millions," Walt retorts.

Yeah, Walt's been an obtusely delusional asshole for a long, long time.

ah! completely forgot about that.

ya she says walt left her w/o explanation, no love triangle

lol at gray matter as the name for some huge successful company

i got the feeling of a love triangle too -- i got the impression that walt was a brilliant arrogant asshole and he liked her, but she was not interested and he stormed off (possibly because of it)
not sure why i thought this, but that was the impression i've had

seemed like she always had a soft spot for him, which is why she kinda piped up during the charlie rose interview? this story may have never been made explicit, but it fits walt's general character i think. that early in the show, it also gave us the idea that he has not always been as mild mannered as he has pretended to be around his family.

they def put all the pieces in place for us to assume there was a love triangle and then yanked them away, the way i look at it walt left cause he couldnt deal w the prospect of success

they will never yank away my pieces of love triangle

give them back no drop it drop it

This should have been the final song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgIxixJjyHU

Great episode, totally bleak and heavy and the right note to hit after last week and going into the final episode...

But the ending left me a bit confused - I guess they'll pull it all together in the final episode... but what is Walt's motivation exactly now?

Is Walt going back to get the Nazis because he wants to get the money back?
And if so, is the idea that it's still sitting around in barrels in their compound months later?
And why does he give a shit about that money when he just abandoned 8 million in the cabin?
And why does he give a shit about the money if his son won't even accept $100,000, and Skyler couldn't take the money anyway since they have the DEA all over them as Saul described?

So if it's not about the money - it's what, revenge? For keeping Jesse alive to make blue? It's to protect the Colonel's 11 secret herbs and spices? Why would he care about that on his death bed?

Or is it all about getting recognized for his achievements? Gretchen and Elliot take all the credit for the Grey (Matter) and now he's being robbed of recognition for the Blue (meth)?

Besides all that... why didn't Walt seem to think the Nazis and Lydia would come after Skyler and his family? He knows Lydia's M.O. - of course she'd want Skyler dead and that Todd kills kids - but he's OK with leaving them unprotected?

Levity:

http://digitaldeconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aaron-Paul-Bryan-Cranston-Emmys-2.jpg

the money is as he said his lifes work, not worrying more about the safety of his family is just how he rolls

brio and me on the same page

which is sort of why I'm expecting a goal-less rage-filled revenge-fest bloodbath

what just cause he yelled that he wanted to kill the nazis then bought a big gun

i think hes gonna retire on a houseboat