The Irish

nah

'tinkers' an offensive enough term but it doesnt imo/e have the edge of knacker to it- there'd be old ppl out rural that remember when a tinker was a tinker and would have mended, sharpened, fixed around the place. they'd have called into my grandmothers and been known and known there was welcome and tinker was how they were known.

but prob nowadays it's just a softer way of marking the travellers tbh

the way i hear it my mom wasn't allowed to talk to the tinker boy

irish teen groups idk

there was a load of them mighty boosh kids, they'd have been grunge when i was a lad and emo prob a few years behind me but they were boosh iirc. now they just wear yellow shoes with stripey tights. as a group they'd be known as eejits. there's a lot more of them in dublin, or than i remember from when i was at school.

there's yr skangers, you'll have known them

there's yr group of kinda normalish indie kids, not standing out or anything beyond a partic satchel or w/e. ilxy looking yknow.

there's preppy kids in dublin. we didn't have them.

there's culchie kids. struggling for style and maybe getting there or not as the solid upbringing brought them out of themselves or not. teeth are better these days.

gaa lads. we had gaa lads. not quite jocks ime experience until i moved to a bigger town, then yeah def stereotype jocks.

idk. i stress i grew up in rural communities and we had p much fuck all of anything beyond culchie or normal kids. the only other group of note were eh prob under the heading 'troubled' kids where the parents were alcos or just fucked or w/e i mean we had more of those than we did booshes skangers or preppy combined

didnt u play gaa

yr mom was rural gbx iirc, i would never have asked her age but yeah if she was rural in the 50's or 60's the tinker divide, i guess here now, was probably nothing like as pronounced as it is now ito standards of poverty/living or what have you.

i was 16 when we moved to a town where they were travellers but tbh by that stage, or in that town, or w/e, it was not a distinct culture, they'd all have been housed and settled and not really any different from many townie kids from estates as i'd have seen em

i played hurling during one of my incarnations (donegal 1988-94 iirc) but never really football, tbrr i was an athletics star when that wasnt any fucking good to you in rural ireland but no i never played team sports and never went near the fuckin gaa lads in actual games those guys would kill you

darragh did you know any asians growing up

lol wtf man srsly i was probably notable enough for knowing some english ppl growing up

the other day an erudite elderly relative was explaining the moral superiority of gaelic fitba, sthing like more opportunities to score, not english

i saw a black guy in a hotel in killybegs in 1993 i was 12 i guess it was 'woah'

darragh are you friends with any asians now irl, any mates

the superiority in gaelic and the ease of scoring is that it causes u as a defender to front the fuck up i think. you sit off, he scores, anywhere within 40 yards. hence, prob, the noted leniency on physical contact vs other sports such as soccer, rugby, wrestling or murder

since this is now the ask deems thread, what were your athletics events and how good were u and do u think u could outsprint michael dawson over 100m

yeah my mom was rural as hell (UP HILL BOTH WAYS, NO RUNNING WATER, AYE WE RAISED RABBITS), and in the 50s as well

xp nope, tho i promise i've not been avoiding em or anything

the newest mate i've met irl is a rather spiffing young gay military history grad of norman heritage who is v politically active. he would, imo, make an excellent addition to hibernian ilx but he tends to make jokes of questionable taste regarding the lower orders etc so maybe not just yet

lol this always turns into the ask deems threads and i bet the irish ilxors are rtde

boys u13 champion donegal 1993 in 200m, 100m hurdles, long jump, high jump and 1500m at yr service, ulster champ high jumper and 4th in all ireland that year (tho i was forced to wear spiked shoes which threw me)

couldnt outsprint dawson now, no, but back then i'd back myself against most (i was silver in the 100m fwiw but yerman was all-ireland winner that year so i wasn't gutted)

i do prob need an ask deems thread tbrr on volume alone if not noteworthiness or expertise

what was your best 100m? dawson would be maybe high 12s or something idk? we won't be harsh and force his limited mind to navigate any real or metaphorical hurdles so just flat out peak deems vs peak dawson

yeah my mom was rural as hell (UP HILL BOTH WAYS, NO RUNNING WATER, AYE WE RAISED RABBITS), and in the 50s as well

― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx),

ya fuck all eating in a rabbit we were lucky (ancestrally like) we had the fishing

deems are there any irish tv shows you rate and would recommend watching

idk these weren't timed events that i recall nakh

deems do you feel j.r.r. tolkien appropriated any of yer culture for the lord of the rings and if so which parts

