no reason he can't be a known criminal and presumed dead
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
we shd poll like % chance u think theyll fuck it up. i agree, p low imo
what's the InTrade on "Breaking Bad ends appropriately & satisfactory according to the majority of critics and fans."
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
Is Carol the same neighbor he used to check his house for bombs or whatev?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)
seems weird to me that anyone, neighbor or not, would be aware of the intricacies of a criminal enterprise, no matter how well reported. seems more likely she thought he was dead imho, but we'll see.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
Pretty clearly set up that neighbor loses her shit because Walt is a known criminal. Also, I'm a little confused - was someone arguing upthread that the cancer did not come back? Because that's just nuts.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
fence around the house family gone might ask a few questions, might be the talk of the neighborhood, might be a big local news story
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
Like, the derelict house has his nom de guerre sprayed on it. Walt's secret identity is public record. Unless he plays it off as payback from kingpin Hank ... hmm. And fakes his death ... hmmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:57 (twelve years ago)
the derelict house has his nom de guerre sprayed on it
why is everyone making such a big deal of this, it's on the INSIDE of the house
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
conjecture in this thread is ridiculously out of control
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)
it just means people know
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)
if Jesse is shown spraypainting that on the living room in the next episode I am going to lol @ all of you
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
exactly. currently the cancer only comes up as weapon against others, not as something that's impeding walt in any obvious way. what this means remains to be seen, and I guess you can place your over/under on it if you please, but that's not what i'm doing.
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:58 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
gilligan says in the latest post-show podcast that they went into 5b completely against the idea of walt's cancer returning because it was too easy a way out. "oh look at all this chaos i created. well, late!" but then they changed their minds on it and i cant recall the specifics of why. maybe because it brings walt back to his original reasoning highlighting the contrast between season 1 walt and season 5 walt. also walt can use it in the most assholish way possible to manipulating everyone and everything as weve already seen. like i said above there is actually a scene of the oncologist telling him his cancer is back in a bad way but that scene will have to wait for the bluray.Anyway, I certainly didnt get the feeling that the cancer is going to be what gets him in the end.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
and it will be well deserved xp
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesse spray painting could easily lead to people knowing, i mean why is the house fenced off, why is the neighbor tripping balls
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
The main thing about the cancer being it allows Walt to persist with the delusion that he's doing this all for his family. Regardless of how bad he gets, you get the feeling Walt does actually believe his own bullshit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
i really wish we'd gotten the news of an excised scene with walt's oncologist before i had to have my "witnessed cancer treatment" bonafides questioned for daring to suggest walt might not be giving everyone all the information he has. where did they reveal this outtake, sunny?
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:42 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Gilligan and editor Kelley Dixon have been doing a post show podcast since the beginning of season 2. lots of guests including cast, producers, writers, music supervisor, etc that usually relate to that particular episode e.g. Dean Norris was on for the 'One Minute' after show. The source music guy was on after the 'crystal blue persuasion' ep. I love it because they really go into what the character is going through mentally and emotionally at that moment without ever giving away spoilers for future shows. I also love it because they go into detail as to why a certain scene was written, why it was shot in the way it was, all the crazy shit they had to do to get certain shots and i find that stuff interesting. Some of them are pretty funny too. They record these podcasts in post-production so its all still pretty fresh for them.
Anyways, it's called 'Breaking Bad Insider Podcast' and is released on the Monday evening or Tuesday after the Sunday Night BB ep airs.
Link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-bad-insider-podcast/id311058181?mt=2
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)
why is the neighbor tripping balls
those were oranges.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)
man, i'd love to hear that stuff later but i so don't want to be let in behind the curtain mid-show
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:18 (twelve years ago)
I'll ask my real q again: how many episodes are left?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
5, right?
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
Yeah we've done 3, so 5 episodes are left -- season is 8 episodes long
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
7
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)
∞
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)
Ok thanks. For some reason I was under the impression that there were only 5 total and we had seen 3/5. Glad to be wrong! Carry on.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)
8 last season, 8 this season. You're safe for now :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
Are we counting Todd and Uncle Jack's Christmas special "Dreaming of a White Power Christmas"?
