Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

oh lol pplains

the Badger and Skinny Pete spying only recording a conversation about Babylon 5 was beautiful

if it's not the hit it'd be weird of them to make you think it was, pointlessly weird given they're about to reveal whatever it is in the next episode anyway.

um... you've watched television before, right?!

it doesn't need to be some curveball that isn't the hit for it to be dramatic tv

xpost The implication is that Todd has been active doing ... stuff all along, right? I mean, what is his relationship with Lydia? He obviously wasn't cooking. Does Lydia employ him or did someone have Todd help Lydia? The fact that Walt has his cell number handy says a lot, though whether it says anything important is another matter.

I listened to that BB podcast with Gilligan and the writers, and they talked pretty matter-of-factly about the last scene as being Walt deciding Jesse has to be killed. Don't think it's a fake-out.

I wonder if the contents of Jesse's confession pay off somehow in the next episode or two. Having them completely unseen by the audience seems like a set-up for a big reveal - but then Jesse was so fucked up and freaked out at the time, it seems implausible he could have consciously planted the seeds of much when it was taped.

yeah Jesse's confession is unseen which immediately puts Walt's 'confession' wrong-footing to mind, but it did seem like they had a lot of the details. Obv it would have been a looong story, making myself lol at the idea of Jesse going 'well, let me paint the picture....' and the screen dissolving into S1 Ep1, the Whites at breakfast.

also when Walt called Todd I just kept thinking 'Rod... Todd... this is God'

"I got a job for you. Bring forth all the meth from your kitchen and leave it on the Schraders' porch. "

was todd's uncle the guy who set them up with the pesticide front? but also a neo-nazi?

xp Todd was the cook for Declan, although they kicked him off the team after a couple batches that they didn't think were worth keeping him around for. Declan's people replaced him with their own cook, who was significantly worse, causing Lydia to step in and take down his gang and reinstall Todd, with Todd's uncle's connections as the criminal network.

So Todd is presumably the cook again, Declan is out of the picture, and Todd's uncle is the criminal connection to keep things running. Presumably Walt has some idea of this due to Todd's voicemail, but he might not have connected it all.

I am not sure if he's hardcore neo-nazi or just like prison-yard neo nazi

backpacker neo-nazi

oh, those are the worst

pesticide dudes were friends of saul's iirc, and todd was one of the pro thieves who worked for them.

Todd was the cook for Declan, although they kicked him off the team after a couple batches that they didn't think were worth keeping him around for.

wait... did this happen, or are you speculating? i don't remember this

this was established in the dialogue right before lydia had everyone shot

Todd's first couple of batches were ~75% purity but then third time around he caused a fire, so they went for their safe but sloppy option.

ahh right.

Now imagining Todd as a sim

he definitely seems like the kind of dude who, you think he's sleeping but you open his bedroom door and he's just sitting in his chair, hands on his knees, eyes wide open, calm expression on face

you guys really think jesse is going to confess to being heisenberg and walt's gonna get all prideful and barge into the DEA office and set them straight? are you serious??

thank you

like walt's already recorded a simpering video in which he plays his role down as far as possible.

thats like a sitcom move *realization of what he's done slowly dawns on walt's face as everybody laughs*

Or so it will seem...until you remember the ricin cigarette.

thats like a sitcom move *realization of what he's done slowly dawns on walt's face as everybody laughs*

"b-b-but it was me! i really was heisenberg!"

"oh walter you old ninny!"

Jesse confessing to being Heisenberg would benefit precisely one person and that's Walt. It's a dumb theory.

Plus everybody who matters in the story who knows that Heisenberg exists already knows that Walt is definitely the guy. Lydia & Madrigal, Todd & the Nazis, Skylar, and Hank & Gomie all know Walt is Heisenberg - so who would Jesse be fooling if he confessed to being Heisenberg? Meth-heads? The general public of Albuquerque?

Big Head Todd and the Nazis

I know that Walt's real home is his sense of empire and security, but I'm not sure what could break that other than ripping apart his family or getting rid of his store of money. Maybe sabotaging his relationships with Lydia/Saul/Todd's family.

Jesse's gonna open cheaper car washes.

dang, dan. you might be on to something.

maybe Jesse's gonna become an EVEN better/more successful meth cook than Walt. that'll learn 'im.

He doesn't even want those relationships. They were only means to ends. Skyler/Junior/Holly and the money to take care of them after he's dead are the only things that matter to him. It all goes back to S1E1 (and it's nice that Gilligan never loses that focus.) xxxp

I know that Walt's real home is his sense of empire and security, but I'm not sure what could break that other than ripping apart his family or getting rid of his store of money. Maybe sabotaging his relationships with Lydia/Saul/Todd's family.

As far as I'm aware, Jessie a) doesn't know that Walt's buried the money in the desert, b) doesn't know that Skyler's been involved and complicit for ages and c) doesn't know there's been a bloody coup in the meth operation. Pretty fucking big gaps in his knowledge. So it could be any of these and all of them could blow up in his face.

The end he needs right now is protection and economic security! If he didn't have Saul's network in the last two episodes, he'd have been fucked. Walt likes to think he's an island (or has built an island for his family with his economic security) but he's needed Jesse so many times.

He could tell Skyler/Walt Jr I guess. The second part of that would prob complete the ripping apart of family task.

Anything that facilitates another Jesse and Skyler scene is fine with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MVOpBNCrz4

^^^ Hall of famer IMO.

I thought Walt's pump explanation was A+. I laughed more at the most recent episode than any episode for a long time.

"all over my... groin"

I know BB doesn't conform to Occam's Razor much - but the simplest interpretation of Jesse's threat to "hit you where you really live" seems like he plans to reveal the truth about Walt to Walt Jr.

This works plot-wise too because presumably Jesse has to convince Hank to be in on his plan, and Hank wants to get Walt Jr away from Walt so he would go for this.

I reckon that's what's going to happen too, although I suspect he's going to go direct to Skyler rather than Junior. I can't remember if Jesse and Walter Jr have ever been in the same place at the same time.

Not sure Skyler and Walt Junior have ever been in the same place at the same time. At least not since breakfasts in season two.

for all we know about walt jr he could be running his own meth empire.

Also Todd and the Nazis trying to kill Jesse but going over-the-top with it and causing some tragic blowback for Walt is almost a given, I think.

"Sorry I had to shoot your baby, Mr. White, but she saw everything."

Would Walt Jr wear a wire though? And wouldn't Walt just tell Jr his story about Hank being the meth kingpin?

Also Todd and the Nazis trying to kill Jesse but going over-the-top with it and causing some tragic blowback for Walt is almost a given, I think.

100 per cent. I said already I reckon it's going to be Hank and Marie getting wasted in this showdown, poss Walt Jr too.

I think Junior's sympathies might lie with whoever is straight with him (finally, for once in his life) first.

Walter Junior totally idolises Hank though, he just wouldn't believe that. Also Walt had that weird breakdown in front of him last season, coupled with a shitload of other unexplained weird behaviour.

Someone at work pointed out that Walter Jr was wearing a hoodie like Jesse in the last episode so there could be a case of mistaken identity. I'm pretty sceptical about that given Todd has never seen Jesse being, y'know, obviously disabled, but that would be pretty fucking horrible all round.

what if they mistake the baby for jesse