I also don't think Skyler's eventual complicity in Walt's actions undermines my point. xp again
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)
just saying if I made a mistake at work and then overheard 2 coworkers discussing how they'd kill me if I messed up again I might decide to take out some astronauts too
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)
haha fair enough
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)
lol
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, HAL was no asshole.
So, hey, were those money barrels the same size/color as the barrels Walt used to melt people in? Lotta barrels in this show, most I've maybe seen in something since "Jaws."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
I blame HAL's programmers myself - they're the assholes
― "lol meth dear john" call (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)
the BB writers are clearly into FPS games, probably played a lot of Half Life 2
― Nhex, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)
I guess the ultimate argument against Team Walt would be: what has he (or anyone else) gained from all of this? I guess you could argue he's $11M richer at the moment than he was a year and change ago, but what can he really do with that money at this point (and how much longer do we really expect that cash to be in his possession)? And whose life that he's touched (including his own) isn't in ruins compared with where they were pre-Heisenberg? Pro-Walt folks need to read and reread the Shelley poem until they get whassup here.
― Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31400000/Half-Life-2-Walter-White-Edition-breaking-bad-31422211-1800-2560.jpg
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)
They've alluded to the fact that they literally had more money than they could spend, that no amount of amateur laundering would ever free that cash up. It was sort of a revelation in every sense when we saw how much Walt had accumulated - this ep is the first time a dollar amount was assigned to the pile, right? Anyway, it's just underscoring his greed and hubris. A million dollars would have changed their life forever. But to prove he was the best Walt needed to have the most.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:31 (twelve years ago)
The question is, why are the Nazis still cooking, let alone cooking for a middle (wo)man, when they now have $70 million in cash? Uncle Jack seems an oddly reasonable psychopath; you'd think he'd retire to Idaho or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
(After recently having watched The Thing for the umbillionth time, it dawned on me that a reasonable argument could be made that the titular Thing is in a position similar to that of HAL re: its otherness occluding the fact that it isn't the villain of the piece and that it's mostly just concerned with self-preservation.)
― Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
the nazis aren't still cooking watch the show
― conrad, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
I never bought that "we can't count it" nonsense, walt would've started explaining excitedly how they could sort it into denominations and weigh it tout suite after skyferreira showed him the storage unit
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
Todd and shackled Jesse were about to cook. For whom?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
everyone im sure there are criminals who have retired after getting $70m (tho keep in mind thats split like seven ways, obvs not evenly) but think of all of those who were interested in getting more than $70m and building their empires etc, its totally reasonable and realistic that the aryans want more money and glory and power, especially considering they have the same or possibly better setup in which walt made that $70m, in a year they could have $300m who knows keep going why not they are criminals thats what they do
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:39 (twelve years ago)
Todd wants to win Lydia's heart by giving her a nice big batch of 95% pure blue meth, obvs.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:40 (twelve years ago)
― conrad, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:37 PM (39 seconds ago)
otm, you know todd is blasting this in the warehouse while his meth slave whips up a batch of blue stuff to lydia's standards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)
Why did Avon Barksdale stay in the game after the first episode? He already had a sweet ride.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)
plus do you know how fast $70MM can go in the stock market it's a jungle out there
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)
u have to pay extra for racist tattys
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:44 (twelve years ago)
i imagine if you're a aryan militia crime guy given the option to do what you want with your life it's not implausible you'd just keep criming cuz it's fun and really what else is there.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
re: the money, I'm kind of confused how Walt made $80mn.
Near the end of Gus's deal he was at $3mn give or take, lost a bunch of it. Then he starts the new cooking venture and it looked like each cook was netting him $500k. Seems like quite a leap to $80mn in the period we don't see him cook.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
imagine lydia was expanding their operation the whole time, bigger cooks bigger shipments more $$
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
gambling
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
6 months of cooking every day @ $500K a pop will get you within spitting distance of $80MM
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
slavic types are crazy for the blue stuff, remember.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:50 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol that too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
I don't think they could cook daily. More like 1-2 per week.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
yeah was wondering abt that, also i dont think we really know how long that opperation lasted
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)
The government should use sales of those $10k bands to track drug sales.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0gk2KJeho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)
Near the end of Gus's deal he was at $3mn give or take
yeah but that's when he was an employee though right? now he's making everything Gus was making and then some.
6 months of cooking every day @ $500K a pop
and yeah I think this is basically what that "Crystal Blue Persuasion" montage at the end of last season showed
― dmr, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:56 (twelve years ago)
So Todd was helping cook every day for six months and he's still making garbage? What a meth dummy.
― brio, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
you mean meth damon
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
I don't know if it was six months but they definitely fast-forwarded through a lot of Czech shipments in that scene
― dmr, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)
So Lydia is just the middleman? I assume she's paying the Nazis some sort of cut, plus the Europeans, plus ... jeez, that's a lot of money.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)
lydia is prob making more than anyone
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)
Lydia's house was v unhappy hipster
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)
I assume she's paying the Nazis some sort of cut, plus the Europeans
the Nazis weren't cut in until she needed them to kill Declan, before that they were just hired on a one-time prison killing job
the Europeans were making their money by selling the meth
― dmr, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
Lydia's house is very weird if its supposed to be in Houston since it seemed to be in the hills? it's flat for 100 miles in every direction in houston!
― ryan, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
so rich she could build her own hill
― dmr, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)
yeah Nazis weren't involved at all, they were connected to Todd through the extermination front-business
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)
Given what we know of these Nazis, it seems unlikely they are not involved at all. Like, they've clearly been watching the situation via their man Todd.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
todd got fired for starting a fire tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
Walt is an asshole, Macbeth is an asshole, Dexter is an asshole, Khan is an asshole, Alex DeLarge is an asshole, Hans Landa is an asshole, Jack Torrance is an asshole, 90% of the white people in Django Unchained are assholes, General Zod is an asshole, HAL 9000 is an asshole, Biff is an asshole, The Joker is an asshole.
forget biff, how did "the white people in django unchained" get on this list
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)
yknow Todd's escalated from being a junior employee in a petty thieving business pretty quickly.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
what you werent rooting for the wites in django
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
They were anti heroes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
also i just realized i never knew alex's last name in clockwork orange
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)