itt blogs instruct you how to be a man

thank you

everyone please follow mh's example there

it's easy

ok

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/18/18361/original/700.jpg?7441

btw elon musk is a FIERCE GENTLEMAN according to the website

is that dude caek in training

gr80 there is definitely something ~new age guruish~life coachy~charlatans~ about this FIERCE business, please advise

for ex, some of the content is hosted here
http://www.loveandfreedomproject.com/

oh my god

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that is a really easy thread to stay away from. sounds boring. does anyone even swing naked on a wrecking ball?

lmao this fierce men shit

wait i meant to post that on the clusterfuck thread. pretend that i did.

i forgot where i was for a minute...

They better give me some of the joys I'm going to have as a fierce gentleman now if they think I'm giving up "PMO"

Fierce gentleman, post-PMO-free challenge:
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.13338580.7027/sticker,375x360.png

i forgot where i was for a minute...

― scott seward, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:47 PM (3 minutes ago)

^^take notes, mordy

I'm revitalizing our TED thread to talk about one of the dudes linked from the fierce gentleman primer

lol, reviving, that is

Shampoo the thread

it's an interesting problem. I think if "honoring women" is tainted by patriarchy (and it surely is) then we also have to ask if, say, "don't be an asshole" is tainted in some sense as well. I mean, isn't that how things like patriarchy (or capital, or whatever) really work? don't they constrain not only norms but also opposition to those norms? and isn't that the big problem face by left/critical theory? can different terms be more or less "patriarchal" when patriarchy is more or less the totalizing hegemonic field in which those words obtain their signification? can we talk in "degrees" and is it useful to do so? just thinkin...

*thinks*

does thechive.com teach how to be a man? starting to think it might be a secret manliness tutorial

there is a "no fap" reddit iirc

i think mordy is also right that "patriarchy" as it is often slung around the internet is tautological. based on classical (and probably now rather out of date) understandings of patriarchy, anything you can say is already patriarchal before you even say it.

to my mind, this doesn't invalidate such critiques (quite the contrary!), but it does constrain their presumed authority and objectivity. so you can describe anything as patriarchal, but you can equally describe it in some other way that excludes patriarchy. you're accountable to what you're leaving out in either case.

well i mean ryan it depends how you define patriarchy i guess? like is it a totalizing gestalt or a specific constellation of stuff.

well i'm sure that discussion has its uses, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who have a well-defined meaning for the complicated term that is patriarchy, and they use in discussion with other people who have an adequately similar understanding of it, and therefore i dunno wtf mordy is on about.

http://i.imgur.com/9nm7liD.gif

like is it a totalizing gestalt or a specific constellation of stuff.

yeah obviously this is important! that's sorta what im trying to get at: how/when you draw that distinction--then again as Merdeyeux says maybe it has nothing to do with this thread.

there is a "no fap" reddit iirc

― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:14 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i actually wonder how this ties in to the whole men's movement

there is a "no fap" reddit iirc

― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:14 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i actually wonder how this ties in to the whole men's movement

― 乒乓, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:01 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark

but really such an exploration of this connection would be merely http://i.imgur.com/9nm7liD.gif

an unquestionable meaning so, ahhhhhh

so you can describe anything as patriarchal mauve, but you can equally describe it in some other way that excludes patriarchy mauve. you're accountable to what you're leaving out in either case.

well i'm sure that discussion has its uses, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who have a well-defined meaning for the complicated term that is patriarchy mauve, and they use in discussion with other people who have an adequately similar understanding of it, and therefore i dunno wtf mordy bob ross is on about.

...

so you can describe anything as patriarchal delicious, but you can equally describe it in some other way that excludes patriarchy deliciousness. you're accountable to what you're leaving out in either case.

well i'm sure that discussion has its uses, but on the other hand there are a lot of people who have a well-defined meaning for the complicated term that is patriarchy delicious, and they use in discussion with other people who have an adequately similar understanding of it, and therefore i dunno wtf mordy alton brown is on about.

useful gif

So re: patriarchy and explanatory lift, Mordy you're saying the discussion would be more interesting if people unpacked 'patriarchy' more, rather than just saying the word? Specifically, around the internet?

Sort of agree

mordy is saying 'patriarchy' has no referent because it does not exist. he's just beating around the bush in this regard.

i'm pretty sure the "no fap" internet phenomenon is a not-so-sneaky ways for guys to talk about jerking off to other guys

http://i.imgur.com/9nm7liD.gif

http://pickuplinesx.com/signs-that-a-girl-like-you/ What kind of overlap do you think there is between PUA and the mentally ill? This 'signs that' essay seems a bit more of a 'logorrhea/pressured speech' thing than a 'english isn't my first language thing'. Got directed to that while looking for Breaking Bad cast list by the way, whish shows that meth is a gateway drug for...whatever that kid is trying to do.

dowd

Of course, maybe it's a markov generator, and therefore a brilliant piece of conceptual art.

velko? You just gave me the fear by saying my nomme de nonsense.

And we made a football of his rowdeydowdow
Threw it in the tide for to rock and to row
And bade it a tedious returning

Ah, I see. My folk music knowledge tends towards Scottish provincialism I'm afraid. And my username is, of course, randomly chosen because I was watching Harvey when I created this account. Used to post under my full name, mind, which was an act of monumental stupidity.

By Scots I mean 'all sounded the same' 'How do you feel about Ireland? That place - that's just across the sea'. Dexys is about as Irish as my tastes run. But give me some Deacon Blue or some Proclaimers. When does the opposition start to melt?

dowd is a fairly "common" Irish surame no? With or w/o the O'

It is at that. My first and last names are also of Irish origin in real life. But that's because all my ancestors seems to have huddle in Kintyre - and you can hit Ireland with a skipping stone from there.

Is there a celtic folk thread? Anyway, my roots are more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKvB3g3HEPQ than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3iB68EKUo given my family mostly took the King's shilling. Does this stuff try to teach you how to be a man, do you think? Never worked a damn on me. I did learn, however, to never agree to DJ at a fundraiser for a Celtic Supporters Club unless you're sure no-one minds that you're a Dundee fan whose attitude to nationalism is to say the workers have no country. Also, saying I'll put the rebel songs comp on the turntable but you'll have to put the needles down yourself is not a good compromise.

That’s the worst line you can say, you will not expect her to say, “Yea, cause you are the bomb.”