Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

not japestering!

don't want to pick holes as that - and the rest of the series - has been some incredible 'golden age of tv' stuff but i did wince a little at the scene of him rolling the barrel with that olde timey song in the background. i mean i liked it as a wtf but it jarred slightly with what just happened

haha ok, aaron paul really did look 4 (or however many years since s1) years younger though. ballsy as hell to open with such a sweet cutesy flashback after the devastation the last ep ended on

rolling the barrel and buying the truck scenes seemed very coen brothers and i didn't care for that part

maybe it was shot for the first season and never used idk, i was thinking jesse looked a lil more ragged than in s1 tho

i expect the next ep will focus more on jesse, he was barely in this one. total end of seat mouth open nooooo when it looked like he was going to be killed just a minute after hank. man what a fucking show, almost feels like an honour to be watching this 'live'

ive always felt breaking bad was pretty coenesque

oh the barrel roll was some great sierra madre stuff. if they had more time they could have done a great bottle episode with just walt and the barrel.

another nice touch - the way Walt yelled at Walt Jr when he wouldn't start packing. Obviously it wasn't out of animosity, more just anxiety due to the situation crumbling, but he's never really yelled like that at his son, and you could kind of read in Walt Jr's reaction that he was stunned by his very different, intense demeanor, and that he was seeing the other side of his father in person for the first time.

xxxpost (GODDAMMIT someone just posted this exact thing)

that sensation when we're watching marie look already-wiped-out and *then* she hears walt on the phone say 'you'll never see hank again'. top 10 most affecting tv moments ever

btw p sure you could piece together this entire ep via predictions made upthread

yeah, this episode was good and pretty brutal, but maybe one of the most predictable yet. it was definitely the tying up the loose threads episode.

nice to see that walt finally learned to roll a barrel though.

someone needs to make a flow chart of lives that Walt has directly or indirectly ruined since S1.

Man, what a crazy episode of Low Winter Sun this was

haha

ballsy as hell to open with such a sweet cutesy flashback after the devastation the last ep ended on

come on, it was pretty predictable that they would do some kind of slow open before getting back to the standoff.

yeah, this episode was good and pretty brutal, but maybe one of the most predictable yet. it was definitely the tying up the loose threads episode.

Yeah, I think what makes the last two episodes exciting is that the shoes we've been waiting to drop have dropped w/ Hank and Gomie dying, Walt finding out about his dad, etc. Much more wide open now.

I have a bad feeling Skyler will bite it and Walt Jr will wind up in foster care.

some of the s1 RV cook scene was old footage and some was new, right? I think the aaron paul stuff was all old? and the new stuff was just walt on the phone off in the distance.

someone's committing suicide in the next ep. I feel it.

wtf was Jesse doing in the background while Walt was on the phone? martial arts? couldn't stop LOLing at him in the background the whole time.

22 minutes into the episode they were still showing credits!

Xpost Walt's underpants made it 'ballsy'

come on, it was pretty predictable that they would do some kind of slow open before getting back to the standoff.

yeah you're right. i guess i wasn't thinking in tv-making terms, more in a waiting-a-all-day-to-see-what-happened finger-drumming mode, expecting it to slam right back with the action. weird little bit at the end of that where walt then the van did a cheap 'disappear fade' effect, balked a bit at that

yeah the fade was weird

thanks to this thread I kept giggling imagining Walt saying "White power" and shooting the Nazis.

how far gone am I that the most tense thing for me in this episode was knowing that Skyler was parked behind Walt during the confrontation at home?

todd was pretty fascinating this episode. seemed to wipe a tear watching walt in agony after seeing hank die, then kindof saving jesse but then promising to kill him in due time. then wordlessly taking jesse from the pit and shackling him up in the cook room. can't work out if he was bullshitting walt and wants to somehow let jesse live, or if he's just milking every last bit of use from him before sending out to seed (would suit the kid-killing version of todd ive got in my mind)

felt like todd and jack both knew right away that they were gonna keep jesse as a meth slave

who was running the cash register at A1A when all of them went into the back room

the kung fu is gonna come into play

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:58 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

called it

felt like todd and jack both knew right away that they were gonna keep jesse as a meth slave