'the irish' = deems, everyone knows this and assents

eh factual or dramatic or documentary style or what

i mean there's this show called 'hands' that i can't find anywhere online but shows every few years and it is filmmaker going from town to town just spending an hour each time on a particular craftsman and it is a+ record of (at a guess) 60's ireland as well as being the 'how it's made' of its day, if how it's made focused on men drinking strong tea before making cartwheels or raising honeybees or casting iron in a shed or w/e

'reeling in the years' is a p good newsreel show that does year-to-year summations of the stories, scandals, music, fashion, sport, adverts w/e of that year, it's a good starter

drama- ppl rep for 'love/hate' which deals with post celtic tiger drug/gang drama- not watched but it's not under fierce competition here.

politics- nothing glitzy or as clever as yr jon stewarts etc, but current affairs are well served by yr primetime, frontline, tonight with aforementioned vincent browne i guess.

i am not massively 'cultured' tbh. watch some hurling if you can find a hd clip, that's the stuff. and guinness ads.

jrr tolkien- can't say as any of it resonates strongly tbh. it's a v british work and if we were appropriated anywherre it may well be as the dunlander oathbreakers skulking in ignorance and fear as we faded into nothingness in the far hills away from the light and warm evenings of yr brees and yr brandybucks

The Dunlendings almost all had beards, dirty faces, and long matted hair. They also wore clothes of leather and animal skin. The weapons carried by Dunlendings were simple but effective for their purpose. They usually fought with clubs and pitchforks, and at times they carried torches to act as lights at night and to burn buildings by day. The buildings that Dunlendings lived and worked in were crude shacks of wood and animal skin that were often sabotaged by wargs and sometimes the Rohirrim

^^^^

So the dunlenders were a bunch of scrappers

deems are there any irish tv shows you rate and would recommend watching

― 乒乓, Monday, September 2, 2013 8:44 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hmFPBf-C8

while that was good enough, apparently they were.

we do not get to see, tbh, if, after the king returned, they developed into a race of lugubrious drunkards prone to religion and property development

can't see that max

max's ppl are from roscommon, ireland does not, imo, get much realer than roscommon, like the west but without even 'the fishing' ffs

i have found hands, thank u thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JuTNhRjbhU

sally o'brien and the way she might look at you

yeah tho 'my people' who are from ireland comprise only like 1/8 of my total people, maybe 1/16th, i can never remember

still i love ireland and i love the irish and love sally o'brien and the way she might look at you and the pint of harp

i dont want to hear a fuckin sound out the back of the class at 1:30 dye hear me lads

lmao ty4 sally o'brien

1/16 is p much purebred for a 'yank' tbf max

these days sally o'brien would skull that pint of harp but it'd be more likely the pint of drugs and she'd lep a fence to rape ya god save ireland

now im not saying things were better nor worse before but a man gets tired repairing fences i'll swear

the relative lack of 'culture' is one of the best things about ireland, the seeping nothing shit that is the aura of content and envelopes everything even if u dont pay attention to the content itself

the benefits of being a small country where there are only a couple of national newspapers and 80% of the tv music etc is imported, like there is no 'stephen fry' in ireland, there is probably some person who interview ppl on rte but there isn't 'david frost', i don't think u even use the term 'national treasure', it just seemed easier to avoid culture in this sense that it is in england

an exception would be that everyone has some gossip related to u2

we have culture but it is idk

like, i'd guess that with cultural nationalism as it developed in the late 19th c you didn't get to choose the culture you had, it was tacitly (explicitly?) agreed that 'this' is irish/gaelic culture, 'this' is a unified banner and we must of necessity run with it in order to develop even the concept that we can forge and keep an identity. i think that probably continued right through dev and all that, with the obvious proviso that we had the writers- i think that they would themselves prob acknowledge themselves as outside the system of culture as agreed tho, even as it dominated and swamped them in most of what they did.

the concept of an irish culture that is free to develop and explore itself and be irish culture merely from the fact of irish origin as opposed to conforming to yr historical type will in time imo probably bring us to a comfortable satellite position with the uk, but with curlier writing and the knowledge that we have authenticity in our bones should we ever need it

and we'll always have the writers

rly we have much better ppl to delve into every aspect of that and agree/disagree, would read that thread tho

oh fuck, fr ted is obv noteworthy as irish tv gets dayo, if you can get into that you will genuinely be close to the heart of something important

watch fr ted, read o'brien or one of the others, i'm not getting into who you should listen to but personally planxty from my limited exposure do seem like a good broad target, drink some green spot if you can get it. you'd be not far off something true.

yeah i wondered why u hadn't directed dayo to the the father ted offends the craggy island chinese community episode

if i moved to the auld country should i settle in craggy island

Set on the fictional Craggy Island, a remote location off Ireland's west coast

;_;