was there not some thing of brock remembering a "bad man" or some shit? or of walt having paid him a visit? some kind of thing like this but not enough to incriminate walt. i feel like they made you think it was walt with the ricin but then it wasn't ricin poisoning and you thought it wasn't again until the last reveal. i'd have to rewatch to be sure.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)
i think just logically it was walt
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
some googling says:
At the 2013 Comic-Con Vince Gilligan explained exactly how he and the writers imagined Walt got the poison to Brock, and it wasn’t, as I had thought, through Saul. Instead they pictured Walt as the “Evil Juice Box Man” going into Brock’s school and giving him a juice box that had juice from the poison berries. And if you’ll look closely at episode 413 “Face Off” (thanks to Greg below for pointing this out), when Walt busts into Saul’s office, Francesca is shredding school schedules. It’s a big spreadsheet of classes and times but there are notes on the side that seem to be one student’s personal schedule, most likely Brock’s. So, kudos to the writers on including that little detail, and again to Greg for noticing that what’s was being shredded. End of update.
don't know wtf greg is but thanks to him.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
I preferred Evil Juice Box Man's electric stuff to be honest.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)
Gilligan says. “The writers would always tell the story of the Evil Juice Box Man. The way we worked it out on our timeline is he had just enough time to do it, but it would’ve been very tricky indeed.” They figured he crushed the poison up, stuck it in a juice box, and got into Brock’s school. “That’s our inner story, the writers and I, for how it happened. It would’ve been very tricky timing, but he was a motivated individual at that point.”
I don't think Brock recognises Walt, he just senses something off about him, but they're obviously keeping it ambiguous
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)
greg is the guy who wrote heisenberg on the white family breakfast nook wall
― One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)
it says Evil Juice Box Man on the other side of the wall but there wasn't time to show it.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
have to keep something for the dvd
had to be done
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
The writers would always tell the story of the Evil Juice Box Man. The way we worked it out on our timeline is he had just enough time to do it, but it would’ve been very tricky indeed.” They figured he crushed the poison up, stuck it in a juice box, and got into Brock’s school.
tbh this explanation sounds pretty ludicrous
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:24 (twelve years ago)
the fact that they never explained how this poisoning happened has always kinda irritated me
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)
but maybe they just didn't show it cuz they know how unrealistic it is
walt just gave the kid some candy kids love candy its not that hard
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)
i bet i could go out and poison a kid right now no problem
brb
that makes more sense than Walt sneaking onto school grounds
xp
lol
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)
due to brock's lack of a father figure he had never been told not to take candy from strangers.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:35 (twelve years ago)
walt is not a stranger
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)
otoh he is a kind of creepy old guy
i think the loose ends are dramatically pretty powerful, though; there is speculation over whether Walt's hubris will be his undoing, & the debate over whether each untied strand is a macguffin or a Chekhovian pistol is part of the kinda wider universe of the show. there is that big reveal, in Alexander Payne's Election, of how Matthew Broderick wronged the janitor, & all of these strands exist doubly as things that are convincingly left unexplained, or else potential nooses later on, whether some fault in Walt's method poisoning Brock sowed the seeds of his downfall
― @twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)
Now I'm thinking that Walt and Jessie get away while Hank and Gomie die. The DEA find out about Walt from Marie and Jesse's tape, but they're more interested in taking down the Nazi gang that just killed two of their agents than in prosecuting Heisenberg, since doing so will tarnish Hank's fallen hero image. So Walt agrees to testify and goes into witness protection, but 6 months later Walt comes back to NM either to retrieve his money or to stop the Nazis from killing Jesse or Marie.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)
ow I'm thinking that Walt and Jessie get away while Hank and Gomie die
this is kinda what I'm guessing too
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)
not sure about the rest of that tho
ya me too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
didn't say i was right, just connecting dots
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)
Definitely seems plausible.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)
or to stop the Nazis from killing Jesse or Marie.
This makes no sense to me
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
― polyphonic, Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok the Nazis want to kill Walt, who is in hiding or Witness Protection with Sklarboro and kids, so they draw him out by kidnapping or threatening someone they can get at--Jesse or Marie.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:06 (twelve years ago)
guys we already know he came back for the cig
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
walt smokes ricin cig, shoots himself in the face w giant gun 50 times, roll credits
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
show's totally going to end with someone smoking the ricin cig to that "light 'em up, up, up" Fall Out Boy jam. Calling it.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
Nazis kidnap Hank 'n' Gomie, take them to new concentration camp for cops in NM desert.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
Read something I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning, or if it's a spoiler, so SPOILER MAYBE
but I'm not sure that the ricin cig is going to be a big deal. Gilligan suggested that they wanted the season to start with that scene in the house but didn't have a good enough reason to get him to come back to the house. Just sightseeing didn't seem important enough, so they came up with the idea that he had a reason to go back. Not saying they didn't end up using that in some plot developments yet to come, but since everyone's making a big deal over how the season started with him recovering the sig, it's worth noting the scene wasn't originally written that way.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)
Hank and Gomie die, Jesse and Walt wander the desert, the stumble on US Army training site for troops about to go into Syria. Jesse: "Where are we?" Walt turns to Jesse: "America."
Ends with Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner." Flash forward to the future. Cylons become sentient, cook meth for human slaves.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
would say this is prob a horrible idea but odenkirk is like my fav actor so i give it my tacit approval http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-spin-moving-forward-627406
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
Gus Fring, Jr is going to come and avenge his dad
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)
oh that link is old xp but anyway looks like we are all soon going to be CALLING SAUL
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)
will love it if the next episode features everyone else dead and Walt and Jesse just wandering around in the desert a la Ruben and Ed
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)
inspired to seek out the meaning of "Low Winter Sun" by that Saul article and found this
http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/amcs-low-winter-sun-open-to-interpretation-1200568478/
I would have assumed "REM Song Title Generator"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)
walt and jesse live hank and gomie die nazis make walt and jesse meth cook slaveswalt and jesse forced to work together to escape nazis using sciencewalt and jesse kill some nazis; jesse vs. walt battle resumesmarie tells DEA everythingDEA + Nazis out to get walt and jesseWalt and Jesse out to get each other marie tells walt jr about walt being heisenbergwalt rejected by skyler and walt jr walt uses saul's new identity guy to go into hiding in New Hampshirewalt returns to save family or jesse or both from two imminent threats - one he needs a big gun for (Nazis), one he needs ricin for (Lydia?)
― brio, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)
still think jesse is going to do something decisive in the gun battle
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
yeah - agree, there does have to be some twist, they can't just pick up and let the scene play out exactly as it looks like it's going to - and jesse is the only one in a position to do anything
― brio, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
he even started doing it at the end of the ep
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
walt and jesse livehank and gomie die
Read this to the tune of "Ball of Confusion."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
Except you're not even safe on an Indian Reservation
― da croupier, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
run run run but you sure can't hide
― brio, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)
also thought there was going to be a competition of résumés
― @twitizensforlemonlipbalm (schlump), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)
i kind of think if hank or gomie were gonna get shot then it would've been as soon as they opened fire when they were out in the open. just cos that would've been more impactful and it's stupid otherwise.jesse to save the day
― cerealbar, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)
Walt might do something. Maybe he'll hold a gun to his own head and tell them to stop? Or something?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)
Walt got guns to his headI think he goin down
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)