Also shakey OTM re Jane. Really doesn't feel like a loose end to me.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 30 August 2013 03:18 (twelve years ago)
Lols at some of the never realized plot points on the writers room board mid way into breaking season 4. And woah at the whole Gus kidnaps Brock angle.
http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/08/breaking-bad-writers-room-photos/
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Friday, 30 August 2013 03:22 (twelve years ago)
whoa @ "twaughthammer breaks huge in czech republic"
― latebloomer, Friday, 30 August 2013 05:23 (twelve years ago)
I think Jane's death felt like it needed a resolution up until the season 4 finale, but then Walt poisoned Brock, and after that resolving both of those storylines would've been redundant, as they would've served the same function: to drive the final wedge between Jesse and Walt, and make Jesse see what a monster Walt is. As it is now, letting Jane die can be seen as Walt's point of no return, and poisoning Brock is his lowest point, so they're both signposts in the complete story of Walt's descent. Jane has served her purpose for the overall plot, resolving her death isn't needed anymore. Of course if the writers can still come up with some good way to let the truth about Jane come to light, I'm fine with that, but if they don't, I don't think it'll feel like a loose end.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 August 2013 06:55 (twelve years ago)
Walt has a weird power over Jesse even now though. I don't think this necessarily a final wedge at all, especially as there's probably still some big Todd/Lydia-related bombshell that could still force them to act together.
This is leaving aside the most important question of whether he'll still call Walt 'Mr White' in their next scene.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 August 2013 07:17 (twelve years ago)
OMG, final scene will be Jesse calling Walt Walt.
Walt (smiling, arms out for a hug): "You're a man now, Jesse."Jesse: "It's Mr. Pinkman." (shoots Walt)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2013 11:54 (twelve years ago)
I seem to remember Jesse calling him Walter once sarcastically.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 30 August 2013 11:55 (twelve years ago)
SPOILERS
there's a "Mr. White" in the preview for the next episode
― Number None, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:12 (twelve years ago)
I think he called him "Walt" when they were stuck in the desert with the RV...?
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:15 (twelve years ago)
really enjoying the way cranston's acting and walt's acting are kind of dovetailing now.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Friday, 30 August 2013 12:42 (twelve years ago)
like contrite walt on the video. paternal walt with jesse, etc.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Friday, 30 August 2013 12:43 (twelve years ago)
i don't know if we've seen a single honest emotional Walt reaction in conversation since Mike's death
― Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
There's an honesty of sorts in the Jesse hug, I think. He does have that weird paternal thing for him even as he continues to fuck Jesse's life up in multiple ways. Like, a big part of Walt's whole problem is that he can't separate the interests of the people around him from his own self interest.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
So then basically he's Jesse's dad in every sense but the biological.
― Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)
And spiritual.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
And ethical.
Gunn Cranston and Gilligan are on Charlie Rose right now
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 1 September 2013 00:38 (twelve years ago)
!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2013 04:09 (twelve years ago)
ty will dvr
It takes two people to properly operate that gun fwiw
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 1 September 2013 04:20 (twelve years ago)
that c rose aired b4 the season started fyi; i think there were even 2 of them - 1 roundtable & 1 w an audience
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 1 September 2013 04:23 (twelve years ago)
Yah I hate to disagree w/you but I saw Rambo so
― bioethical technothriller (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 1 September 2013 05:45 (twelve years ago)
apparently irl you need a second guy to load the bullets or it jams
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 1 September 2013 05:52 (twelve years ago)
Walt will solve that WITH CHEMISTRY
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:40 (twelve years ago)
I have a feeling this series will end in nuclear holocaust when Walt cons the President into thinking Russia has launched nukes.
He survives and it kills all of his cancer. forced to live the rest of his life alone, cooking meth for nobody to buy.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:00 (twelve years ago)
The Charlie Rose interview.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:19 (twelve years ago)
It's all about the Roomba. The Roomba is the key.
― Ashes, Pits of Ashes (leavethecapital), Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
It takes two people to properly operate that gun
M60s work just fine single handed (I passed 30-50 rounds through one in Army BCT in 1991). Few if any would be able to fire in automatic mode handheld, but they're just fine propped bipod or foxhole edge.
