next episode is where all the crazy Illuminati shit happens
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
OK will admit a "supercar, bitch!" would be go a long way to making this plot development not a bummer
― brio, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)
I think todd is an awesome character, but he also seems ridiculously implausible to me. how did he grow up around all of these nazi meth dudes but end up with the polite, well-mannered demeanor of a mormon farmboy?
― wk, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)
sometimes people just don't match their familys or his mom couldve been a nice lady or etc
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)
i imagine he had a terrifying, super strict upbringing
― Nhex, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
also some sociopaths are just good at masking their true natures beneath a veneer of politeness
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sf0PjlQkkKk/UWo7msZ5A7I/AAAAAAAAWnQ/tWjEYxA7MDY/s320/lumpy-rutherford5_joes.jpg
― brio, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)
I watched the episode, and I have to say I don't think Hank'll die. It's true that his talk with Marie had all the elements of the type "everything's going to be great, honey" speech movies and TV love to do when they want to make someone's death more tragic, and on top of that there was the shot of the "brains" in the garbage can (couldn't really be any more symbolic than that!), so obviously I thought Hank was gonna die... But then the episode ended before he did, and I don't think it'll happen in the next episode either. If they were gonna kill Hank, it would've been a dramatic moment right at the end of the episode, no way are they gonna start the next one with "oh, and btw, Hank dies". So I guess the speech and the brains were there just to fuck with audience expectations.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)
Exactly what I said.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:38 (twelve years ago)
I mean, basically the rules for any TV drama are that supporting and minor characters can die in the beginning or middle of the episode, but main character deaths always happen at the end. So, when this episode didn't end with Hank's death, I knew he's gonna survive the shootout, because the next one isn't gonna start with him dying.
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― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)
^ this
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)
the next one isn't gonna start with him dying.
It would be structurally unorthodox, but I'm definitely not ruling it out.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)
cold open is hank's head exploding scanners style
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)
this show does not adhere to a lot of conventional TV drama rules, so
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, but it does adhere to that.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)
well then won't u feel foolish when next week's episode begins with Hank taking bullets to the head and falling backwards while Terror Squad's "Lean Back" plays in the background
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)
lol
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)
Christopher Moltisanti died about 5 minutes into that one Sopranos episode
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― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:10 (twelve years ago)
yeah, that one that was a couple of episodes before the season finale...
― brio, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
posts that end with an unpunctuated "so" are the goddamn plague, no offense Shakey
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
is that so
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)
yeah from the sopranos to this shows so many 'conventions' related to with death have been thrown out. I wouldn't base anything on that. please join us here in 2013, Tuomas.
Im concerned Hank wont die but im basing off his not being shot yet and his stance behind the car. Id love it if they went for the melon shot BOOM just when we thought he might survive followed by walt and jesse careening around all 'OH SHIT HES DEAD!! OH SHIT SHIT' for the rest of the episode, obv working hard to make things even worse for themselves.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)
so many extra letters in that. sorry. split focus of work.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
Walt should just give Jesse to the Nazis and make him cook - problem solved!
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:26 (twelve years ago)
Yeah I just watched that last scene again and Hank is behind the car with Walt in it. Gomeie's in front of it and pretty exposed but I doubt either of them have got more bullets than the white power dudes.
The other thing that I didn't notice was Jesse reaching to open the door of the car he was in. And the gun Walt dropped is lying somewhere on the ground.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)
Wait, why do the nazis have so many bullets? They were just supposed to kill Jesse; how is it they're armed for a prolonged firefight?
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:04 (twelve years ago)
End of Days, bunker times, etc. But why were there two car loads of them? Only one car was stationed on Brock-watch.
Anyone else notice that these episodes barely feel like neat episodes? It's like they're all one long episode with random breaks in it. I mean, this one just ends. The last few have all seemed like snippets of the same long day or so.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:05 (twelve years ago)
But why were there two car loads of them?
cause walt told them that there were at least 3 guys coming for him
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:08 (twelve years ago)
Walt had told them from the site that there was a car with 3 guys in it then he backpeddled telling them not to come. Maybe they took the whole crew because they didnt know for sure?
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)
ahh tracer
Marie's going to show up wearing a bandana, body armor, and armed to the gills. this was a 'drill' they ran, and "I got him" is secret code for "I got the guy I was after but please show up 15 minutes later in case I'm in the middle of a celebration and people come to shoot me"
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:11 (twelve years ago)
i watched this ep again and when walt calls off the nazis on the phone it has exactly the same kind of forced, no-info quality that you'd expect someone with a gun pointed at their head to have
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:12 (twelve years ago)
"them slavic types are crazy for the blue stuff!
that's what i'm told, anyway"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)
i liked how jack is a keen enough student of human nature to note that despite walt having just requested a hit on jesse he considers him family, so jack sweetens his offer of cook-for-hit by saying he'll "do it right". nice. it'll be artisanal. a real quality rub-out.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:16 (twelve years ago)
think Gomez gets offed and Hank gets some serious, life threatening injury that puts him in a coma (like silvio in sopranos) or some sort of crippling wound that keeps him from speaking the truth (like hector salamanca).
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:22 (twelve years ago)
it'll be artisanal. a real quality rub-out.
ew
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:24 (twelve years ago)
not THAT kind of rub-out! sheesh.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
Maybe they took the whole crew because they didnt know for sure?
they probably thought it would be a laugh
― Number None, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)
Hank and Gomie saved by two random dudes walking across the crossfire with a plate-glass window
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
Jesse was edging toward the steering wheel of Walt's 300, I assume he throws it in reverse and plays some role in interrupting the shootout before everyone gets dead.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)
wait are Jesse and Walt in the same car? for some reason I thought they were in different cars
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
would be pretty odd for Walt to not notice Jesse in the passenger seat of his car as he took the cell phone call from him.
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)
lol duh I mean at the end after Walt was cuffed
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)
thought they were in diff cars then too
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)
yeah, Jesse was in Walt's car, Walt in Hank's. Jesse started opening the door but I think that was the last we saw of him? Also the car was perpendicular to Jack & Co. so doing a bit of hit and run would be difficult I think.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:44 (twelve years ago)
The big gun Walt has in his trunk ... is it one of those big Nazi guns?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:14 (twelve years ago)
Also: Nazis sorta libertarian in this, and the New Hampshire state motto is ... live free or die!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:15 (twelve years ago)
hank hit, downgomie hit, downgomie probably dead, hank passed outwalt and jesse flee into desertnazis find hank's credentials, fleewalt and jesse get into it and walt lets it slip, clearly, that he watched Jane die
these are less my guesses than just a thought but in "Fly" (dir. Rian Johnson) White almost confesses to seeing Jane die and that's a loose end that isn't out there in the open yet, and it feels like everything coming out is the deal right now, and that's a huge one
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:17 (twelve years ago)
walt and jesse get into it
oh man I wish
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)
lol quit yr shipping
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:23 (twelve years ago)
Important sidebar: in this week's Breaking Bad insider podcast, Vince Gilligan refers to Todd as "OPIE HITLER"
i lol'd so hard
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)