Rolling US Economy Into The Shitbin Thread

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haha
mine was directed at ketcham fwiw

yes we live in a society of rampant consumerism, please make your point by whining that you can't find cocaine and get beat up in new york like back you could back in golden days of 92. waaaah waaah people have opened businesses in my neighborhood - burn down the system!

sleep, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

have you seen those Slope businesses tho? how many pet pedicurists does one nabe need?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread is a shitbin.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i feel confident i can help anyone find cocaine or get beat up - i live just a few short blocks from park slope

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

in all honesty i would wager that i could get in more fistfights and buy more coke in the UES and other neighborhoods filled with wall-streeters

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

and i can do those things without fetishizing a mythological version of the lives of the poor & oppressed!!!

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i hear financial types may have to cut back on their cocaine and fist fights - harsh times

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe they can make some money teaching people puerto-rican spanish?

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

ayyyeee maaami!

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

http://rexhamilton.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/wallstreet4601.jpg
vamanos!

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.russiablog.org/StockBroker-MosNews.jpg
quiero un fistfight!

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I know good Democrats don't click on Counterpunch, but that piece did contain the line "This is all romanticized drivel..."

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

(I got really depressed walking thru Washington Square the last couple weeks and realizing the NYU freshmen were born in 1990. Kids have known nothing but the worst ever in Hollywood movies, journalism, and Democrats.)

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_03/traderR1403_468x328.jpg

hola me llamo es cocaine!

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

how many pet pedicurists does one nabe need?

Ask Surmounter.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

morbius is right, park slope is lame.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

fight the real enemy

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

let me tell u i went to park slope last week and bought six cocaines and got in two fist fights and came back fluent in spanish

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

they have a five guys now...

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

so put that in your pipa and fumar it

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

more like cinco hombres

Mohammed Butt (max), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i like Park Slope

-- gabbneb

gabbneb, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

ocho sinkhole

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

this is all tom brady's fault

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2008-09/42526356-23122243.jpg

Mt. Rushmore, redone.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i like Park Slope

-- gabbneb

― gabbneb

glad-handing smiley-face ... idiot consumer ...

― gabbneb

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i recommend the la taqueria pablano burrito

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

no you should walk up a ways and go to calexico instead, it's better

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

calexico is nice too too but theyre not really the same type of place

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I get off the F train and get Uncle Moe's veggie burrito (w. wheat) once a week.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

rolling US economy into burritos

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i know but mmmm enchiladas amirite

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

yah exactly - ill eat the taqueria burritos and the calexico enchiladas

update prefs (ice crӕm), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope the great depression of 2008 means blue ribbon has to close, that place sucks!!!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

this guy has been OTM so far...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/622acc9e-8...nclick_check=1

The shadow banking system is unravelling

By Nouriel Roubini

Published: September 21 2008 17:57 | Last updated: September 21 2008 17:57

Last week saw the demise of the shadow banking system that has been created over the past 20 years. Because of a greater regulation of banks, most financial intermediation in the past two decades has grown within this shadow system whose members are broker-dealers, hedge funds, private equity groups, structured investment vehicles and conduits, money market funds and non-bank mortgage lenders.

Like banks, most members of this system borrow very short-term and in liquid ways, are more highly leveraged than banks (the exception being money market funds) and lend and invest into more illiquid and long-term instruments. Like banks, they carry the risk that an otherwise solvent but liquid institution may be subject to a self fulfilling and destructive run on its liquid liabilities.

But unlike banks, which are sheltered from the risk of a run – via deposit insurance and central banks’ lender-of-last-resort liquidity – most members of the shadow system did not have access to these firewalls that prevent runs.

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The next stage will be a run on thousands of highly leveraged hedge funds. After a brief lock-up period, investors in such funds can redeem their investments on a quarterly basis; thus a bank-like run on hedge funds is highly possible. Hundreds of smaller, younger funds that have taken excessive risks with high leverage and are poorly managed may collapse. A massive shake-out of the bloated hedge fund industry is likely in the next two years.

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European financial institutions are at risk of sharp losses because of the toxic US securitised products sold to them; the massive increase in leverage following aggressive risk-taking and domestic securitisation; a severe liquidity crunch exacerbated by a dollar shortage and a credit crunch; the bursting of domestic housing bubbles; household and corporate defaults in the recession; losses hidden by regulatory forbearance; the exposure of Swedish, Austrian and Italian banks to the Baltic states, Iceland and southern Europe where housing and credit bubbles financed in foreign currency are leading to hard landings.

Thus the financial crisis of the century will also envelop European financial institutions.

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry this is the right link to read the whole thing:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/622acc9e-87f1-11dd-b114-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I AM ROUBINI, THE ANGEL OF DEATH

"goole" (goole), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I know the name Roubini, but why? Did he make a massively right call on dotcoms or something?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

And here is your #1 on cnn Paul vs Paulson smackdown: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/paul.bailout/index.html?iref=topnews

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

one guy i talked to argued the blame should go @ greenspan's feet for lowering interest rates for such a long time in the early 00s

deej, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Greenspan was indeed deeply complicit in blowing the succession of bubbles that culminated in the housing bubble.

Aimless, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Greenspan's 2003 lowering of rates = DUD

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Roubini was derided in '06 for being so doom-and-gloom "negative," - "we have a subprime financial system, not a subprime mortgage market," - but most of what he's said has panned out. He was on Charlie Rose the other night, repeating that we're not facing a depression, but the worst recession since the GD

Vichitravirya_XI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece

deej, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Roubini has been like a sole voice of reason for years now. Peter Schiff has been more right than wrong over the last 6 or 7 years. Fred Harrison predicted this correct pretty much to the month almost 10 years ago? (and predicted the 91 recession in 82).

Its difficult not to have Greenspan right at the top of the list of culprits (plus the central bankers in every other western nation that followed his lead) but its arguable all they did was exacerbate the inevitable

Pecan Lake, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ "predicting" recessions 10 years in advance

circles, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at getting the dates correct pretty much to the month and providing detailed reasons why to back up your predictions

Pecan Lake, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

There'll be plenty books written on why this all happened. Many of them have been in print for a few years now

Pecan Lake, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm curious what the guy's reasons are! but the idea that someone has some superlative future predicting powers is some scifi bullshit.

circles, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link


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