Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

i dont see any way hank and gomie arent dead

― lag∞n, Monday, September 9, 2013 1:15 PM (3 minutes ago)

once the shooting stops if hank is wounded but alive walt could tell the nazis to spare him or no deal

what if this entire show is just a setup for walt to learn that money isn't everything

life lessons

final shot of show ends w/ an xray of walt's heart which has grown 3x in one day, doctors baffled in voiceover

once the shooting stops if hank is wounded but alive walt could tell the nazis to spare him or no deal

― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, September 9, 2013 1:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the ayrans cant leave hank alive otherwise they will goto jail

If Hank's not dead, that is some bullshit. Would have to be some super-fucking amazing but plausible explanation to forgive a character surviving a firing squad of machine guns... or Hank and Gomie have Coachella Tupac Hologram technology maybe.

Vest?

but in Breaking Bad world of ridiculous things happening and ppl surviving, Hank coming out alive would not surprise me at all

this episode is the first time i've sympathised with Walt for about 3 seasons. and that's mainly cos he's lying in the back of a car being shot at and his glasses have fallen off

I guess Hank could survive in BB-world - but it's better for him to be taken out drama-wise too - it leaves Jesse to settle the score with Walt on his own, outside the law.

hank eating it would definitely up the pathos, ie now walt gets away with it, jesse can go nuclear etc

Hank having a touching final phone call with Marie definitely made it seem like he was gonna be toast.

the ayrans cant leave hank alive otherwise they will goto jail

― lag∞n, Monday, September 9, 2013 1:27 PM (28 minutes ago)

they were pretty far away from each other and didn't exchange names iirc

Hank and Gomez both have to die for Walt to be off the hook. that would only leave Marie (lol) as the one left to convince the DEA about Walt

but DEA does have Huell who knows Hank and Gomez were running down Walt and Saul, Marie's got Jesse's confession on tape (I'm guessing Hank left it in the house), and she will be able to tell cops that Hank's last contact before his disappearance was a phone call saying he had arrested Walt.

Pretty likely Marie will tell Walt Jr his father killed Hank next episode too - or force Skyler to level with him.

they were pretty far away from each other and didn't exchange names iirc

― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, September 9, 2013 2:00 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jesse knows who they are, even if not it wouldnt be that hard for hank to put it all together and track them down

Marie, she's a lying klepto, who's gonna believe that purple broad

I got the impression that the DEA guy holding Huell had no idea what the heck was going on (which is why Hank told him not to talk to the guy)

If Hank actually left Walt's recording at the house, I'll be surprised, it seemed like they were just behind Walt as they were taping him - weirdly risky to wait at the house, since he could've been a day away

but DEA does have Huell

NHex otm DEA doesn't know about Huell, that was all bluffing

Pretty likely Marie will tell Walt Jr his father killed Hank next episode too - or force Skyler to level with him.

― brio, Monday, September 9, 2013 2:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea this could be interesting. hank sez 'i wont be home for awhile' or w/e thinking hes gonna be busy booking walt & explaining it. so if hes unreachable/dead she prob wont freak out right away but def will eventually and blame skyler if walts not present to blame

if hank dies marie will tell the dea and all of them will get their guns and kill walt, hence what looks like walt calling sauls guy and moving to new hampshire

how will Marie know Hank is dead tho

down the speculation rabbit hole again...

not coming home could be a clue

after this is all over someone should read the old threads and hand out awards for correct predictions

Hank gon' get barrelled

jesse knows who they are

Not sure he does. He knows one of them's called Todd.

I'm not a big speculation fan really but I'm always impressed how this thread churns away for a week between episode with everyone's ideas and predictions

ya loveable scamps

im guess that they have enough that w some police work it could all be put together, a lil query of the prison tattoo database here, some checking on phone records there etc

DEA does know who Lydia is sort of but she was what, investigated and cleared? or maybe they never thought she was involved at all, and only came across her because she worked at Madrigal.

while i'm trying to resist the urge to fanfic earnestly, I WILL predict a backlash if Walt dies/fails at the end - a good chunk of the "Best TV Show Ever!" crowd might be let down if the show turns out to be a really well-made "crime doesn't pay" fable.

those people would be wrong though

as much as i feel they're teasing us about whether hank will die, and as much as part of me feels walt is going to try to save him, i can't see how this "deal" would work. once hank is in a nazi-free zone he's not going to keep covering for this maniac, not least when gomie's death brings loads of heat on his job/actions.

hank has to die imo if walt is to go on, as we know he does. i mean, doesn't he?

gilligan often does talk about them deliberately writing themselves into a corner tho, maybe they can find a way.

are there any other examples of great dramas that have the consistent focus of BB? Plenty of shows have created a fascinating world but tend to wrap up initial issues and move on to new, eventually less satisfying ones (or totally flake out on that issue all together). But while BB has definitely opened up the world beyond the pilot dilemma ("Can Walt pull off being a drug dealer long enough to provide for the fam?") they've never lost sight of that central problem. Never seen Sopranos, Oz or The Shield among others but off the top of my head I can't think of a show that really worked as one long narrative.

i mean, i guess there's how i met your mother

i guess walt could save hank but also escape... end up on the run at the nazi meth lab.

Sons Of Anarchy kind of works that way, though they do go for long stretches where they'll stray

the only thing making me think hank could survive is that they've telegraphed so convincingly that there's no way out, this is like BB 101

yeah of course! it's what makes it so good. nice "got myself a new boat, it's called the live forever" moment with marie.

if you had to guess what would happen after the credits rolled, it would be jesse gets away, walt in hands of neo-nazis, hank and gomez dead, so I doubt that is what is going to happen

i hope the writers don't sacrifice gomez to prove the legitimacy of the battle, like anya on buffy

"Ahhh, the least valuable player has been hit! nooooo!"

or maybe they'll take out good will squinting

Ted Beneke will show up and defeat the nazis with his super embezzling powers.

no way, there's a whole lotta mileage to be had in the todd-lydia coffee mug saga

xp

Walt's ranted confession was a bit dumb, his anger and all not withstanding.

It IS weird that Todd would suddenly become a total shooting peon after taking out the kid in stone cold fashion

lydia's double clutch was perfect

Never seen Sopranos,

Sopranos is def one long narrative. so are the (much shittier) Lost and BSG

Sex and the City too

if gomie and hank disappear and their phones go dead, the DEA's going to probably talk to the guy hank just put in a DEA safehouse - even if the guy guarding him has no clue what's up and it was off the books.

also Marie's not going to cover anything up if Hank goes missing - she'll tell them everything she knows like she's been bugging Hank to do - the only thing keeping them quiet was Walt's fake-out confession hurting Hank's career which is kind of moot if he's dead

Can't see how the DEA isn't on the hunt for Walt and Jesse next episode, probably Lydia too.