The Irish

Due to the current "anti-meat fad", the government has broadcasted television advertisements to discourage meat consumption. In the north, the Ulster fry has been particularly cited as being a major source for a higher incidence of cardiac problems, quoted as being a "heart attack on a plate". All the ingredients are fried, although more recently the trend is to grill as many of the ingredients as possible. These advertisements however, do not explain the health and vigor of native Irish people while eating their traditional diets high in both fat and meat.[28]

what's the diff between an "ulster fry" and just a "fry"? i refuse to believe ni catholics aren't killing themselves with 2x rashers eggs sausages plus beans and chips/bread/tea on a daily basis.

jesus christ

what the fuck do you want? what do you think you're achieving here?

3000 DEAD man, DEAD.

LET IT GO

ps it's mainly farls and/or a fried soda slice, we have done this

yeah i remember lengthy discussion of regional breakfast variations

lolz

i don't recall this even tho every food topic is done to death on ilx. farls are more common now south of the border. they fry a slice of soda bread? intriguing.

xpost i don't remember the exact ulster fry diff being discussed, tho i remember a discussion along these lines.

it's slightly overblown tbh, mainly cos of religion

tho tbh, change the demographics of the country all you like, i can't see the muslim fry ever really taking off

RFI: The Traditional Irish Fry-Up

christ im hungry

do catholics in the north refrain from farls/fried slices of soda bread?

8 years ago. ffs.

They surely don't fry soda bread? Disgusting savages.

i've definitely had is as part of an ulster fry, tho maybe it was an admin error tbf

they saw you were an outsider.

yeah i had the roi plates on the car- we were just nipping through on a shortcut getting to donegal, i didn't see the harm. jesus, i was such a fool!

we were lucky to get out without our eggs broken

So, apparently British people don't understand the word "banjaxed"!

Banjaxed Britain

They all reflexively agreed with u and tutted that jaxed was very dangerous whatever it was

not only am i familiar with the word but i can tell you that Terry Wogan wrote a book of that title in the 70s

Yeah I'm familiar with the word also.

nobody in my office knew it. i mailed my entire editorial team cos i was going to use it in a headline. nobody had ever heard of it.

dictionary says it's american in origin.

Basement Banjaxed

I love that one of the references for "banjaxed" (here: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/banjaxed) is

Martin McGuinness was known to have confessed in October 1994 to the Irish Prime Minister: "We know the arms will have to be banjaxed.
TIMES, SUNDAY TIMES (2001)

banjaxing for peace

armalite and the banjax box

"will have to be banjaxed" is an odd way of putting it. In my experience things become banjaxed but you do not actively banjax them

OED says "Etymology unknown; perhaps originally Dublin slang". Going to try using it at work, maybe I can sneak something like this into a paper:

1968 Observer 29 Dec. 19/1 You completely banjax the whole psychological impact.

OED has lots of examples of transitive 'banjax', though it does seem odd to me:

1969 G. Lyall Venus with Pistol viii. 48 The man is a twit. I mean, he banjaxed that Zurich trip.
1972 New Yorker 28 Oct. 40/1 Ha-ha, so she ups and banjaxed the old man one night with a broken spade handle.
1976 U. Holden String Horses viii. 102 The dawn suicide the day before had made a lot of work and worry, had banjaxed things for a while.
1979 T. Wogan Banjaxed (1980) 78, I am out to banjax the bookies.

"will have to be banjaxed"

martin mcnulty

Not sure you could go a day in this British office without hearing something described as banjaxed. (Generally active and transitive in use but with a barely defined subject, e.g. "well that's banjaxed the computer system")

a thing can only be banjaxed

it cannot have been banjaxed

it is not banjaxed by anyone

it is now, as we stand, banjaxed, and that is all

I shall defer to your jaxment

im trying to come up with a suitably droll derivation using bean ui jaic or somesuch but tbh i've a dental appt coming up and am distracted by the likelihood of my mouth being beanjaicsed afterwards

the jax which will have been banned

bán jacks are a bad idea ime but for that to work the descriptor has to follow the noun iirc and it doesnt sound partic like ban so i mean

what does the OED give as earliest usage?

Actually it stems from the Urdu "Bahnn Gehecked" which refers to a large pottery cooking bowl or gourd....These gourds were not very resistant to heat and developed cracks at the base.
When the Pasthu women lifted these onto their shoulders the base frequently came away showering the carrier with hot liquid or stew.

By common usage then the term became a descriptor for an item which was faulty or unsafe.
For instance when someone would attempt to lift a full basket of cobras for the snake charmer someone might say .."Be carefull Parminder....that could be bahnn gehecked...

British soldiers in India brought the expression to these islands

boards.ie so caveat emptor

shit i made a sweet caveat emptor joke the last day and forget it now

From the OED 2nd ed.

Anglo-Ir. slang.

Earliest quotations:
‘F. O'Brien’ At Swim-two-Birds 240 Here is his black heart sitting there as large as life in the middle of the pulp of his banjaxed corpse. 1956 S. Beckett Waiting for Godot (rev. ed.) 79 Lucky might get going all of a sudden. Then we'd be banjaxed [1954: ballocksed]. 1959 D. O'Neill Life has no Price ix. 169, I had the right to leave him talk, I suppose, and banjax us altogether? 1968 Observer 29 Dec. 19/1 You completely banjax the whole psychological impact. 1969 G. Lyall Venus with Pistol viii. 48 The man is a twit. I mean, he banjaxed that Zurich trip. 1972 New Yorker 28 Oct. 40/1 Ha-ha, so she ups and banjaxed the old man one night with a broken spade handle. 1974 Nature 22 Nov. 334/1 My sense of enlightenment was somewhat tempered by the banjaxed mood in which I found myself. 1976 U. Holden String Horses viii. 102 The dawn suicide the day before had made a lot of work and worry, had banjaxed things for a while. 1979 T. Wogan Banjaxed (1980) 78, I am out to banjax the bookies.

is it one of a pair with bollixed now i wonder

the american dictionary merriam webster gives 1939, but boyle sez it in juno & the paycock and i suspect it's o'casey's coinage

yep suspect so xp

like podge & rodge?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banjoed on the uk tip

banjaxed and bollixed is beautiful and i am def gonna start using it

pyoor o'casey yeah