Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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Yeah come to think of it I have heard Hank call him that...rewatching from the start w/ my wife. I kinda hate Hank and want to see him fall on his tookus bad at this point.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:10 (twelve years ago)

Walt Jr. just seems like such a wimp. When he's not eating breakfast, he's constantly crying and whimpering. He should learn to chill like his sister.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)

the writers put Hank through a lot of humiliating/humanizing shit, which sort of obscures his racist/fascist alpha male tendencies.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)

Hey, he was just messing around with Gomie. They're bros.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)

But yeah, seriously, they knocked this insufferable back-slapping jackass clown down several pegs to get him where he is now.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)

schraderbrau

space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:04 (twelve years ago)

Schraderfreude

carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:08 (twelve years ago)

otm

space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:13 (twelve years ago)

fwiw just as an aside irl cops are commonly v callous re the safety of their informants, there was a good piece in the new yorker a while ago abt how so many people get murdered injured and otherwise abused in the service of locking their associates up

do you have a link to this please?

NI, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)

sry dateline, but:
http://insidedateline.nbcnews.com/_news/2009/06/19/4374379-making-informants-safety-a-priority-a-dateline-update?lite

space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 03:32 (twelve years ago)

here's the newyorker article, its horrifying http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/09/03/120903fa_fact_stillman?currentPage=all

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)

thanks!

space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 03:37 (twelve years ago)

Walter Jr.--Flynn--is the only person Walt can talk to, and with, in his treasured pre- and "post"-Heisenberg mode. Dad is gets refreshed and reassured by moments with his one relatively appreciative audience member, although Flynn's long been aware of and increasingly frustrated by some levels of bullshit.

dow, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 04:47 (twelve years ago)

Yeah that nyorker piece is damning

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 04:56 (twelve years ago)

Flynn hobbling off his crutch Keyzer Soze style is the most horrible fratty movie fan service idea but I just lolled at it

space is deep (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 04:58 (twelve years ago)

Schraderfreude

― carl agatha,

nice

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 08:43 (twelve years ago)

I actually think it's good that Junior has had minimal involvement in any of the plotlines, like his entire function is to keep everyone else grounded at least nominally in the everyday. He basically exists for the inevitable moment when he gets his heart broken.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

Walt survives Hank, Jesse, Nazis and cancer and passes the loot on to Flynn... Final shot is a slow tracking shot up the driveway and into the White House revealing that Flynn has blown the fortune on muscle cars and bacon and eggs. Walt at the table, tries feebly to smile as Jr shows him his latest purchases of polo shirts from The Gap. Fade to black, as "You Can't Always Get What You Want" plays over credit roll.

brio, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:24 (twelve years ago)

Walt could use all his money to make a new nobel-style prize, and award it to himself and not any of his old colleagues.

I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:01 (twelve years ago)

And for the third year in a row ... me!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)

just skimmed through this thread but a few points:

I don't understand what everyone thinks Jesse is going to tell Skylar. I mean she doesn't know every detail but she knows enough to know walt is a murderer. Jesse at the very least knows Skylar is well aware and at least somewhat compliant with the meth biz as shown in the scene where jesse and walt drop off meth gear to the carwash with skylar letting them in.

it would be v. interesting to see what the phone call to todd was about if not about killing jesse (which i still think it is because the child poisoner getting the child killer to kill the guy who will overlook anything except child killing seems pretty classically breaking bad in its logic).

then again maybe walt has worked out this is hanks doing after all. how hard would it be pinpoint the whereabouts of a cellphone given to him by Saul.

and holy crap is this the first smartphone weve seen on this show?

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:43 (twelve years ago)

could swear we've seen iPhones earlier

Nhex, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)

Obv BB started before smartphone saturation happened, and is set over 2 years rather than five years, so we're still only in 2010 at the latest if it was set at the time it started.

Also suspect criminals probably avoid smartphones like the plague because of the amount of data networks pull off them; gotta be way more traceable and incriminating than regular cellphones.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)

makes sense; disposable burners still do what they need to

Nhex, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:01 (twelve years ago)

Jesse's been listening to brostep for months now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)

Well yeah it makes sense. So why would Saul give Jesse a very traceable iPhone to "disappear" with?

