Your Personality

Something I've noticed at a couple of places I've worked is that if you are outgoing and sociable and get along well with people, some people will hate you for this. It took me awhile to figure it out. So around these people I make a special effort to be more boring or something. The "damage" is already done though I fear.

(sorry, kind of talking to myself here, I guess that's my personality)
My everyday work persona is more or less just me. I suppose I iron out grumpiness/cattiness/showing off and should probably be more like this everywhere really...

But I feel kind of guilty that I even have this job, because I so totally didn't expect to get it that I went into the job interview thinking, "OK, this one is just practice," and put on what felt like total play-acting of confident candidate. I wonder sometimes if the interview panel are surprised at the difference between me as interviewee vs me as employee, not in terms of skills/competence (that would be too depressing) but whether they ever think "how is the confident smiley woman in a suit the same person as the sullen scruffy woman in the corner".

I guess that's fairly standard though or half the population would be unemployable and nobody would ever work in IT.

xpost I fear I do that a bit, possibly a kneejerk reaction from high school

Yah, sincerity/earnestness can be a lot of work with other v v sincere people. I have to keep cramming a lid on every normal response.

(xpost) Being one of those people who sometimes resents the really outgoing people at work...you don't need to be more boring around the quiet people, just try to include them in conversations sometimes. There are outgoing people at work I don't really try to talk to anymore because I've learned that when there are a few of them in a room, I'm not going to be able to get a word in edgewise.

i think i am often too sincere, and too forthcoming. i should learn to be more guarded.

I am v sarcastic but I tell people everything, tell everyone everything! It's v silly.

x-post Maria yeah I get that too, it is v annoying when you have those conversations at work where it's sort of a hierarchical and only certain people can contribute or say something funny/smart. sometimes has to do with seniority too.

yeah that's exactly it! i'm glad it's not just me.

I am v sarcastic but I tell people everything, tell everyone everything! It's v silly.

omg are you my long lost twin brother?

Well one of these experiences was at a place where I was the lowest person on the totem-pole in the entire office. Completely unbeknownst to me at the time, a posse of guys who worked there - who shared a flat - created a character in their Playstation wrestling game that was "me" and then used the game to kick the shit out of me. But even before that I had gotten the definite vibe that I needed to keep my head down and shut up and let the big nerds dogs have the run of the place.

that's just nonsense

Yeah to be fair that was the most extremely fucked up office environment I have ever been in. (hstencil can tell you more)

i really struggled with hierarchy/seniority when i worked in an office...often it just wouldn't cross my mind, esp when i was dealing with people who were senior to me but not my actual boss, and who had a penchant for being a bit overbearing and bullying. though the time i told a senior manager that i would not tolerate him raising his voice to me again and it turned into a 15-minute shouting match in the middle of the office, my boss was just like "uh you probably shouldn't speak like that to him but you were probably right anyway" later.

i don't think the differences in personality vis-a-vis work and social situations are as much to do with the people involved as what you're focusing on doing - if i was trying to work with friends around me i'd be just as grumpy and sullen as i was in an office, and when i went for drinks with my colleagues i wasn't a million miles away from who i am when i socialise with friends. really, i think the biggest changes in one's personality are the ones you never notice...when i run into friends who i haven't seen for a year or more, they'll often tell me that i've changed in certain ways, which i hadn't even been aware of.

There are outgoing people at work I don't really try to talk to anymore because I've learned that when there are a few of them in a room, I'm not going to be able to get a word in edgewise.

otm - the people who confuse "being sociable" with "being loud and never shutting up" are intolerable! people who are actually good at socialising know that giving the other people in the conversation the space to have their say is key. also another reason i hate them is more selfish - i like to have an active part in leading conversations, i really hate being silent and tapping my toes b/c i have nothing to say, but i'm not loud or impolite enough to be able to cut in on someone who's being loud themselves.

i get along with everyone at my job.

being the only straight guy in the office makes a big difference i think--i avoid both weird macho gender politics and weird female gender politics

not that there arent macho asshole gay dudes, just none who work in my office

Tza is dead on about code-switching. Around certain sets of friends I'll let my guard down and let myself say some really revealing or deep shit, but I might not (say) ever use a curse word around them. I'll speak slowly and kinda contemplatively around these people. There are other really good friends whom I'll greet with "motherfucker!!" that I'll go out of my way to maintain high energy around.

I've got to be superficially outgoing at work given that I work in an industry that requires friendliness and a desire to please, but I tend to crank it to 11 when there's a guest coming to me and then deflate to 2 when they walk away. "*stupid joke* Haha, all right well have a great evening. Hit the Careline button if you need anything? *mug, mug* Night! *smile fades, i take a sip of my water and take a breath and look back down at my monitor*"

There are certain coworkers I have nothing to say to. There are other ones who the security cam has caught me doing Happy Prospector Dances with at 8am.

