Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

I wonder how much Heisenberg we're going to see from this point on, if any. It seems that, to some extent, the whole Heisenberg persona rested on and was fueled by a crumbling foundation of lies (the most essential of which was the lie Walt told himself that this has all been for the good of his family). The framing device of this episode seemed to present the first lie that set the Heisenberg nightmare machine in motion and the final lie which brought it to a grinding halt. Walt has regained his humanity and seen through his own bullshit at the exact point when doing so is going to cause him the most pain. Now he's just a guy who has to deal with the fallout of his decisions.

damn it people, the house didn't look that destroyed, it just looked abandoned and it seemed that kids had been breaking in and using it as a hangout

walt's motivations from here on out are kind of a mystery to me - basically will it be revenge or redemption

seitz's recap of this is p good

Would people be upset if he gets his moment of redemption?

I think I'm basically still rooting for Walt at this point but I've gone back and forth through this series.

I also think Gilligan's banging on about the whole "Mr Chips to Scarface" thing is misdirection on his part.

i hope walt does a bunch of badarse shit and kills all the nazis and jesse and him hug

and you guys were right about the Jane thing! *eats hat*

ends with Jesse calling him "dad"
xp

he'll get his redemption im sure but i doubt he'll get out of it alive

still waiting for jesse's ultimate BITCH

Haha, me too.

I'm tired of Jesse fucking up, Jesse losing out, Jesse getting saved by Walt. I assumed at some point he'd come out on top but I'm done assuming, after my confidant "Hank doesn't die" posts.

At this point, I don't care at all what happens to Walt, but I do hope that he has an opportunity to fix as much of his damage as possible. I think he (or some part of him) realizes he's damned and beyond redemption but that he has an opportunity to derail some of the evil wheels he's set in motion. I wager we'll get the duel satisfaction of seeing some things put right and seeing Walt get some form of comeuppance.

I'm also willing to bet that the remaining protagonists ultimately make it out alive and relatively okay and that the antagonists are like solid gone man.

do you think Jesse will kill Todd?

epic Zeitz post -- length, that is.

*Seitz

I really love how politely sociopathic Todd is

Breaking Bad Death Pool Poll - Season 5 - Episode 15 (Sept 22 2013)

and you guys were right about the Jane thing! *eats hat*

my big problem with bringing back jane was that I assumed its only potential value would be "yet more motivation for jesse to attack walt," as jesse attacking walt was major plot-motivator at the moment. i never could have guessed that jesse would be helpless an episode later, and that it would be used by walt as a knife-twisting move, the motivation for which being either "walt fucking hates jesse" or "walt wants jesse to hate him" or both.

This show is amazing.

the Nazis have good reason for trying to dispose of Sky-Ra and Marie, so that could be another thing behind the return + the destroyed house.

― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Monday, September 16, 2013 11:26 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya this seems like the most likely impetus for walts return, particularly as driven by lydias fastidiousness for tying up loose ends whoever said that upthread

damn it people, the house didn't look that destroyed, it just looked abandoned and it seemed that kids had been breaking in and using it as a hangout

― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Monday, September 16, 2013 11:27 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its not abandoned or destroyed its a crime scene w a big ass fence around it

i keep thinking about how dean norris played hank's death - imo he managed to get both defiance and a regret in those stares

not sure why i put an "a" before regret

yeah I loved hank in those final moments

hes real good

went out rolling his eyes at walt as always

nor-dog owns, glad hank got to go out with a cool line at least

yeah i love that he got a cool line without having to be a cartoon badass, that while he accepted his fate he wasn't, like, happy about it

i've been watching x-files on netflix and was pleasantly surprised by him stomping through the pus bubble episode as a marshal

sorry for your loss was

lol nice name

look on ye mighty and SB

Something that bugged me at the beginning of the desert scene: how the fuck did Walt get his glasses back on?

hah i thought that too

gonna rewatch, wish me luck.

A bullet ricocheted against Walt's glasses as they fell, propelling them back onto his face. I claim my No-Prize.

hader was pretty good on talking bad. the rest of the celeb fans have been annoying as fuck.

No one can be annoying as Chris Hardwick

can we just agree that teens have probably been chilling in the house along with skating in the pool regardless of why the house is empty

i don't know if I'd want to watch Talking Bad even if they didn't put Low Interest In between

ahh its not bad. its nice to see the cast and gilligan taking about the show.

I've been listening to the Breaking Bad podcast - which does have a few moments of genuine insight from Gilligan and the writers, but the backslapping and shout-outs on the level of "the clean-up crew guys we have are just amazing - they were out there raking the desert between every take" make it a bit of a slog... never seen Talking Bad though.

yeah but Gilligan is a genuine give-props-where-props-are-due guy, I don't find that part annnoying -- that's his personality

I will watch the Hader Talking Bad episode

I hate-watched Talking Dead so I know what I'm in for ---it's only ever as good as the guests, otherwise it's just an annoying circle-jerk

i don't watch commentary tracks between episodes a show, i wait until i've seen the whole season, if ever

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I know, it's sweet that he's so into his team - just a lot of other things I'd rather hear him talk about...

I'm more blown away by Hank's death on a narrative/thematic level the more I think about it. I spent the last week devising a million different scenarios for Walt to save the day (much as I'm sure Walt was doing in the back seat of the car between episodes). The viewer, like Walt, grew so convinced of his ability to weasel out of any tight spot that it became almost inconceivable that things might not go his way. When he finally encounters a situation that he can't maneuver around with brains/luck/money/force, he and we are slapped in the face by the true limit of his power and everything unravels. I'm sure there was a lot of discussion in the writer's room about whose death was going to be the one to underscore Walt's ultimate impotence. As bleak as it was, it could've been a lot worse (and the knife fight was a bazillion times more tense given that it took place during the same episode).

in case anyone missed it (tuomas), Hank died mid-episode

I was half-expecting Walt to drive up and waltz in when Marie was strong-arming Sky-ra ... if only he hadn't run outta gas he might have pulled it off (I assume that's what the point of that barrel-rolling scene was, to give Marie time to work her conversion scheme)

i love how self-aware the staging and direction of the knife scene was...they knew how keyed we are to expect a tragic accident - at one point i swear they just hold the thing up so walt jr could just leap on to it - but it winds up serving as a misdirect for when walt takes holly instead

Was convinced Holly was going to croak before the end of the episode.