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)

for narrative comfort

Nhex, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

xposts, thanks s.clover!

NI, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

i am behind a couple episodes

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

this is a dope tv show for sure though

гір кривбас кривий ріг (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)

it always kinda seemed like walt jr. was originally supposed to be around 10 years old, but then RJ Mitte was cast and they never re-conceived the character completely.

slam dunk, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:36 (twelve years ago)

"Jesus, Saul. Jesse did that to you?"

"Yeah. But you gotta understand, deep down he loves me."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

show will end with Walt Jr losing his virginity. his girlfriend then curls up to him and says "hey there, how would you like to kick this night into high gear"...and pulls out a teenth of blue meth.

Walt Jr sweats, saying his dad would kill him, and asks where she got it. She says "from a low-level dealer...but the stuff itself was made by a mastermind, known only as Heisenberg". Later that night, the White family goes to dinner and Walt accidentally puts the reservation under Heisenberg and Walt Jr suddenly knows the horrifying truth....

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)

Fade to the final credits roll of the series, set to "the statue got me high"

da croupier, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)

This is a good piece:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/how-real-is-breaking-bad-0913

polyphonic, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:24 (twelve years ago)

@PUA_txt: Instead of the carwash and a storage unit for cash, Walt should put his money in Bitcoin.

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 September 2013 01:17 (twelve years ago)

That was a good read, polyphonic.

carl agatha, Thursday, 5 September 2013 01:24 (twelve years ago)

yeah, really good interview

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 September 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)

agreed. also lol at

ESQ: Who are some movie gangsters you thought were on the mark? Who are the best?

CH: Miller's Crossing, top of the list.

Nhex, Thursday, 5 September 2013 03:03 (twelve years ago)

do you have a link to this please?

― NI, Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

no but dwayne "The Rock" johnson made a movie based off it

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 September 2013 03:29 (twelve years ago)

I'm not saying this is what will actually happen, but isn't the most straightforward explanation of the last scene that Jesse's (deliberately vague) threat to Walter was a push for Walt to decide to kill him in the hope that the DEA/police can get him right before he succeeds?

daavid, Thursday, 5 September 2013 05:25 (twelve years ago)

Hank wants Jesse dead, or at least doesn't mind if he dies as collateral. Skylar wants Jesse dead. Walt wants Jesse dead. Saul almost certainly would prefer it if Jesse were dead. Things not looking good for Jesse.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 07:06 (twelve years ago)

Hank wants Jesse dead, or at least doesn't mind if he dies as collateral.

erm

Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 September 2013 08:55 (twelve years ago)

Hank said pretty explicitly that he didn't mind if Walt tried to whack Jesse during the sting because they'd have it all on tape.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:33 (twelve years ago)

that's not quite the same as wanting him dead.

Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:34 (twelve years ago)

He's definitely quite far along the continuum of 'I love Jesse'---->---->---->'I want Jesse dead' in my eyes. He now has incontrovertible proof that Jesse is a murdering junkie scumbag drug dealer, he already hated him anyway, and Jesse is the catalyst that's basically just smashed Hank's life up.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:38 (twelve years ago)

Jesse's basically boned now in that he's caught between two monomaniacal obsessives but "Walt wants Jesse dead" is a BIG assumption.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:38 (twelve years ago)

No, Walt is the catalyst that smashed Hank's life up. Hank is willing to callously use virtually anybody to take him down.

I don't think Jesse's plan is to goad Walt into putting a hit on him. I think he's cooking up something crazy and I can't wait to see what the fuck it is.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:39 (twelve years ago)

Ok, maybe 'wants him dead' is semantically a bit far, but Hank is sure as hell not giving a damn if Jesse dies, and is going to put him in life-or-death situations to try and bring Walt down.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:46 (twelve years ago)

Yep

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 September 2013 09:47 (twelve years ago)


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