Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

To what extent could he investigate Saul anyway? Lawyer/client confidentiality and all that.

tbf having dudes on your payroll who are driving around barrels of cash isn't really non-criminal

like, Saul keeps a level of plausible deniability but he has people on his payroll who are doing things that are not too legal

Theyve forgotten the cartel tape of jesse cooking but that certainly doesnt incriminate Walt

Oh yeah, also manslaughtering client's wive's ex lovers.

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Saul has commissioned illegal acts, but there's no evidence of his commissioning them

being a shady lawyer is so awesome

a criminal, attorney

still kinda my all-time favorite Jesse line

had to think about that one... remembered it and smiled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMQqh1ovlM

I wonder if Jesse said anything to Hank about Gale or not - seems like he would have if he was just purging everything he knew but Hank never made any offer of immunity or anything so he's pretty fucked if he did. Unless he's beyond caring.

if he confessed (and I think he did - hence Hank's "junkie murderer" comment), then the cops could totally hang the murder on him (after all, they have a body, a crime scene etc.) But Hank wants Walt, not Jesse.

Jesse in his bleary eyed silence in the last few episodes reminded me of Frodo staring at the ring, transfixed and hypnotized by evil. Don't think he would've held anything back from his confession for self-preservation.

There was definitely a suffering saint feeling in a number of the shots of him sitting still in front of the aquarium or whatever that was in his house, or while the cops were talking at him, and then of course turning his face up to heaven as he sees a better way.

I think it's setting up for Jesse to be the martyr who tries to sacrifice himself to bring down the devil.

That sounds horribly plausible. The way Jesse switches from full-on twitchy paranoia, walking towards Walt on that bench, to a relaxed, almost beatific grin on the phone once he has decided on his way to get him. It's like he sees a light at the end of the tunnel, a release from his living hell.

Hank would never go for a plan that hurts Walt Jr or Holly so I'm not sure what Jesse's plan really is but we shall see

I wouldn't put anything past Hank at this point really

he might go for a plan for kidnapping them I guess

My current pointless prognostication is that Jessie just outs Walt to the entire local community. "Hitting him where he lives" is removing the barriers between his false identity as "mister rogers with lung cancer" and drug kingpin. Maybe just posting a gazillion photos around town with "THIS MAN SELLS DRUGS", speaking with a local tv station about the car wash as a money-laundering operation. Hank can't do that without burden of proof but if Jessie really has cashed it in, I could see him deciding that would be the best way to go. It would also fit well with the flash-forwards of Walt being a neighborhood pariah and having HEISENBERG spray painted on his home. That would give skyler the legit out of divorce and taking the kids away from walt and even if it didn't see Walt put in jail, it would demolish his life.

that would ruin Hank too tho

Yeah, but i think they can find a way to make that part work.
i would suggest that if you wanna trust the context clues you have to extrapolate why the white home of the future is an empty husk with HEISENBERG scrawled on the wall. It's clearly been repossessed which suggests that the state/feds seize walter's (or skylers?) possessions. The HEISENBERG thing means that, at least on the street level, it leaks out that Walter is Scarface. And the "Hello Carol" grocery dropping means that the neighborhood is very much aware he's a druglord too. So the question is how do we get to all that in the next two or three episodes. Jessie revealing Mista White's double identity to the general public, maybe via a "MY TEACHER WAS MY DRUG DEALER" story in the local news seems like a reasonable way to get there.
honestly tho, second guessing a teevee show is a mug's game, dunno why i'm playing

forks and plasmon sounding SO on point here

It's clearly been repossessed which suggests that the state/feds seize walter's (or skylers?) possessions. The HEISENBERG thing means that, at least on the street level, it leaks out that Walter is Scarface. And the "Hello Carol" grocery dropping means that the neighborhood is very much aware he's a druglord too.

I don't agree with any of these conclusions tbh

I mean, those are all potential explanations but I'm not comfortable assuming those are the only, or even most likely, explanations

When are we going to get to 52-year old Walt, I wonder. Like, is that the last episode? Second to last?

Going public would also mean any time that Walt's family, whether it's his wife and kids or even their kids, attempted to use any money it'd be incredibly suspect. People would protest the hell of their car wash making it implausible that they'd have enough income to write off the laundered money. If they tried buying real estate elsewhere, someone would figure it out or leak it to the local press. They'd all have to get new identities and start over somewhere.

you guys have a very weird conception of how the media works, frankly

They have the Whitman book, which at the least is a circumstantial connection between Walt and Gale, who was a murdered meth cooker. Between that and Jesse, that's something. But not hard evidence, I guess.

think they already discounted the book - handwriting analysis not reliable etc.

Jesse and Hank should just go on the Perd Hapley Show and set things straight

think it was the opposite actually. they said the handwriting matched. still doesn't prove anything except Walt may have known Gale. (xp)

Which is still pretty bad, if the guy clearly knew a meth cook who was murdered in the midst of his meth cooking!

eh could probably write it off plausibly as an academic connection, if we want to go there.

yeah, chemists

used to go to poetry readings together etc

those all sound way more plausible than what actually happened

this story is so unbelievably convoluted and unlikely that it seems extreeeeemely unlikely that any reputable news source, local or otherwise, would pick it up based on "information" foisted on them by a random junkie

but what do I know, this show also worked an airplane crash into the narrative so

plus you know how much skaters pay attention to the news

I don't know... it's gotta be a big 3-episode-long Hank + Jesse vs. Walt arc like the other big season-ending showdowns with lots of double-crosses, fake-outs and poison.

I don't really see "Jesse gets interviewed on KRQE Local News and Walt is shunned by Carol and everyone boycotts the carwash!" as the big payoff we're all hoping for.

does jesse care if walt gets caught via the legal system? jesse could just be telling everyone he knows who heisenberg is & once word gets around, whatever happens, happens - i mean those people walt killed were local, they knew people

idk who is Jesse gonna tell? Badger/Skinny Pete? Randos on the street? He is not a trustworthy source. and while he may not care how Walt gets caught, Hank certainly does, and Hank isn't gonna go along with a cockamamie scheme that will expose him as well.

plus I mean everyone who knows there IS a Heisenberg already knows Jesse

i had the impression jesse knows plenty of people connected to the drug trade, badger/skinny pete are his friends so they're around more
but anybody who knows there's a heisenberg prob doesn't know that heisenberg poisoned andrea's kid & had all of mike's guys killed. and they all had families/friends/associates i assume so what happens if the word gets back to them that this person is heisenberg and that's who did this.

So the question is how do we get to all that in the next two or three episodes.

due to loads of killings and the jesse tape being found by the dea.

and they all had families/friends/associates i assume so what happens if the word gets back to them that this person is heisenberg and that's who did this.

this would require introducing a bunch of new characters to be set up as adversaries for Walt which, frankly, is not something any decent writer would do in the last 5 episodes of a series

the "end" as seen in the flash-forwards is quite far into the future anyway, relative to the latest episodes which are honing in on very short periods of time. i'm sure it will become a bit more macro again as it nears the finale.

i don't think there would be a need to introduce new characters. also i wasn't trying to start an argument, tbh

what if Mike sank into the water but was taken in by bog creatures who live at the bottom of the river and they nursed him back to health and he rises gigantic from the water in the last episode to exact his terrible revenge

this is my prediction anyway

*crosses fingers*

Wouldn't the feds have taken Walt's house apart? Including checking behind any switches/electrical outlets and discovered the ricin? I reckon he has already defeated Hank and needs the ricin for some outrageous, unexpected target. If the feds had Walt at this point all the internal drywalls would be ripped open, no stones unturned. Which is not the scene in that episode.