Like one friend will tell you I'm a quiet dude. Another will tell you I'm hilarious. Another will tell you she doesn't really get me. etc

thinking more about the initial shyness thing, in some situations i am just very quiet, but in others i think i overcompensate by trying to be funny or witty (which generally just comes off as awkward). i think both of these are what result in people getting a weird, bitchy impression of me at first.

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i feel u on that people-think-im-a-bitch thing t, not me personally but a lot of my female friends, a lot of peoples attitude seems to be: girl who doesnt talk much around new people=bitch, dude who doesnt talk much=shy

i know ive said this before but my chick catches heat a lot cuz shes real quiet around people she doesnt know and its cause shes so shy but ppl find it bitchy/intimidating

yeah i mean i know she has to be a+ to be yr girl, but she did come off a little standoffish when i first met her!

loool ya, im used to it, unfortunately its this cycle--she doesnt talk, people think shes a bitch, she sees that and thinks they dont like her, and then she wont put in the time for her to start feeling comfortable, the solution, as always, is booze

the fact that she was intimdated by u and morbz and rox is lolsy tho, i cant think of 3 friendlier/funnier ppl

yeah the thing is, i am actually super nice! i even give people the benefit of the doubt that i shouldn't (though i would like to think i am getting somewhat better about this). but yeah my effort to not be shy like that results in the 'lol i am making jokes!' part of me that people see as too snarky or zingy for first meetings and i end up in the same place.

i mean, if you give me a few hours we'll probably be totally chill... but who knows? that's a lot of investment.

i try not to meet new ppl unless im 3-4 beers deep

^^^srsly helps, sad as it is.

My gf thinks I am the quietest man on earth.

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she did come off a little standoffish when i first met her!

i just thought she was quiet and rather more sober than we were (also v. pretty good work max)

dude who doesnt talk much=shy

Not always - I've been told by friends that their friends thought I came across as aloof and arrogant, when I was being shy and quiet!

i usually just think it means they don't like me.

Haha after my last party apparently my gf's friends think I am weird cause I retreated into my bedroom with a few of my people to read old poems for two hours

"Your boyfriend keeps Booming in the bedroom"

meeting new people when drinking can be hard, too sober = too shy and standoffish, too drunk = too outgoing and obnoxious.

Read this David Foster Wallace quote in RS last autumn that resonated a bit: "I think being shy basically means being self-absorbed to the point that it makes it difficult to be around other people. For instance, if I'm hanging out with you, I can't even tell whether I like you or not because I'm too worried about whether you like me."

But I don't think most shy people are shy to that extreme degree all the time anyway. Usually just trying to be cautious and not give too much of themselves away too early.

tza, youre a doll, don't change etc.

max i am abashed that anyone could be intimidated by ME (esp if they haven't read my dickhead posts).

i'm definitely reserved around certain people and very open (to the point of obnoxiousness maybe?) w/ others. i like to think i'm fairly affable when it comes to socializing w/ people i don't know very well/am meeting for the first time, esp. compared to say, five years ago - i guess the handful of ILXors i've met can testify as to whether this is true or not

to be fair to ari its always a lil bit awkward being the tagalong girlfriend

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I have been guilty of the self-absorbed "shy" thing and now force myself to talk to some strangers at parties.

and usually it turns out fine! so dumb Young Morbius.

the anxiety about talking to strangers at parties is by far my #1 dumbest and least well founded anxiety and unfortunately also one of my worst

yeah i've gotten a little better w/ that over the years. it's much easier when there's no attempt at romance involved

actually i find myself way less anxious about chatting up girls than about trying to make friends!

not that ive chatted up girls in a while

why am i using the phrase chatting up girls

i must have caught l0u1s jagg3r

Parties require a host or other active-minded person who does the legwork to get people talking via his/her knowledge of their common interests etc - it sounds very Miss Manners but it makes a gigantic difference to how well a party goes if even one person is like this

I mean it is a bit unfair to just expect guests to strike up conversations with absolute strangers - it's most peoples' least favorite thing in the world

if you said "chatting up birds" you'd be Michael Caine in Alfie

xxp

fwiw jergs, i was horrendously nervous about meeting you!

and felt like i talked wayyyy too much

I think my personality fluctuates quite a bit. I can be animated and get a long really well with some people, and some people I just don't click with at all, and can't think of any way to engage with them (and assume they hate me). With large groups of people I'm either bored and sullen, or I'm a bit OTT, there's no middle ground, which sucks to be honest. It'd be nice to be a bit more consistent, you know maybe quiet but nice, which was probably my default years back (but didn't exactly get me anywhere).