The additional crewmen are there for carrying extra ammo, barrels & bipod/tripod, and importantly, crew-served weapons are just more likely be fired in a targeted manner. After WWII, Army psychiatrists discovered most grunts with rifles would fire high and blindly, and tended to cower behind cover, but just being in a weapons crew creates the psychological pressure / support to pop one's head out of cover to sight the weapon.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 1 September 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
They're really hamming it up tonight. Might be their last chance to show levity before the downward spiral of the last several episodes starts up.
― More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Monday, 2 September 2013 01:38 (twelve years ago)
oh well bollocks i got the time muddled and tuned in to see the end.
― Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:05 (twelve years ago)
I thought that episode was nearly perfect until depressed Jesse got stars in his eyes goin' "I know a better way...a better way" gazin up at the skies and shit, c'mon now Aaron
otherwise great, Saul in great form imo, I get more excited for the Saul show every week
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)
well yeah cuz Jesse was looking at me!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)
oh man this was so great. so many people exposing ugly sides of themselves. Hank using Jesse as a pawn and having the stones to admit it. Marie admitting she fantasizes about poisoning Walt. Skyler asking WAlt indirectly to kill Jesse.
the reveal of why Jesse opted not to burn the house down. The sleight of hand with the "hit man" at the end (though I did guess that one). Jesse's threat. the setup for an explosive finale.
man I have such a boner.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 2 September 2013 02:24 (twelve years ago)
i was... a little frustrated by how they connected some of these dots? The Hank/Jessie/Gomez connection feels a little wobbly to me. I don't think I care that much but the emphasis on subtlety is somewhat lost.
For those of you who like conspiracy theories, I noticed that the DEA coffee cup that Jessie got had a handle out in a way that spelled D E A Dand on the bookshelf behind him when they're gearing up for that video, there's a box set of Deadwood and a book called "Destiny"real i buried paul stuff there
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 04:56 (twelve years ago)
and skyler's "kill that guy" thing was not so great for my money. arguments upthread about agency aside, it feels sorta in character but more hard boiled than she's been
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 04:57 (twelve years ago)
ha, I had a look at the bookshelf too, I noticed Deadwood but nothing else of particular interest. Maybe I should go back and choose a book to spin a crackpot theory from.
― Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:01 (twelve years ago)
well there's a book called 'The Final Days' so you can definitely run with that DEAD thing. Me, I'll come up with something to account for the wide variety of horse books.
― Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:04 (twelve years ago)
beating a DEAD horse, it's so obvious
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)
also not so crazy on the story hinging on "thug waiting for his daughter" filip. just in general feels like they do this sort of thing better most of the time. not mad at it exactly, but wary.
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:08 (twelve years ago)
I think it would have been a lot more elegant if Jesse had just had a pure gut feeling like Gus did in the parking garage.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 2 September 2013 05:10 (twelve years ago)
agree, that would've worked just fine for meoh, i completely forgot anna gunn was a regular on deadwoodso SHE will make JESSIE DEADthe pieces all fit
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:10 (twelve years ago)
For those of you who like conspiracy theories, I noticed that the DEA coffee cup that Jessie got had a handle out in a way that spelled D E A D
I just watched The Departed again last night and noticed some Xs in this episode.
― bioethical technothriller (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:12 (twelve years ago)
also not so crazy on the story hinging on "thug waiting for his daughter" filip. just in general feels like they do this sort of thing better most of the time. not mad at it exactly, but wary. --YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu)
Really could have been anyone though. Jesse was convinced it was to be.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:20 (twelve years ago)
And of course they had to hire yet another bald actor! I'll bet "The Monkees" had more collective hair than the complete male cast of this series past & present.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:32 (twelve years ago)
Also loved how Hank chose Marie's purplest suitcases to pack, almost apologetic-like
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:34 (twelve years ago)
i would not be surprised if she had luggage that was even more purple than that.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:35 (twelve years ago)
gah they are ratcheting up the tension, imma need valium to make it to the finale
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2013 06:20 (twelve years ago)
Did Jesse tell Hank about Gale, I wonder?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 2 September 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)
"Gale died of natural causes"
― Neanderthal, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:42 (twelve years ago)
I liked that they had Hank saying he didn't give a shit if Pinkman got offed - nice layer to the character and storyof how Walt has infected everyone
so what's jesse's plan? all he said was "next time I'm going to hit you where you really live", right?
― brio, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:55 (twelve years ago)