it was! but other than that, everything we know about the situation comes from the mouth of walter white. it's possible he's telling the truth, and the writers decided there was no need for the kind of "walter gets news" doctor scenes we used to see all the time. but all we really KNOW is that he was on IV recently.
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
well hes taking pills too
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There is a scene with his oncologist where he tells him the big is back but they cut it for time.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
imho she was lowering her arms in solidarity with walt having to get an iv in his arms because he has cancer
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)
*BIG C* excuse me
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)
but to pretend there is NO element of ambiguity here is as dense as saying walt is DEFINITELY lying.
there is no ambiguity for people more familiar with cancer treatment, is the point. anyone who's spent time either on the job treating cancer patients or walking family members or friends through treatment know you can't get cancer treatment by saying "I need the treatment." I'm sure there's Munchausen's people who manage to get chemo but they're as rare as the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker. higher likelihood is that the show is presuming more knowledge about how cancer treatment works than is reasonably fair.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)
the big what it could be any big thing, a mac or a bird
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
the neighbour had a look of cancer about her imo. i paused it and magnified her face.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
i don't mean that you could see she was sick, more that you could see she was thinking about it.
the neighbor represents cancer this is all flynns dream except... he is a different person than walt jr
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)
the way she drops her groceries could suggest everyone thinks he's dead. then it again it could mean he's a wanted criminal on the run. idk innit
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I definitely got the 'thought he was dead' vibe. not that that mean Heisenberg isnt known by all at that point.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)
if we have to go there, i'm fairly familiar with cancer treatment, thank you.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)
i was assuming its cause hes a known criminal
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)
It's not that there's no ambiguity, but some of the things people itt have pointed out as inconsistent with what Walt's said about his cancer being back (he doesn't seem as sick as you'd think for a guy on chemo) are actually quite reasonable if you know something about modern second-line chemotherapy regimens.
― Plasmon, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)
the heisenberg graffiti, the fenced off house (crime scene, possible meth lab)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
maybe she was just shocked at his replacing the bald look with battered gary oldman for s/s 2013
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
but lagoon mac and bird dont start with 'C'.i know what i want to substitute here but ill refrain.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:31 (twelve years ago)
christ, a person whose taken a parent to chemo treatments can also entertain the possibility of walter white being an unreliable narrator.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:31 (twelve years ago)
she was wondering where his pontiac aztek was
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:32 (twelve years ago)
i think 52 y/o walt is pretty cute
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:31 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it was admittedly a joke based on a willful xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:33 (twelve years ago)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:32 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i was wondering this too tbh
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)
i really wish we'd gotten the news of an excised scene with walt's oncologist before i had to have my "witnessed cancer treatment" bonafides questioned for daring to suggest walt might not be giving everyone all the information he has. where did they reveal this outtake, sunny?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)
this, mostly because they juxtaposed it with a scene in the current timeline where he says hi to the neighbor and she pleasantly waves and smiles, right?
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)
well i think the graffitti too def
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:46 (twelve years ago)
or what if theres a hot new teen band or gang called heisenberg
no reason he can't be a known criminal and presumed dead
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
we shd poll like % chance u think theyll fuck it up. i agree, p low imo
what's the InTrade on "Breaking Bad ends appropriately & satisfactory according to the majority of critics and fans."
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
Is Carol the same neighbor he used to check his house for bombs or whatev?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)
seems weird to me that anyone, neighbor or not, would be aware of the intricacies of a criminal enterprise, no matter how well reported. seems more likely she thought he was dead imho, but we'll see.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
Pretty clearly set up that neighbor loses her shit because Walt is a known criminal. Also, I'm a little confused - was someone arguing upthread that the cancer did not come back? Because that's just nuts.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
fence around the house family gone might ask a few questions, might be the talk of the neighborhood, might be a big local news story
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
Like, the derelict house has his nom de guerre sprayed on it. Walt's secret identity is public record. Unless he plays it off as payback from kingpin Hank ... hmm. And fakes his death ... hmmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:57 (twelve years ago)
the derelict house has his nom de guerre sprayed on it
why is everyone making such a big deal of this, it's on the INSIDE of the house
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
conjecture in this thread is ridiculously out of control
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)
it just means people know
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:59 (twelve years ago)
if Jesse is shown spraypainting that on the living room in the next episode I am going to lol @ all of you
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
exactly. currently the cancer only comes up as weapon against others, not as something that's impeding walt in any obvious way. what this means remains to be seen, and I guess you can place your over/under on it if you please, but that's not what i'm doing.
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:58 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
gilligan says in the latest post-show podcast that they went into 5b completely against the idea of walt's cancer returning because it was too easy a way out. "oh look at all this chaos i created. well, late!" but then they changed their minds on it and i cant recall the specifics of why. maybe because it brings walt back to his original reasoning highlighting the contrast between season 1 walt and season 5 walt. also walt can use it in the most assholish way possible to manipulating everyone and everything as weve already seen. like i said above there is actually a scene of the oncologist telling him his cancer is back in a bad way but that scene will have to wait for the bluray.Anyway, I certainly didnt get the feeling that the cancer is going to be what gets him in the end.
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
and it will be well deserved xp
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesse spray painting could easily lead to people knowing, i mean why is the house fenced off, why is the neighbor tripping balls
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
The main thing about the cancer being it allows Walt to persist with the delusion that he's doing this all for his family. Regardless of how bad he gets, you get the feeling Walt does actually believe his own bullshit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:42 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Gilligan and editor Kelley Dixon have been doing a post show podcast since the beginning of season 2. lots of guests including cast, producers, writers, music supervisor, etc that usually relate to that particular episode e.g. Dean Norris was on for the 'One Minute' after show. The source music guy was on after the 'crystal blue persuasion' ep. I love it because they really go into what the character is going through mentally and emotionally at that moment without ever giving away spoilers for future shows. I also love it because they go into detail as to why a certain scene was written, why it was shot in the way it was, all the crazy shit they had to do to get certain shots and i find that stuff interesting. Some of them are pretty funny too. They record these podcasts in post-production so its all still pretty fresh for them.
Anyways, it's called 'Breaking Bad Insider Podcast' and is released on the Monday evening or Tuesday after the Sunday Night BB ep airs.
Link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/breaking-bad-insider-podcast/id311058181?mt=2
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)
why is the neighbor tripping balls
those were oranges.
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)
man, i'd love to hear that stuff later but i so don't want to be let in behind the curtain mid-show
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:18 (twelve years ago)
I'll ask my real q again: how many episodes are left?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
5, right?
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
Yeah we've done 3, so 5 episodes are left -- season is 8 episodes long
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
7
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)
∞
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)
Ok thanks. For some reason I was under the impression that there were only 5 total and we had seen 3/5. Glad to be wrong! Carry on.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)
8 last season, 8 this season. You're safe for now :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
Are we counting Todd and Uncle Jack's Christmas special "Dreaming of a White Power Christmas"?
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Thursday, 29 August 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)