Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

makes sense if you think he bought the machine AFTER cooking meth

xxp I think it's maybe easy for us to forget that for all the carnage Walt left behind him while getting out of one disaster after another, from his perspective he was essentially doing just fine with his overall plan - he had piles and piles of money and a family that was more or less intact. Hank's death isn't just a really big thing on top of the already huge pile of awful things, it's the point where the runaway train finally derails.

I know a couple of people who still have answering machines. It's cheaper than paying for voice mail.

I could see this being some easy way to save $2 per month for the White household back when they weren't millionaires.

reasons walt would go back (may include some combination of these)

1) save his family
2) saves jesse
3) stops his blue meth recipe from being distributed

combo of those 3 seems quite likely

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 03:43 (13 hours ago) Bookmark

Hate to tell you man but.... Combo's dead

Combo's mom gets her revenge

combos always get their revenge

Combo returns from the dead: ZOMBO

why do they still have answering machines?

They're fans of Wait Wait Don't Tell Me and are hoping that Carl Kasell might one day record their greeting.

Walt Walt Don't Tell Me

I've been thinking about "Ozymandias", and one thing I don't really get is, why didn't the Nazis just kill Walt after they dug up the money? If they want to cook more meth, they have Jesse, so Walt is a total loose end. They just killed Walt's brother-in-law, and he was clearly quite upset, so can the Nazis really be 100% sure he won't go to the cops and implicate them on the murder of two DEA agents? Uncle Jack says that Todd respects Walt, so I guess it's supposed to be a case of Honour Among Crooks, but on the other hand that honour didn't stop them from killing Hank against Walt's wishes, from not killing Jesse even though Walt asked them to, and from stealing 80 million of Walt's money.

Uncle Jack seems like a smart guy, so would he really risk them loosing the 80 million and going to jail because of Todd's "respect"? Anyway, since they decided let Walt live, giving him the barrel of money was actually a smart move, because now he has a reason to keep quiet about the whole affair. If they left Walt with nothing, he might feel he has nothing to loose, so he could go and talk to the cops.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:23 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thought this was a really great little moment, showed why jack is the boss and undercut the tv concept of criminality as just killing everyone and taking everything, like it was obvs a mistake in this particular situation to let walt live, but the decision to keep todd happy and give walt the money is generally a successful leadership type habit, respecting relationships and all, especially since todd is family and his crew seems to have a lot of family in it

i too know someone who has an answering machine fwiw, some people are prob just habituated to call screening is how i break it down

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Also, it isn't as if Walt is just some milquetoast civilian who's likely to run off crying to the cops. He's a fellow criminal, and the Nazis have plenty of leverage on him.

If they want to cook more meth, they have Jesse

how could they be sure that Jesse can cook as well as Walt? Sure he was Walt's partner, but so was Todd and he only got 70 some percent purity. Better to keep the master chef alive just in case he's needed.

@rianjohnson 5m
I didn't read the final 2 bb episodes. So now I can relax and go back to NOT RELAXING AT ALL with everyone else.

I hate to be the guy who relates to a murderous neo-nazi, but Jack seems like a pretty believable character.

ZOMBOS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5eU_07eSI

how could they be sure that Jesse can cook as well as Walt? Sure he was Walt's partner, but so was Todd and he only got 70 some percent purity. Better to keep the master chef alive just in case he's needed.

he's got a good track record. he managed to produce 97% purity in a lab in mexico.

he cooked by himself for gus, too.

i mean how do the nazis know that?

they watch breaking bad

Todd probably knows that. Or at least knows that Jesse knows better than he does. He know's he took Jesse's place. Knows Jesse worked with Walt.

todd knows, but he probably wouldn't tell Jack, "You can kill Walt if you have to because this other guy who punched me can cook just as well."

they he's heisenberg's longtime partner, i guess, and if he's no better than todd... it's not a big deal to get rid of him.

they know, i mean

they might even fear Walt is immortal. the last thing you want is a guy who cannot be killed pissed at you for trying to kill him.

anyone else notice that Jack did the same finger snap in front of Walt after shooting Hank that he did when Walt was spacing out whilst figuring out the prison murders?

not that i think there's anything to it....

I don't know if this theory was advanced upthread (or how much it really matters), but is it possible that the Nazis' plan all along was to kidnap Jesse rather than kill him? It makes sense inasmuch as they want someone who can show Todd the meth ropes and Walt has been pretty adamantly unwilling to go back down that road.

seems like Jesse the Meth Slave is more of a Todd solo project

with Frank Frazetta album cover art

Big Head Todd and the Meth Slaves

Tyra shows up in the next episode and Todd gets distracted

There's upside for the Nazis of letting Walt go - better to have Heisenberg on the run, being hunted by the DEA. Points anyone looking into blue meth away from them.

do the nazis get high on their own supply? Jesse might be able to kill them if so, maybe? more obvious answer is "walt comes back with rocket launcher to kill nazis" but I'm just thinkin

Jesse completely ruined Walt - from Walt's POV he would have been out free with his family intact if Jesse hadn't betrayed him - so Walt saving Jesse seems out of the question imho

"There's upside for the Nazis of letting Walt go - better to have Heisenberg on the run, being hunted by the DEA. Points anyone looking into blue meth away from them."

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Jack is clever enough to see angles like that in live situations, don't forget the whacking of 10 guys in different prisons within a 2 minute window caper that both Hank and Kuby attributed to Heisenberg was his incredible organisational brilliance. I reckon his act of charity to Walter was a clever criminal move rather than an appeasing his nephew move or honour amongst thieves move.

he may have to save Jesse if he wants to kill nazis - sometimes there's collateral redemption when you're killing speed nazis

guys what if Walt returns because he finds out that Walt Jr. is hooked on blue crystal

we've probably already said that, I guess

Guess we'll never see Walt sample his own product, like I once hoped

guys what if Walt returns because he finds out that Walt Jr. is hooked on blue crystal

With all due respect, this one's right up there with the "what if his new identity is Hal Lambert with a son named Malcolm" theory.

i too know someone who has an answering machine fwiw, some people are prob just habituated to call screening is how i break it down

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:54 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now that you mention it, it is kinda crazy that answering machines have this whole feature of being able to listen while someone leaves a message and decide whether to pick up and nobody who makes smartphones has thought to let people do that. it'd be hugely popular!

That's because there's this thing on smartphones called Caller ID.

I've complained before about the answering machine, how it picks up so fast, and the fact that there isn't 6 seconds between the rings.

I also realize it's a television show.

while i don't think i have the commitment to do it myself, i'd love to see someone map out the evolution of the the white family's phone bills, and sketch out which characters call which phone

shhh!!

dude has two cellphones and a landline! pretty sure skylar has a cell too. then saul shows up with HIS desk full of phones.

would also like to know if jesse ever changed his message

wasn't any respect due, pp

ran across this in the comments on one of the innumerable reviews of this episode and it seems kinda good actually:

My guess is Jesse makes his escape using the phosphine gas trick from Season 1 while cooking. We were already teased last week with Jack refusing to wear a mask in the cook room.

i too know someone who has an answering machine fwiw, some people are prob just habituated to call screening is how i break it down

― lag∞n, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:54 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now that you mention it, it is kinda crazy that answering machines have this whole feature of being able to listen while someone leaves a message and decide whether to pick up and nobody who makes smartphones has thought to let people do that. it'd be hugely popular!

― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:48 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's because there's this thing on smartphones called Caller ID.

― pplains, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:49 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a really good idea imho, caller id serves roughly the same purpose but its really not the same