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b3ta i think

― acrobat (elwisty), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

i figured

― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Is "Change" a BASIC command?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Don't think so. I'd have used a FOR loop.

― case of the mutual heart friendship (onimo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://base58.com/ilx/policeman.jpg

"I'm a PC"

http://base58.com/ilx/markmorrison.jpg

"I'm the Mack"

http://base58.com/ilx/policeman.jpg

"Then you're nicke-OWWWWWWW! TASERS!"

― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, and including the REM comment in the GOTO loop! Idiocy!

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

That's what David Walliams would do tho.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Bump for nu-ILX era

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 February 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Watching Screen Wipe this week, I was struck by Charlie Brooker's ersemblance to the bucket-owning seal:

http://www.arbitary.i12.com/stupidman.jpg http://www.arbitary.i12.com/charlie.jpg

Bucket-owning seal

http://www.flickr.com/photos/discoweasel/376246577/

Brooker

― aldo, Friday, 23 February 2007 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Lots of great new comedies starting on BBC2 last night:
Peter Davison's new sitcom about a middle-class family - he's a deadbeat-ish, stay-at-home, struggling-writer dad who is always getting it wrong, and is relentlessly admonished by his perma-peeved, go-getting wife. And his two teenage daughters are, well, just so much like teenagers!
The return of Dead Ringers an their uncannily accurate impersonations of TV presenters you can't quite recognise.
Graham Norton's new chat show, like the one he used to do on Channel 4. Surprised it took the Beeb so long.

― DavidM, Friday, 23 February 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Not to go all Bushell on you, but you watch that, and then you watch those three hour spots on FX where they have two episodes of Family Guy, two of Lucky Louie, and two of Chappelle's Show, and then you think "Wow, British comedy really fucking sucks"

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

Family Guy is rubbish

― Alan, Friday, 23 February 2007 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

gtfo

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Alan is right

― RJG, Friday, 23 February 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

You people are dead to me.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cutting FG a little more slack lately, but that 'Cartoon Wars' episode of South Park is still OTM.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Cartoon Wars" is the kind of reactionary regressive bullshit that Parker and Stone trade in these days. When South Park goes back to episodes like "Casa Bonita" or "Woodland Critter Christmas", then we can talk.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

cartoon wars wasn't LOL (a Bart Simpson cameo OMGZZZzzzz) but the FG crit was bang OTM

― Alan, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVED the animated thing in Screen Wipe tho. more of that please:

"they don't care for it do they?"

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, explaining why something "is" funny is a lot harder than explaining why something isn't. Family Guy has basically ascended to my favourite TV show currently running now because it's pretty much the perfect TV show for those of us born 1976-1986, raised on TV and easy access to video rental stores. High pop culture saturation and Seth McFarlane is kinda blessed with knowing what _is_ funny and what _isn't_ (qf the Petergeist episode, which is near perfect as 30 minutes of television).

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

American Dad blows, however.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

cartoon wars wasn't LOL

i laughed out loud at Cartman's general hatred for the show, the actual FG pisstake bits themselves, Cartman and Kyle's fight ("NO HITTING IN THE BALLS"), the manatees and more.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

that Peter Davison thing looked awful.

― Alan, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

because it's pretty much the perfect TV show for those of us born 1976-1986, raised on TV and easy access to video rental stores. High pop culture saturation and Seth McFarlane is kinda blessed with knowing what _is_ funny and what _isn't

you could argue this about South Park just as easily.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Needs more Alison Redman.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

xp, or maybe not.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

you could argue this about South Park just as easily.

No, you couldn't, because at centre the best episodes of South Park are the ones that have heart, when Parker and Stone obviously have some affection for Stan and Kyle (and, to a lesser extent, Kenny and Butters), and when Cartman is the asshole villain who has his little moment in the sun then gets taken down. The worst episodes of South Park are when the characters are just faceless ciphers for whatever OMG ISSUE THAT WE MUST TACKLE THIS WEEK that Parker and Stone have going on.

Where Family Guy stands alone from pretty much every other animated comedy (maybe every other sitcom) is that none of the characters are particularly good people. Homer hitting Lisa in the face with a baseball bat wouldn't be funny. Hank hitting Bobby with a baseball bat wouldn't be funny. Peter hitting Meg is, tho.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

american dad is incredible

so terrible that it would taint anything that was good about family guy if there were anything good about family guy which there isn't

I wish we had underline formatting

― RJG, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

family guy doesn't seem to have characters

however, it definitely does have a talking dog as well as a talking baby

― RJG, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's very weird to claim that Family Guy doesn't have characters, all of its lead have very very strongly defined personalities, moreso than, say, The Simpsons.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

when Parker and Stone obviously have some affection for Stan and Kyle (and, to a lesser extent, Kenny and Butters), and when Cartman is the asshole villain who has his little moment in the sun then gets taken down. The worst episodes of South Park are when the characters are just faceless ciphers for whatever OMG ISSUE THAT WE MUST TACKLE THIS WEEK that Parker and Stone have going on. [/]i]

except all of that is every episode ever pretty much. i know substance (rather than 'heart') isn't necessarily as important as roffles but the average SP has more of both than an average FG or Simpsons, for me - with KOTH probably one rung higher still altho the humour is obv. far more subtle and complex.