― lag∞n, Monday, September 16, 2013 12:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably, hell it was predicted by quite a few people itt

Todd is a psychopath of his word, i imagine they keep jessie alive until todd feels he can cook competently enough to please his secret crush on his own

Marie's klepto tendencies are gonna be off the chain now

the kung fu is gonna come into play

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:58 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

called it

― Matt Armstrong

lol

Todd = John Hinckley

RIP Gomey

someone needs to make a flow chart of lives that Walt has directly or indirectly ruined since S1.

The rolling Breaking Bad death toll as of this episode is 259.

167 of those were the plane accident, and supposedly only 23 were at the behest of Walter White.

So you guys think the cops will buy that phone conversation between Walt and Skyler?

i think so

"apparently a DEA agent named Hank Schrader is dead. No need to investigate - I think we can take that on good faith."

"I mean, basically the rules for any TV drama are that supporting and minor characters can die in the beginning or middle of the episode, but main character deaths always happen at the end. So, when this episode didn't end with Hank's death, I knew he's gonna survive the shootout, because the next one isn't gonna start with him dying.

(xxpost)

― Tuomas, Tuesday, September 10, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

So much for this theory eh.

The question is whether or not to indict skyler as an accomplice and, with marie as the sole surviving material witness that can immediately implicate her, the assumption is that at least walt doesn't drag her down with him

I guess when walt is rolling the barrel through the desert, he passes his pair of pants that were abandoned (? I don't really remember what happened to them) in the first episode.

At 21:31 if you grabbed the ASAP rip

xpost - doesn't drag her down? what i was trying to get at earlier is, if skyler continues going along with walt's latest story and lies about her degree of involvement, how is that not dragging her down, to have to carry around more of walt's lies and repeat them to everyone, just going along with his latest scheme? how would that not be completely poisonous to the remaining close relationships she has left (walt jr, marie)?

it would, absolutely! I'm agreeing with you! Unfortunately, in keeping with walt's "smartest guy in the room" schtick, the best possible option is for her to hate herself and sell her soul by letting walt dictate the terms of the end of their relationship

she doesn't have to tell a huge lie, just explain that she felt threatened for her life for the entire time / was coerced

and that's what walt set her up to do! but the earlier conversations with marie don't exactly suggest that's the case so she has to get marie on her side... hard thing to do as far as walt knows given that hank's dead. so it's a stretch on his part to try to cut her loose from him sinking
and i definitely don't think this "redeems" walt. i'm suggesting it's a sign of the greatness of the actors' skill that ALL those emotions play through: the attempt at a sort of redemption, the understanding of what's being done, the hate, the confusion, the self-loathing are there to be read.
to be clear, i wouldn't suggest walt knows what he was doing when he took holly but the mama mama mama moment seems to have forced him into analytical heisenberg mode
bonus point for the shot of the firemen playing chess with the king trapped in the corner, struggling for stalemate in the endgame

agggh I feel like a wet rag, goddamn that shit was EXCRUCIATING

also I'd like to float a theory about Walt telling Jesse about Jane. I didn't read it as Walt twisting the knife. I read it as Walt making sure that Jesse would have every reason to tell the Nazi's everything and NOT get himself killed by refusing to talk, knowing that they will have Jesse cook for them since Walt's obv not going to stick around

I know it sounds corny but it feels like a Walt thing to do, w/r/t Jesse. Even with Jesse talking to Hank, even after everything they've been through. I don't honestly believe that Walt would ever completely write Jesse off, even when he's completely pissed at him and betrayed.

Just my cuddlestein theory nbd

well here's my problem with that: when nazi prime asks if they're good to go, walt looks jessie in the eye and nods yes
the only reason he's alive is cause todd is a devious motherfucker.
i was literally shouting NO at that jane moment. fucking brutal.

yeah... jesse really got sent straight to hell in this ep