Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

plus jesse knew about all the awful shit walt did/instigated/shrugged off (killing gale, killing gus, killing mike's men, killing mike, todd killing the kid), but he always remained willfully ignorant of the implications. perhaps he assumed he was exempt from such dealings, and now he's come to the conclusion that he is not.

I figured out lots of conspiracies while really baked. xp

I don't think Jesse feels "exempt" from any dealings. He seems to be the character most aware of the toll things have taken on him. Except maybe Hank. Both are in sort of a PTSD haze.

And of course, Hank actually suffers from PTSD, so he's totally aware the toll violence has taken on him. Skyler no doubt feels exempt, because Walt has repeatedly assured her that she is (sucker). And Walt's ego tells him he is morally exempt, too, which is why the bad stuff doesn't weigh on him at all. All about him.

you left out a few killings Ed... seriously how many people has Walt killed? Dozens at least

Murders committed by Walt
Emilio Koyama: Poisoned with phosphine gas. ("Pilot")
Domingo Gallardo "Krazy 8" Molina: Strangled him with a bike lock. ("...and the Bag's in the River")
Rival Dealers: Ran over them with his car, then shot one of them in the head. ("Half Measures")
Two of Gus' Henchmen: Both shot to death. ("Face Off")
Mike Ehrmantraut: Shot in the guts. ("Say My Name")
Murders connected to Walt
Gale Boetticher: Shot by Jesse on Walt's orders so that Walt and Jesse would be the only meth manufacturers available ("Full Measure").
Gustavo Fring: Blown up by Hector Salamanca. Walter supplied the bomb ("Face Off").
Tyrus Kitt: Blown up by Hector Salamanca. Walter supplied the bomb ("Face Off").
Gus's 10 former employees: Murdered by Jack and the White Supremacist group on Walt's orders ("Gliding Over All").
Dan Wachsberger
Jack McGann
Andrew Holt
Anthony Perez
Isaac Conley
William Moniz
Harris Boivin
Raymond Martinez
Ron Forenall
Dennis Markowski
Deaths connected to Walt
Jane Margolis: Passed out after intravenously injecting a large amount of heroin. Soon after, Walt inadvertently rolled her onto her back, causing her to aspirate. Walt watched these events unfold, but ultimately made the difficult decision not to save her. ("Phoenix")
167 People aboard the Wayfarer 515: Due to Walt's conscious decision not to save Jane as she aspirated, Donald Margolis (Jane's father), grief-stricken and consequently unfocused, caused Wayfarer Flight 515 to collide with another plane while working as an air traffic controller. ("ABQ")
Hector "Tio" Salamanca: Voluntarily blew himself up. Walter supplied the bomb. ("Face Off")

Plus the kid on the bike, I think?

I don't think Jesse feels "exempt" from any dealings

exempt meaning jesse didn't think walt would use his destructive scheming powers against him, obv he's suffered the fallout from walt's machinations

Plus the kid on the bike, I think?

this one was todd

oops just saw the "connected to" bit

xp Exempt maybe in that sense, but mainly eaten up with guilt because of his own complicity, which has enabled Walt to keep going. Also, re killing Gale (even though it seemed necessary at the time, to save Walt and maybe himself, but he might not even be sure of that now, as Walt's manipulations get more real to him). So Walt had enough of his 'n' Hank's ill-gotten gains that he could shell out almost $200,000 for med bills, and more for his own--but that can seem like chump change to those following Heisenberg's activities--so where's the rest of it? Money-laundering, h'm-m-m---at the carwash?! Can such things be? Not the precious carwash, his legacy!

walt is a schemeaholic itd be cool if they gave us a flashback to some of his precriminal schemes

this is a sensational idea.

I figured out lots of conspiracies while really baked.

yeah if anything the weed put jesse right in that sweet spot of paranoia necessary for putting the pieces together

tbf if Jesse didn't kill Gale, good chance Jesse would've been killed too; unlikely Gus would just let him walk away or expect him to keep working in the superlab with Gale after the death of Walt

while watching this episode I had one of the most stupid thoughts I've ever had - "wouldn't people wonder why Walt's car is covered in sand and dust all the time?" HE OWNS A CAR WASH.

dun dun DUN

Walt is also pretty much a clean freak.

how many times did he take the aztec to the shop this year

Jesse pours Mountain Dew all over the house and Walt is overrun by a stampede of extreme sports enthusiasts looking for sweet Dew nectar, hence the skateboarders.