[i]is that none of the characters are particularly good people. Homer hitting Lisa in the face with a baseball bat wouldn't be funny. Hank hitting Bobby with a baseball bat wouldn't be funny. Peter hitting Meg is, tho.

this i ALMOST get. i mean not en episode of FG seems to go by without Lois or Meg getting punched in the face, but i don't find it funny and i don't really get it. it's not even slapstick violence and i find that bad enough now generally (see that terrible Simpsons trailer). i can see that Family Guy may be trying to question and break conventions re violence on women but....why...again? funny that South Park would never have Stan's Mom getting punched in the face - but then they don't have to do that, and I much prefer it that way.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Family Guy as misogynistic is a point that has been raised before many times, and you may be onto something with a point, but... violence against Meg is part of the problem that a lot of comedy writers have which is that they can write adult males (they are one), young males (they used to be one), and adult females (they fuck them). Teenage girls have always been problematic. Early on in FG Meg was kind of a faceless character, she just did bland "thank you daddy" schtick whenever she was called for, indeed, Chris was the lead child. Chris is a backseat character now because Meg has this personality of the character who everyone hates for no reason at all, she's an all purpose fall character. There's a history of characters like this in both literature and television (and, fantastically, I can't think of any at the moment), the characters who are despised despite doing nothing wrong... whether you're meant to feel sympathy for Meg (which I suppose is a mitigating factor) or just laugh at her (which is perhaps not) is up for you to decide. [Removed Illegal Link]

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Illegal link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRXm8vY9mU4

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

they don't seem, to me, to be "strongly defined personalities"

more like someone has written down:

character #1 - dog. talks. is sensible. smokes. very funny.
character #2 - baby. talks. makes gadgets to try to kill or escape from parents and take over world. very funny.
character #3 - son. stupid. stupid voice. very funny.

and so on

yes, I haven't watched many episodes of family guy but I have, probably, watched too many

― RJG, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeh i do see that with Meg. i find it rather disturbing tho, and indicative of the writers inadequacies. plus, they're still beating up poor Lois just as much. at least Lois has not become as annoying as Marge yet.

i just don't know why they bother centering things around the family unit at all. Brian and Stewie are better just on their own. Chris is pretty much a waste of space unless it's an evil monkey gag. Just write Meg out if you can't do anything good with her.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

character #4 - daughter. everyone hates for no reason at all. very funny.

― RJG, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

here's the thing from Screen Wipe i mentioned:

http://www.fat-pie.com/tv3.htm (or go to fat-pie.com and click 'tv3' link)

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

plus, they're still beating up poor Lois just as much.

Lois has beaten up Peter as many, if not more times, than vice versa. Including that "laying carpet at three in the morning" gag.

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

well i don't care for that either

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Peter deserves it tho, the fucker.

― blueski, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

i liked that thing on screen wipe too. looking fwd to hearing 90s comedian Stew Lee on 70s teen drama "you were mostly worried about being brainwashed by a thousand-year-old mystical cult or how to cope with being separated from your family while society collapsed back to a pre-industrial era"

― Alan, Friday, 23 February 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I keep going back for more Man Stroke Woman even though I really only laugh once or twice per episode (each seem to contain about 50 sketches), because I find all of the leads so appealing. I like Nick Frost, and Nathan Barley Dude, and Blonde Lady, and Woman with Mysterious Possibly American Accent.

― Ben Boyerrr, Friday, 23 February 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Man Stroke Woman: poorly written, well performed.

― chap, Friday, 23 February 2007 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Man Stroke Women is badly written, badly performed, badly everything. It may have been mildly amuding when I was twlve, but it really is a shockingly bad show.

I LOVED the animated thing in Screen Wipe tho

Check out David Firth's website, www.fat-pie.com All his cartoons are on there. The guys a certified genius - The Pulch is beautiful, and the Salad Fingers cartoons are sometimes cool, although not quite to my taste. And check out the Jerry Jackson cartoons (one of Firth's pseudynms, accessible from the main page) for some of the funniest short cartoons you will ever watch.

― The Wayward Johnny B, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I like Firth's cartoons based on his dreams. Also, it's nice to see what they really can't/won't show on telly (i.e. the two Brooker commissions that have been canned so far).

The most striking thing about Dead Ringers is the enormous gulf between the amount of effort that goes into the costumes and make-up and the amount of effort that goes into the writing. It's a real feature of a lot of current BBC comedy - high-production values (Tittytittybang, Little Britain, etc) and dire scripts. The voice talent on DR is OK, I guess, though Cornwell never really sounds like anyone but himself.

― Michael Jones, Saturday, 24 February 2007 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

But that's true of many impressionists' shows though Mike - Alistair McGowan and Ronni Ancona were plagued with the same thing - yeah yeah you sound very like Victoria Beckham/Mark Lawrenson/whoever, BUT YOU AREN'T FUNNY. AT ALL. (see also Only An Excuse up here, in fact all of Jonathan Watson's other ventures into doing other people)

― ailsa, Saturday, 24 February 2007 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

God, I can't stand those animated bits on Screen Wipe. They always seem like padding to me.

I've never warmed to Family Guy either. I don't mind it, it's just a bit too puerile. It's like The Simpsons for Adam Sandler fans.

― DavidM, Saturday, 24 February 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

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― acrobat, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

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― acrobat, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

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― DavidM, Sunday, 25 February 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

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