Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

walter and jesse die in the penultimate episode, last episode is just a backdoor pilot for Saul's Fair

That was the working title. They settled on Saul in the Family.

That's Saul, Folks

Saul and Huell get all cash, move to the coast, and open up a creperie in Saulty Dogs

#1 seller is a dessert crepe with blue rock candy on top

It's called the "hey, doesn't this crepe look like it has crystal meth on it?"

creperie has a secret menu -- order the "pinkman" & get (1) delicious crepe w/ chili powder

Crystal Blue Huellsasion

he hands out ricin cigarettes to a bunch of people he needs to kill. all light up and inhale, including walter. he then abruptly rises to go to the bathroom and kneels before the toilet, exhaling smoke into the bowl. the ghost of gus fring enters through the shower wall. "walter," he says, placing his spirit hand on his former accomplice's shoulder. "it doesn't work with smoke."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiyDvysp1do

this, but with walt and walt jr

walt jr becoming a meth hustler would be such a great way to underscore the "drugs are bad" message that has been so lacking on this show

xp YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the episode where skinny pete is all "yo, jesse i want you to meet my new friend...flynn and jesse goes NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

woah unintentional formatting fun there sorry

the whole series is a story Walt Jr. tells his college buds, trying to convince them his dad was a meth kingpin.

Not that hard. All Walt Jr. has to do is record his own tearful confession. "My name is Walter Flynn Junior, I like breakfast and hanging with my friends. For the past year, I have been a meth kingpin genius, manipulating my fool parents into helping me out. By the time you see this, I will be in college, with mad respect from my dorm peers."

But why is there no hacking in this bitch? Or---is there?

Many second and third line chemotherapy regimens for recurrent/progressive disease are less cytotoxic than first line regimens, based on biologics like VEGF inhibitors instead of older agents based on platinum, taxols and anthracyclines. The newer agents tend to produce significantly less GI distress, hair loss, etc, compared to what most people thing of as "chemo".

The IV infusion Walt received was being given in a typical outpatient clinical treatment center. If he's not getting chemo, he'd have to be on IVIG or some other immune modulating drug for an unrelated condition.

There's no way to get chemo by lying to a doctor, you need biopsy proven disease. If he's on chemo, his cancer is back.

So yes, his cancer is back.

there's no "is his cancer back or not" debate going on. all i did was point out that the specific details have so far only come from walt, and that this is different than how they conveyed this kind of information initially. it could mean as little as the writers wanting to avoid sypathetic scenes for walter or a lot, that walter is deceiving people with his sob story to some degree. but to pretend there is NO element of ambiguity here is as dense as saying walt is DEFINITELY lying.

Well, he's already trotted out his cancer twice as manipulation - to Hank, to Junior - so there's always the chance Walt didn't tell anyone so he could keep that arrow in his quiver. It worked for Junior for sure, thought obviously not for Hank.

exactly. currently the cancer only comes up as weapon against others, not as something that's impeding walt in any obvious way. what this means remains to be seen, and I guess you can place your over/under on it if you please, but that's not what i'm doing.

it doesnt only come up as a weapon against others, there was a shot of walt w an iv in his arm, in which case the show would have to be complicit in walt deception, its not just him telling people he has the cancer

which would be pretty weak and not likely whats going on, they were prob all okay these are the shots that demonstrate that walt has cancer

maybe he was hungover and bribed a nurse to give him a bag of saline

they did just lead us on with walt recording his "confession" and intense discussion before we saw what it really was.

im p positive gilligan has even said in interviews and stuff, i think in the run up 2 the 1st half of this season & probably again before this 2nd batch of eps, words to the effect of we (the writers) haven't forgot abt the cancer, etc

well who's arguing they forgot about the cancer

did they forget about dre

i do have a lot of respect 4 cancerous walt digging that desert money hole by himself, he tuff

while i'd like to be able to point out details without having to make a case that it's an unquestionable clue to the grand finale, they've increasingly kept us from knowing what the hell walt's doing (The flash-forwards, the "confession" build-up), so him deceiving us as well as everyone else would be a fairly logical extension of their believe that Walt is NOT a sympathetic figure at this point.

their belief, i mean.

they did just lead us on with walt recording his "confession" and intense discussion before we saw what it really was.

this is dramatic license - they showed the beginning of a confession which actually was a grand and sinister ploy.

showing him with an iv in his arm would have to be a deception given how dumb it'd be if they later concocted a story of him fooling doctors etc, i mean, this just isn't going to happen.

yes there is ambiguity about to what extent his cancer is back, and yes he is of course going to use it to his advantage however he can, but there isn't ambiguity about the sole issue of the cancer being back.

the dramatic issue with the cancer is whether that's what's going to kill him or not, another potential demise/end to the show, giving these last few eps more tension.

i totally agree that the IV would need a damn good explanation, but again i'm not debating whether or not "the cancer is back"

xp yea that is true abt the deception

i guess the neighbor lady dropping her groceries could be abt if theres a new mexico tribune expose abt walt faking cancer & making $ off it or something & shes not seen the heisenberg scrawled inside his house

keep in mind, like this wld be a horrible explanation tho

hell she might think he's dead!

i have so much faith in gilligan at this stage. they are going to smash this out of the park.

How many episodes are left?

we shd poll like % chance u think theyll fuck it up. i agree, p low imo

the way she drops her groceries could suggest everyone thinks he's dead. then it again it could mean he's a wanted criminal on the run. idk innit

we know he showed up with a NH license plate, we know shit got fubar back home, we know he has access to a identity provider. it's possible he's presumed dead after some hardcore madness, and he's come back because a quiet life in new england is not how walt goes out.

it was! but other than that, everything we know about the situation comes from the mouth of walter white. it's possible he's telling the truth, and the writers decided there was no need for the kind of "walter gets news" doctor scenes we used to see all the time. but all we really KNOW is that he was on IV recently.

― da croupier, Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:25 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

well hes taking pills too

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There is a scene with his oncologist where he tells him the big is back but they cut it for time.

imho she was lowering her arms in solidarity with walt having to get an iv in his arms because he has cancer

*BIG C* excuse me

but to pretend there is NO element of ambiguity here is as dense as saying walt is DEFINITELY lying.

there is no ambiguity for people more familiar with cancer treatment, is the point. anyone who's spent time either on the job treating cancer patients or walking family members or friends through treatment know you can't get cancer treatment by saying "I need the treatment." I'm sure there's Munchausen's people who manage to get chemo but they're as rare as the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker. higher likelihood is that the show is presuming more knowledge about how cancer treatment works than is reasonably fair.

the big what it could be any big thing, a mac or a bird

the neighbour had a look of cancer about her imo. i paused it and magnified her face.

i don't mean that you could see she was sick, more that you could see she was thinking about it.

the neighbor represents cancer this is all flynns dream except... he is a different person than walt jr

the way she drops her groceries could suggest everyone thinks he's dead. then it again it could mean he's a wanted criminal on the run. idk innit

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I definitely got the 'thought he was dead' vibe. not that that mean Heisenberg isnt known by all at that point.

if we have to go there, i'm fairly familiar with cancer treatment, thank you.