Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

the only reason i wouldn't mind seeing jesse come after walt's fam is because otherwise jesse and walt jr will never have had a scene together (iirc) and always thought that could've been amazing - too late now tho i guess

think walt will go after nazis just to get money back but end up teaming up reluctantly with jesse in the process. expecting some real gung-ho vengeance from jesse on nazis and todd somehow tho (but maybe a hollow victory), if not also to a lesser extent (not for want of trying) on walt.

Jesse's not into murdering people, can't really picture him going after Walt's family

didn't think skyler was great here either.

what the... tough crowd

There is no way he's coming back to "save Jesse". He's the reason why Jesse needed to be saved, he's not going to suddenly get a change of heart after 9 months just because it turns out he wasn't killed 8 months and 28 days earlier. It's some threat to Skyler/WaltJr/Holly/Marie that's forcing him to bring out the big guns.

jesse wouldn't kill em, just use the threat to flush out walt

idk, having him killed or even tortured and killed in short order is a lot different than nine months of meth slavery and abuse

but yeah, pretty unlikely

Did Walt get one twelfth

Of 80 million?

he got one seventh

didn't that say he got 11 mil... it's a little less than a seventh because if it was it would have meant

...there was 77 million

there were seven barrels he got one of the barrels

he got one barrel full of money

anyway. I foresee a Walt plays video poker scene. "Welp at least I still have 5mil for my family" 3 hours later "Welp at least I still have 1mil for Walt jr and holly's educations" 1 hour later "ima take this last 100k and buy a gun"

Think everyone was guesstimating the amount of money involved.

didn't that say he got 11 mil... it's a little less than a seventh because if it was it would have meant

...there was 77 million

give wins the 77 million

this was so good

my only Internet Breaking Bad Discussion contribution here is just to say that it is unconscionable to roll your eyes & call the last few episodes predictable/predicted when internet users have dedicated themselves to methodically indexing every conceivable outcome as if they are mapping the digits of pi

maybe it'll be some Superman 2 shit where the Nazis take over the town the Whites live in and the mayor goes on television screaming "HEISENBERG, CAN YOU HEAR ME???? WE NEED YOU!!!!"

schlump otm

ya fwiw this was not my intention w that comment, i just thought it was fun that it was all in the thread if you knew which pieces to pick

my only Internet Breaking Bad Discussion contribution here is just to say that it is unconscionable to roll your eyes & call the last few episodes predictable/predicted when internet users have dedicated themselves to methodically indexing every conceivable outcome as if they are mapping the digits of pi

― @twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Monday, September 16, 2013 8:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is why i dont even read the speculation. i just wanna ~be taken for a ride~

my only Internet Breaking Bad Discussion contribution here is just to say that it is unconscionable to roll your eyes & call the last few episodes predictable/predicted when internet users have dedicated themselves to methodically indexing every conceivable outcome as if they are mapping the digits of pi

I don't think anyone is eyerolling. I thought it was a great episode, but it definitely stood out as the one time that the internet predictions got anything right. There were no major curveballs I don't think, apart from the phone call. For a big climactic episode, it was remarkably free of those big "oh shit, I never thought of that" moments that BB is great at.

spray paint in living room actually bat signal

I mean just in the last few episodes, I don't think anybody predicted walt making a video to pin everything on hank, or jesse and hank luring walt to the money with a staged photo of a buried money barrel. But this episode kind of went down the list of all of the chekov's guns that were left hanging out there from the jane revelation to bringing holly out of retirement just to get kidnapped (pretty sure people have been predicting a holly kidnapping for the past few seasons).

i was thinking that that last ep couldnt have existed in all its fury w/o the five seasons that came before it, like if you tried to do something like that after one season there wouldnt be enough backstory and itd seem ridicouls and overblown

one of the triumphs of the show is getting us to sign up for watching an episode like that

http://i.imgur.com/D3yklQ1.png

To me the most unexpected thing from this last episode was Walt keeping a lot of money. One would have presumed it would be all or nothing.

i wld watch a show with schraderbot

Jesse's parents are gonna be hella surprised when they open the paper and find out their estranged son was part of a major drug ring and iced hella bad guys.

I can't think of any other show where tying up all of the loose ends and speculation like they did is just a buildup to two more episodes of who knows what! Hank and the DEA are basically out of the picture in any meaningful way. All of the secrets are out in the open (jane, walt jr, buried money). They're not going to go back to baby in peril again so that's done. After the knife scene I don't think there's any way that Walt is going to kill Skyler as a lot of people were speculating. We know how/why/when walt changes his identity and goes into hiding. All we're left with is Jesse, Walt, a huge fucking gun and a ricin cigarette. Plus Marie, Lydia, Nazis, Madrigal, and Charlie Rose. And I guess we might see a little more of Saul and Huell?

Jesse's parents are gonna be hella surprised when they open the paper and find out their estranged son was part of a major drug ring and iced hella bad guys.

You don't think they got the hint when they couldn't sell the house because it was filled with meth supplies, and then Jesse bought it with straight cash?

christ almighty that episode

it's taken me until the final 8 to truly love this show

Skylar and Walt Jr. aren't problems for the Nazis, Jesse's confession on tape at Hank & Marie's home is.