Another side of my personality is the super-pessimistic, super-sarcastic side that comes out a lot around really close friends. I have a pretty deadpan, dark sense of humor that's easily misinterpreted, so I try not to let it out at work or around new people, but one of the drawbacks to moving around a lot after college and becoming less shy is that I sometimes start assuming new friends know me better than they do. It's actually bothered a couple people who have taken it seriously.

this happens to me a lot!

we are like the same person!

I hafta admit once I passed 40, i started to think "OK, I know enough people. Stop."

i think for me, the essence remains the same no matter the situation, it's just the style that changes, if that makes sense - but i think that's probably the same for most people, and is really a function of living in society; you can't possibly express yourself in identical ways to your closest friends, parents, coworkers, clients/customers.

haha morbz i feel that way at 29

I fear my seemingly nice demeanor is actually a hoax. My snarky/sarcastic comments are proof of what's really going on underneath. heehee

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Definitely come across pretty differently in different situations. I have not so much a theory as a CONCEPT of social space as managed through etiquette being key to identity and at work and similar I'm pretty polite and relaxed but it comes from being detached and giving ppl a lot of room. A lot of people I meet like that are pretty slow to warm up to me and I've had people tell me they didn't know what to make of me at first. I can be pretty gregarious and love tagging along to a good party a little drunk and socialising w/friends of friends. Maybe it all just comes down to energy levels but when there's a good time being had I take the initiative more, get all welcoming, chat a lot of over the top shit about stuff and get enthusiastic about all plans/potential adventures. With my oldest and best mates the preferred activity is reducing each other to tears in mixed company to embarass them.
I can get awkward and really apologetic when being really polite to people, especially those who are older or intensely foreign, who are asking a lot of questions which I end up trying to answer too sincerely. But when I'm vaguely prepared I normally enjoy talking to new people. Thinking about it I probably feel weirdest/come across most different posting shit online cos I have no way of gauging people or properly interacting, but it's still decent overall.

Another side of my personality is the super-pessimistic, super-sarcastic side that comes out a lot around really close friends. I have a pretty deadpan, dark sense of humor that's easily misinterpreted, so I try not to let it out at work or around new people, but one of the drawbacks to moving around a lot after college and becoming less shy is that I sometimes start assuming new friends know me better than they do. It's actually bothered a couple people who have taken it seriously.

YES...jesus christ this happens me so often. the worst thing is I think that side of personality can be a real crutch. I met a very good friend on Friday who has a new gf and he was asking me about how looking for a job is going and without even intending it I came across like ultra grim, the worst part is when people find it funny and I keep doing it and then I think they think I'm actually that negative, esp cos when being sarcastic I say things I don't even mean but often people think you do mean them.

"I am v sarcastic but I tell people everything, tell everyone everything! It's v silly.

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omg are you my long lost twin brother?

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Someone asked me today if amusement parks make me maudlin. YES. YES THEY DO. This person doesn't know me well but has keen insight into my personality, I would say.

Or maybe I'm just the maudlin type and anyone could ask, "Does softball make you maudlin?" "Does breaking a wishbone make you maudlin?" "Do balloons make you maudlin?" And I would think, yes, yes, how did you know?

doing acting classes at the moment for about 5 hours a week, and on the way home one night one of the other students was telling me how she feels v shy at the start but then the classes get her all hyped up and when she gets home she's all energetic etc. and my experience is the polar opposite, the class makes me introverted and thoughtful in a way i like, and stops me being talkative/rash.

After reading some probably bogus pop psychology article in the Guardian a while back, I decided I am a shy extrovert. I'm always keen to hang out/party with friends (esp given my solitary day job) and make new friends, but if I'm at a social event where I don't know anyone I will just stand in the corner and stare at the wall rather than approach somebody. I'm also very quick to decide that the person I'm talking to isn't going to find me interesting and then find a way to autodestruct the conversation. The only way I know to counteract my shyness is alcohol, and that hasn't always ended well (though even my parents have told me I'm better company after a few drinks).

^^^ Wrote the above before reading the whole thread, seems like my profile isn't atypical on ILX...

I'd kinda like to see a Myers-Briggs breakdown of ILX. I have a feeling that my type (I(sometimes E)NFP) isn't terribly prevalent here, but I'd wager that a lot of the people here that I feel most simpatico with are of a similar bent.

pretty sure there's at least one dedicated Meyers-Briggs thread

here's one of them:

Is ILX run by NFs?

I've been hit with an MBTI questionaire at least three times (usually for job interviews). Twice I was an ENFJ, once an ENFP. Apparently I cling the line real closely on the judging/perceiving thing, near 50%. But I pegged the meter at 100% extroversion at least once....