Thomas Pynchon

kinda less excited for this if it requires a trailer

trying to imagine what the trailer for any of his weightier novels would be like

nah that's silly, course i'm excited. but the excitement is tempered knowing that it's already being framed in simpler terms, reduced, prepared for easy consumption

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e88434d23970d-600wi

Pynchon making a "V" sign in the doorway of his Manhattan Beach, CA apartment, complete with (Porky?) Pig pinata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f40rk4ai4po

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Good band with great bass player. Sorry he's barely visible in video.

pause that at the 1:00 mark. pynchon's son is jandek!

oh wait no, that's the guitar player

xxp to my own post...anyone have any idea when the victory hand gesture was appropriated by anti-war people to become the peace sign? or are the two unrelated?

he's just advertising his debut novel

or misaligned bunny ears

yeah was going to mention the IV trailer.

or are the two unrelated?

I don't think it ever signified "victory" in the US, isn't that a britishes thing?

lol Crowley:

In 1942, Aleister Crowley, a British occultist, claimed to have invented the usage of a V-sign in February 1941 as a magical foil to the Nazis' use of the Swastika. He maintained that he passed this to friends at the BBC, and to the British Naval Intelligence Division through his connections in MI5, eventually gaining the approval of Winston Churchill. Crowley noted that his 1913 publication Magick featured a V-sign and a swastika on the same plate.

I'd love to read a good bio of Crowley...what a nut!

I recommend this one

a lot of books written about him have some agenda and/or axe to grind (which is totally understandable - dude left a trail of destruction that was pretty sizeable), this is one that was both well-written, well researched, and pretty even-handed in its approach

lol Andrew WK recommends!

“Aleister Crowley–what a man. I've read several Crowley biographies, and this one takes the prize for most enjoyable and intimate. Mr. Kaczynski has the personal understanding and experience necessary to paint an accurate portrait of Crowley, with all the exciting context in place. Mr. Kaczynski's passion for his subject makes for an informative and potentially life-changing read. Why wade on the shores of such a vast man, when you can dive in? I think Crowley himself would have welcomed such a loving penetration."
–Andrew W.K., musician

sorry for thread derail...

loving penetration, eh?

he was into that kind of thing

Hmm, Kaczynski? wonder if there's any relation to the guy who was framed for pynchon's bomb making.

Far Right: https://a2-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/31/ee964c367771422d897e6cb11b924aa5/600x600.jpg

sorry for thread derail...

not possible to derail a Pynchon thread tbf.

The Crying of Lot 77

this pynchon jr stalker stuff is a tad creepy, unless it can be shown beyond doubt that it's his very self in the trailer

it wasn't not his uncreepiness that irked his very self so much as the lack of his hypothetical uncreepiness not actively demonstrated to have been beyond the recognition of stalking a junior "self".
"Your shot, Crowley", he smirked.
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Ah, so we're zinging DFW now?

zing zong
tokin' on da bong
wearin' out ma flip flop
listen to the hip hop
sich vorstellen neue Lieder
rhymin' & stealin' w/ a bhagavad gita
me and my horsey & a paul mosquito

you're fucking atrocious at this

i find the hagiography around DFW creepier than any Pynchon stalking....

Wait, linking a picture publicly posted by a band on their MySpace page is creepy stalking...?

apparently

it's meant to be atrocious - it's pynchon

imago ✓

massaman gai ✓

http://themodernword.com/pynchon/The_Kenosha_Kid_text.pdf

reading all the books in order, up to Mason & Dixon...someone tell me not to be scared of it

Mason & Dixon is really fun! I think it's his most approachable bighuge book

i couldn't get through it and I've read gravity's rainbow twice.

there's a robot duck, what's not to love

i'm rereading it now & i think it's his best. it's definitely the funniest

Gonna second Mason & Dixon as being lot of fun. Though it may partly be the lowered expectation? Anyway, email from the publisher saying Bleeding Edge has been released and should be on the way.

m&d has, like, resolutions and shit. most of the balls that are up in the air are caught or left to actually drop in the viewer's sight. but it feels weird because structurally it's not really 'tighter' than g's r, even though the contract it has w/ the reader makes it feel like in some sense it ought to be.

the protagonists & frame narrative give it a greater sense of focus than GR, and it's less randomly allusive -- the jokey anachronisms aside everything is specific to its time & setting (eg the duino elegies i suppose are thematically relevant to GR, i haven't read them closely, but they've always seemed like a kinda undergrad-heavy thing to carry into a wwii story)

iago if you've made it through v. you will have no trouble whatsoever with m&d, it is way more fun

Thanks for the sage advice, everyone...yeah I loved V. and wanted to start GR all over again as soon as I finished it, so I guess it should be alright. Also, I use the online wikis for each book if there are a lot of references flying over my head and those are enormously helpful. Thanks again!

I recommend this one
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a lot of books written about him have some agenda and/or axe to grind (which is totally understandable - dude left a trail of destruction that was pretty sizeable), this is one that was both well-written, well researched, and pretty even-handed in its approach
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, September 4, 2013 5:07 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Never thanked you, Shakey...so thank you very much for the rec!

http://www.mclemee.com/id38.html

I believe it was finally confirmed that he did not write those Tinasky letters. They used to be available as a book though and it was often filed with Pynchon books, at least in the Bay Area

yea, this is p interesting nonetheless esp w/ the murder-suicide tie-in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hawkins_(writer)

weirder and more depressing than we thought :-(

“You one of those right wing nut outfits?” inquired the diplomatic Metzger.
Fallopian twinkled. “They accuse us of being paranoids.”
“They?” inquired Metzger, twinkling also.
“Us?” asked Oedipa.