Assuming Hank & Maries home isn't the site for nonstop wakes & memorials, I'm guessing Nazis (using Andrea and Brock) force Jesse to come along for a home-invasion while Marie's out, looking for the tape / SD card.

They tear the place apart, Marie and some consoling DEA agents arrive back, and things get complicated.

...

The only thing I can fault this show for is pacing - season 2 and most of season 5 till the last few have dragged a bit, and now I wish the show had a bit more time to spend with the characters now that the masks are off.

reasons walt would go back (may include some combination of these)

1) save his family
2) saves jesse
3) stops his blue meth recipe from being distributed

combo of those 3 seems quite likely

my only Internet Breaking Bad Discussion contribution here is just to say that it is unconscionable to roll your eyes & call the last few episodes predictable/predicted when internet users have dedicated themselves to methodically indexing every conceivable outcome as if they are mapping the digits of pi

― @twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Monday, September 16, 2013 8:08 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

disagree. BB episode titles/flashforwards prior to ozymandias suggested this was the episode where shit got super ugly. the next episode title suggests the comedown/buildup to the finale based on what the future shots have hinted at. i mean honestly, at the end of To'hajiilee, you've got 3 episodes to justify why walt would leave/return/buy a big gun. it had to go south this episode. sure, who/when dying happens is speculation but what's been shown kinda cramps whatever hypothetical narratives people have.

it's taken me until the final 8 to truly love this show

Me too. After Season 2 I was only watching half-heartedly and wouldn't have bothered finishing it except for the OMG OMG OMGs happening itt and elsewhere when 5a started transpiring

my only Internet Breaking Bad Discussion contribution here is just to say that it is unconscionable to roll your eyes & call the last few episodes predictable/predicted when internet users have dedicated themselves to methodically indexing every conceivable outcome as if they are mapping the digits of

The only place I post is here and I stand over most of my posts. So help me god.

He's the reason why Jesse needed to be saved, he's not going to suddenly get a change of heart after 9 months just because it turns out he wasn't killed 8 months and 28 days earlier.

I dunno, I can sorta see this happening. When Walt ratted Jesse to the Nazis, he was still in a shock over Hank's death, and wanted to externalize the guilt he felt for it to some other person. And Jesse was the obvious choice, since Hank was there because Jesse co-operated with him. But after the shit that went down with his family, and after months of lonely contemplation, I can see Walt finally acknowledging that all the bad stuff that's happened was actually his own fault. The "unfinished business" he talked about in this episode is probably getting revenge on the Nazis and getting his money back, but if/when he learns about Jesse's fate, I can see him trying to free Jesse too.

Walt ain't got much time to live, and he's burdened with terrible guilt, so I'd buy him trying to save Jesse as a final attempt to redeem himself. Also, the idea of Jesse and Walt having a perverted father/son relationship is one of the major themes of BB, so I think the writers still want to do something with that before the show is over.

I've been thinking about "Ozymandias", and one thing I don't really get is, why didn't the Nazis just kill Walt after they dug up the money? If they want to cook more meth, they have Jesse, so Walt is a total loose end. They just killed Walt's brother-in-law, and he was clearly quite upset, so can the Nazis really be 100% sure he won't go to the cops and implicate them on the murder of two DEA agents? Uncle Jack says that Todd respects Walt, so I guess it's supposed to be a case of Honour Among Crooks, but on the other hand that honour didn't stop them from killing Hank against Walt's wishes, from not killing Jesse even though Walt asked them to, and from stealing 80 million of Walt's money.

Uncle Jack seems like a smart guy, so would he really risk them loosing the 80 million and going to jail because of Todd's "respect"? Anyway, since they decided let Walt live, giving him the barrel of money was actually a smart move, because now he has a reason to keep quiet about the whole affair. If they left Walt with nothing, he might feel he has nothing to loose, so he could go and talk to the cops.

i hope it's a montage of people saying heisenberg on news shows ending with joel mchale making a jesse eisenberg joke on the soup

Looooool

My wife was working late Sunday night so I waited for her and didn't watch this episode til 4am, I couldn't get to sleep for like 90 minutes after the episode.

one thing I don't really get is, why didn't the Nazis just kill Walt after they dug up the money?

he's the main character and there's still two episodes to go

Well doh, but the writers could've at least tried to come up with some good explanation why he's still alive.

Walt is a valued business associate, why kill him?

Didn't you read my post above? They don't need him as business associate anymore, because they have his money and they have Jesse. And besides Jesse, he's the only person who can implicate them on the killing of two cops, which should plenty enough reason to shoot him too.

i think we can all now be sure that the last scene will be todd sitting in a diner. enter lydia, dressed to kill... todd looks around the room and "don't stop believin" plays as it fades to black.

todd looks up to walt and talks jack into it, and jack says hes in a good mood... obviously its a mistake but people make mistakes

i mean... it's a mistake, but is walt going to rat them up? not a chance. maybe jack has seen enough to know this.