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Thursday, 29 August 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
I think I saw that on Jerry springer circa 1994
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:09 (twelve years ago)
Guys we had a few coincidences Sunday daytime before 'confessions' aired.We went to a family members place because they were out of town and we were invited to use their pool. Where had they gone? ALASKAWhile swimming in the pool I realized it was fiberglass just like Whites. Like a fiberglass shell tossed in a hole rather than a concrete pool poured into the ground. After we dried off we sat at a table for a while when I realized not 10 ft from us was a potted Lily of the Valley. WOAHS.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:16 (twelve years ago)
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a house that presumably will be on fire soon
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 29 August 2013 04:51 (twelve years ago)
The recent re-emphasis on the WW/Jesse father/son dynamic; WW's success in retaining his children in his home, first by using the cancer as a persuasion with WW Jr, and then by making the DVD FAO Hank and Marie; and Jesse's pouring of the petrol (in anger at realisation that WW poisoned Jesse's potential "son" Brock) - all of this might combine to mean bad news for WW Jr.
Unless it's to be a WW Jr / Jesse "Home Alone" prank-fest.
― Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Thursday, 29 August 2013 06:16 (twelve years ago)
Nah, that was an older lady. (IIRC she was played by Vince Gilligan's mom.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 August 2013 08:37 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, a house that is vandalized and overrun by skaters. Anyway, did anyone answer upthread? Was the house in the premiere merely vandalized or post-fire? Is there any sign it was actually burned in the flash-forward season premiere? I can't remember. Regardless, I think if someone spills gas all over your house you pretty much have to get out and close it off anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:46 (twelve years ago)
didnt look burned
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)
the gasoline all over the house comes in the same episode that skylar insists to her sister that her kids are back home because they're safe now
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)
I seem to remember there still being carpeting on the floor when FutureWalt broken in. And no signs of fire damage.
xp
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:50 (twelve years ago)
i think maybe a mild spoiler to that point can be found if you look in the guest actors for the next ep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabid_Dog
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:56 (twelve years ago)
hah walt shows up w his gun i guess
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:58 (twelve years ago)
maybe he gets caught by walt jr as he kills jesse
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:00 (twelve years ago)
hey dad whats going on *confused face*oh nothing son just giving jesse here a little massage *blood everywhere*
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)
I think the description to the penultimate episode is the most interesting:
Events set in motion long ago move toward a conclusion.
And apparently Gilligan has said (though I can't locate the source for this) that something/someone most viewers have forgotten about will come back before the series is over. I wonder what this could be? A relative of Krazy-8 will try to avenge him? Jane's dad escapes from prison? Ted Beneke decides to talk to the cops?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)
Those synopses are almost as meaningless as 'Next Week on Mad Men'.
"Things heat up for Walt in unexpected ways.""Everyone copes with radically changed circumstances in different ways."
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)
ya I looked at those the other day, I think the biggest spoiler they offer is that Walt doesn't die for at least another couple of episodes.
― Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
Jane's dad didn't go to prison, he shot himself.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)
was sent to prison for shooting himself iirc
― this gtr climbed mt. washington (Edward III), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:05 (twelve years ago)
that move is called the plaxico
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:06 (twelve years ago)
I think he shot himself but was never confirmed dead? By jove, we've got it.
― Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
Yup:
After Jane dies from an overdose, Donald returns to work as an Air Traffic Controller while still distraught and unwittingly causes a mid-air collision of two airplanes. A pink stuffed animal from the plane crash falls in Walter's pool. Shortly after the incident, Walt hears via his in-car radio that Margolis is rushed to hospital after a self-inflicted gunshot wound; however, Walt turns the radio off before Margolis' fate is revealed.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:20 (twelve years ago)
Would be very interested indeed to see those characters come face-to-face again actually, and it would probably be the catalyst for Jesse finding out about Jane.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)
the only way he could find out about Jane is if Walt tells him. there's no witnesses and no evidence.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)
If Jesse was smart enough to put this convoluted ricin thing together, including the poisoning of his girlfriend's son, he's at least paranoid enough to suspect Walt offed his former girlfriend.
Be very lame if the show pulls a "Carlito's Way"* and has Walt shot by some minor character we forgot about.
* I think this how the movie ends.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)