Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

with the little time there is left i seriously doubt they're going to linger on the ricin/lily of the valley thing. Its a loose end that is tied up and is n ow just a catalyst for jesse coming after walt.

i wonder if hank will come into possession of the video the cartel made of jesse cooking. at the time he did mention to walt that the cops were doing clean up down there and theyd have more info later.

i wonder if the future m16 is for todd and the nazis.

would not have all their rehab covered by insurance

they made it clear that he could get some rehab on his insurance but not THE BEST rehab which is very plausible.

Its a loose end that is tied up and is n ow just a catalyst for jesse coming after walt.

nah the whole first scene of the season was Walt going into his messed up house just to get the ricin

Hank isn't telling anyone at the DEA because his former boss got fired for barbecuing fish on July 4th with Gus Fring. Also lets not forget that Hank had been told repeatedly over the last 3 or 4 seasons to quit the investigation and he blatantly went against orders. It was personal for him long before he even knew it was walt.

According to a famous Hollywood legend, Alfred Hitchcock met Vince Gilligan at a dinner and simply kept saying, "Ah... the ricin cigarette!"

xp m60! little surprised how many people dont like the ricin thing, or couldnt follow it - i saw what was happening as soon as jesse noticed the weed was gone. i like this setup because it means a confrontation b/w walt and jesse that cant end in walt talking him down with his psycho mesmerizing powers again - it wont work this time pal!!!

why would Todd/Nazis come after walt

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nah the whole first scene of the season was Walt going into his messed up house just to get the ricin

― dmr, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:48 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well yeah. i meant jesses ricin cigarette switcharoo. the ricin itself has been around since season 2. lydia nearly scored a dose not so long ago iirc.

because todd is totally gonna fuck up the cook

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why do you think theyre coming to new mexico? xp

still want to know how walt actually poisoned brock. Did he hold a palmful of berries out to the kid at school and brock ate them through the fence like a deer in a petting zoo?

pb&j with the crust cut off, duh

why do you think theyre coming to new mexico?

cuz that's where they're based? i dunno. I guess if Todd fucks up they might NEED Walt, but idg why they would want to kill him

Loving this season so far, although I agree that Jesse's penny-dropping moment was both rushed and contrived. Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.

pointless cliffhanger, we saw the house wasn't burnt up in flashforward last week

I definitely thought the house looked like it had been firebombed or something in the flash forward. Still, Jesse was "only" trying to burn his house down, at this stage there's probably only the Jane reveal that could lead to Jesse actually trying to kill Walt.

Willing to forgive all the Jesse stuff for the scene where Hank realises quite how trapped and implicated he actually is. So so cold from Walt.

Also, Todd shooting his mouth off to random dudes is going to be a big problem.

and in a way this really IS all Hank's fault, if only he hadn't taken Walt along on that ridealong, just to show off what an alpha-male he was

xps the shakey: they moved to houston to work with lydia, declan and pals. i would think theyre com,ing after walt because his precious recipe that saved his ass so many times and is actually going to kick his ass in the form of a couple of neo-nazis and an extraordinarily polite psychopath. Lydia needs the purity to sell to the czech peeps. Todd et al seem to be working with lydia.

Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time?

I thought he and Walt had located it in the first episode of this season - Walt pocketed it while pretending to flush it, no? this whole thing is so convoluted and stupid

i laughed at the tank of methylamine just chillin in the truck stop parking lot

so sunny u think the nazis are gonna try to strongarm him into coming back to work? I can see that.

wait how many episodes are left... 2? ridic.

matt dc those were todd's aryan nation relatives who coordinated the prison killings, not random dudes

shakey there are 5 episodes left

Loving this season so far, although I agree that Jesse's penny-dropping moment was both rushed and contrived. Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.
walt kept the real ricin and planted some house salt in a cigarette in jesse's roomba. jesse found it and walt immediately flushed it.

Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.

No I think it was just supposed to be Jesse realizes he got pickpocketed --> realizes Huell did it --> sees the cig pack like the one the ricin used to be hidden in way back when --> realizes that Huell pickpocketed him THAT time too

so sunny u think the nazis are gonna try to strongarm him into coming back to work? I can see that.

that's what I figure. Lydia asked nicely and got turned down, now Todd's uncle is going to come through saying he won't take no for an answer.