Yes, killing Gale did seem necessary, but point is it was also one of Walt's imperatives, all of which are are at least tainted by association (heh I said "taint").
Main precriminal scheme (if it was pre-), the one referenced when his ex-wife suddenly showed up: she and Hank and his best friend were science fiends back in college, started some kind of enterprise with her father's money, Hank's experiments and best friend's business smarts, then it all went awry---he left her, left it all after some big showdown at a family function. Hank moves to other end of country (from New Hampshire, where he's coming back from in flash-forwards? Maybe).
Starts over, workin' in the car wash, goes to night school, takes ed courses and gets credentials for secondary school teaching. Tells his second family that he's got extra money for med expenses from ex and her present hub, his ex-best friend,both of whom run the company they all three started.
But in the confrontation where this all comes out, and she does offer the money, I think, now that she knows he supposedly need it, he makes it clear that this would be an obscene joke--because they stole the money from him, in effect, by not recognizing they would have nothing and be nothing with out him, by not bowing down etc. etc. etc. The overachieving meth wizardry, which gets him way too much attention, all comes from this resurrected craving for vengeance.

by Hank's experiments I assume you mean Schraderbrau

Doubt Jesse ever learns about Jane. Rabid dogs don't need closure.

the way that interview w/ the writer of the last ep came off i took as it was either/or jesse learning abt jane or this brock/ricin storyline coming back

Yes of course I meant Walt-not-Hank throughout that last burst--sorry.

Yes, killing Gale did seem necessary

This is the one aspect of brba that continues to irk me - Walt's miraculous meth recipe saving his and Jesse's asses so many times. When Jesse and Walt cook their very first batch ('cow house!') Jesse is amazed by the final product 'this is art, mr white!' 'Thank you, Jesse, but its just basic chemistry' Basic chemistry that apparently only one person in the world can do.
Then later the methylamine heists. The cartel chemist pointed out they make their own methylamine because even a chemistry novice can make methylamine. Not the one guy in the world that can cook the best meth though apparently.

Also shakey OTM re Jane. Really doesn't feel like a loose end to me.

Lols at some of the never realized plot points on the writers room board mid way into breaking season 4. And woah at the whole Gus kidnaps Brock angle.

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/08/breaking-bad-writers-room-photos/

whoa @ "twaughthammer breaks huge in czech republic"

I think Jane's death felt like it needed a resolution up until the season 4 finale, but then Walt poisoned Brock, and after that resolving both of those storylines would've been redundant, as they would've served the same function: to drive the final wedge between Jesse and Walt, and make Jesse see what a monster Walt is. As it is now, letting Jane die can be seen as Walt's point of no return, and poisoning Brock is his lowest point, so they're both signposts in the complete story of Walt's descent. Jane has served her purpose for the overall plot, resolving her death isn't needed anymore. Of course if the writers can still come up with some good way to let the truth about Jane come to light, I'm fine with that, but if they don't, I don't think it'll feel like a loose end.

Walt has a weird power over Jesse even now though. I don't think this necessarily a final wedge at all, especially as there's probably still some big Todd/Lydia-related bombshell that could still force them to act together.

This is leaving aside the most important question of whether he'll still call Walt 'Mr White' in their next scene.

OMG, final scene will be Jesse calling Walt Walt.

Walt (smiling, arms out for a hug): "You're a man now, Jesse."
Jesse: "It's Mr. Pinkman." (shoots Walt)

I seem to remember Jesse calling him Walter once sarcastically.

SPOILERS

there's a "Mr. White" in the preview for the next episode

I seem to remember Jesse calling him Walter once sarcastically.

I think he called him "Walt" when they were stuck in the desert with the RV...?

really enjoying the way cranston's acting and walt's acting are kind of dovetailing now.

like contrite walt on the video. paternal walt with jesse, etc.

i don't know if we've seen a single honest emotional Walt reaction in conversation since Mike's death

There's an honesty of sorts in the Jesse hug, I think. He does have that weird paternal thing for him even as he continues to fuck Jesse's life up in multiple ways. Like, a big part of Walt's whole problem is that he can't separate the interests of the people around him from his own self interest.

So then basically he's Jesse's dad in every sense but the biological.

And spiritual.

And ethical.

Gunn Cranston and Gilligan are on Charlie Rose right now

!

ty will dvr

Walt has a weird power over Jesse even now though. I don't think this necessarily a final wedge at all, especially as there's probably still some big Todd/Lydia-related bombshell that could still force them to act together.

It takes two people to properly operate that gun fwiw

that c rose aired b4 the season started fyi; i think there were even 2 of them - 1 roundtable & 1 w an audience

It takes two people to properly operate that gun fwiw

Yah I hate to disagree w/you but I saw Rambo so

apparently irl you need a second guy to load the bullets or it jams

Walt will solve that WITH CHEMISTRY

I have a feeling this series will end in nuclear holocaust when Walt cons the President into thinking Russia has launched nukes.

He survives and it kills all of his cancer. forced to live the rest of his life alone, cooking meth for nobody to buy.

The Charlie Rose interview.