New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

as far as xiaomi goes, they also sell those things relatively cheaply i think?

those things are like half the price of the 5c

yup

I think maybe the perceived benefits of Apple products that its fans have in the US (the idea that Apple products just "work better" and are "easier to use" in an intangible sort of way not attributable to particular features) maybe hasn't quite caught on yet in China? Or at least the idea that you should pay a lot more for a product like that, when you can't say on paper why it's better? I'm pretty much talking out of my ass here.

its my understanding that iphones are pretty popular there amongst those who can afford them

Lack of a subsidized up front cell phone contract makes chinese ppl a lot more price sensitive

I read some article about a cultural shift toward recognition of quality design rather than acting like knockoffs are acceptable but idk, there are a lot of intellectual property laws that people don't seem to give a shit about

Knockoffs aren't 'acceptable' theyre just cheaper

i accept knockoffs

knock it off

this sites sneakers are supposed to be p hq http://www.newgoodseller.net/sneakers-c-1022.html

Probably made by a 24 hr or midnight factory

ya

http://youtu.be/ujrXyuIMdsg

dont judge me

idk, I mean "acceptable" in that someone thinks buying a phone that's meant to resemble an iphone is seen as ok, rather than buying a name brand that is a cheaper product. like in the US, you'd end up with a HTC phone that has a relatively distinct design, not something that had a fake apple logo and a design that looks a lot like the real one

You wouldn't end up with that in the is because it'd be illegal to sell a device with a fake apple logo on it

People ended up with those Samsung jobs that apple sued them over for look and feel

And why isn't it ok to be seen with an Hp tablet or w/e in the us. Are the police gonna arrest you

very true!

I guess I mean that there aren't intellectual property laws enforced that'd even stop these things from existing and there's a market. There's more pressure, internal and external, to kind of force such enforcement, now, from what I've read.

it's fine to be, but generally a HP tablet is going to have a HP logo, run software released by that company and designed for that tablet?

I mean, compare a Samsung phone that takes design cues to something like this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/11/article-2024878-0D64111F00000578-355_634x581.jpg

We don't have that in the us not because it's culturally unacceptable to do so but because there are laws to prevent it

If you could make money selling a hackintosh and not get owned by apple in doing so there's a market for that here in the us. Look at all those hackintosh dudes

and laws are a codification of what? our corporate structure, idea of intellectual property as something can be owned, is that not cultural?

I think we're on the same page here, I'm just not excluding the history of corporations and government control of copyright from "culture"

Lmao, gtfo man

Go to law school if you wanna talk about laws and culture

We don't have that in the us not because it's culturally unacceptable to do so but because there are laws to prevent it

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Americans are perfectly fine with provoking a fight with someone and then shooting them in cold blood. They passed a stand your ground law, it must be part of their culture man

well, yeah, some part of american culture values perceived personal security over the lives of others?

Lmao. I'm not going down this road with you. I'm out

I'm not trying to say that people are running around in other countries with fewer intellectual property laws saying "this says iPhone so it's the same thing as an iPhone", just saying that there are definitely cultural differences that lead to knockoffs being more commonplace or worth buying

idk, I know plenty of people in the US who don't care about brands and buy weird off-brand radios and Walgreens or whatever, it's as much a personal preference as anything

How about this: stop making blanket statements about other countries culture unless you have a basis for doing so that isn't I read about it on the internet once

how about realizing that I'm not making a blanket statement about the entire culture?

new york's love of knockoff purses kind of belies the idea that they're culturally unamerican

Then what the hell are you doing

or the fact I work for a company that sells things in China, doesn't sell the newest tier of things because I work in an industry that's leveraging intellectual property as one of the things they sell, and there was a way to authenticate the company's product as legitimate by texting a code on the bag and your region in, because people were counterfeiting the bag and putting an inferior product in it?

NO FIGHTING ON THE FUCKING APPLE THREAD

hey guys come on we're here to talk about phones

hah, thanks markers

I see where what I was going on about seems sweeping, but I don't intend to say that people in any country have some sort of brand loyalty or idea about product quality linked to brands, but at an enforcement level, there are different things going on

imo, let people release shit that looks the same and let the market sort it out, but the fact is that people (everywhere) don't necessarily understand what they're getting

whole thing reminds me of stories I hear from the state attorney general's consumer protection division where people are buying off-brand hearing aids through the mail and thinking they're going to be as good as ones molded to your ear made by professionals

i get so angry when i see counterfeit merchandise. culturally i cannot accept it.

i think it's a british thing.

guh, I made a big mistake in rolling my comments of off Hurting's question. People who prize whatever type of goods, branded or whatever, exist in all countries, probably in equal numbers. Legal controls make the availability of them different.

going to go wash down my foot sandwich now

I delight in getting knockoffs of expensive brands and love showing them off to people. I used to call my favorite watch a Movendi.

who amongst us has not worn the occasional pair of adibas

One of my favorite memories from my honeymoon was being at a street vendor's stall who was displaying many Monvendi watches and my wife and I figuring "they're $15, how much of a ripoff can they be?" and haggling with the seller when a cruise ship tourist came over, looked at the watches and prices and shouted "oh my god, are these REAL???" The seller, my wife and I all looked at each other and burst into laughter, through which the seller unconvincingly attempted to reassure dude that yes, these were real Movado watches being sold from a vendor's stall with no security for $15 a watch.

not much risk there, if it fails you're a few minutes late, I'd buy two

I think one of the fascinating things about that phenomenon is that we still care whether the obvious knockoff says the brand name or not