Shakey, yeah, I think so. Its really going to fuck up skylar's whole 'its in the past' defense regarding the kids. It will also give hank a chance to catch Walt for real.

that's a ridiculous cognitive leap

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No I think it was just supposed to be Jesse realizes he got pickpocketed --> realizes Huell did it --> sees the cig pack like the one the ricin used to be hidden in way back when --> realizes that Huell pickpocketed him THAT time too

referring to this btw

That makes more sense but was way too rushed.

sunny nobody moved to houston. declan's from arizona, which is where the underground meth lab was, and where the nazis were driving back from. lydia is in houston because madrigal has an office there.

Not sure I'm following why Saul would give Jesse a phone only to immediately steal it off him either.

I don't think he stole the phone, just the weed.

Not sure I'm following why Saul would give Jesse a phone only to immediately steal it off him either.

― Matt DC, Monday, August 26, 2013 2:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

okay you cant complain about things not making sense if this is what you think happened

that's a ridiculous cognitive leap

totally but that's what the scene was supposed to be. pretty dumb but agree with h4a that I like the confrontation it sets in motion so I'll ignore how goofy it was.

yeah, I get that they needed something to push Jesse over the edge against Walt, this seemed like a random way to do it tho

sunny nobody moved to houston. declan's from arizona, which is where the underground meth lab was, and where the nazis were driving back from. lydia is in houston because madrigal has an office there.

― awake the snorting citizens (discreet), Monday, August 26, 2013 1:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah youre right. i was thinking declans crew was houston too. OK so they are heading into new mexico from arizona. point still stands, i think.

cuz that's where they're based? i dunno. I guess if Todd fucks up they might NEED Walt, but idg why they would want to kill him

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, August 26, 2013 1:56 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

everyone wants to kill walt

the dumbness is just a continuation of the dumbness of the original ricin/lily of the valley bs at the end of s4, we'll never escape it

I actually thought someone mentioned the stolen phone thing on this thread, been skimming a bit. The whole scene didn't make much sense but the poison storyline had been kind of a mess since they originally introduced it.

shakey, it's not a totally ridiculous leap if you're already aware, in flashes, of how often you've been played---and see that car rolling up---

I cant think of a time when jesse has been actively homicidal except when it involved kids getting fucked up. I always dismissed Jesse killing walt in the end just because jesse cant deal with killing but this revelation makes it at least possible?

the overelaborate machinations in the last few eps of s4 are this show's nadir, worse than the plane crash as far as making no goddamn sense whatsoever, everyone forgets this though because half-face was pretty sweet

if something happens to walt's kids, might drive jesse over the edge--?

the only thing the show fudges w/the ricin is, as pplains noted, how walt got the kid to eat the lily of the valley. otherwise its no more ridiculous than walt bombing a nursing home and not being caught on camera/no one noticing him scurrying away from the scene. and its not that big a leap for jesse because hes already suspicious of walt and already suspected that he did this - the groundwork's been laid

cant really judge an ep as a mini-movie, self-contained, no matter how stupid a plot point may seem for a while, just wait for the total effect.

walt planted the bomb -- with hector's connivance -- way before it went off. hector was the one who triggered it. i don't see how that's a loose end

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The thing was that Walt was trying to gaslight Jesse and make him think that he wasn't in control. It wasn't until the end of the whole scheme that he really believed that he'd fucked up, and now he has reason to believe he didn't lose the ricin and that he was fucked with -- imo it was really hard to get Jesse to believe the whole thing to begin with.

jesse not knowing walt is an almost child killer was the loose end

lol pplains

I suppose it maybe wasn't a great idea predicating a crucial plot point on the viewers all being wastemen like me who had enough free time to have re-watch everything in the past couple of months and so kinda remember that whole tangled end to season 4.

Todd chatting about his action movie train scene like an excited kid while omitting one crucial detail was creepy as fuck.