Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

big man, fast hands! plus being so large gives an excuse for while he always seems to be too close

Walt keeps a frozen gun under the soda machine, awesome

huge-L picks locks too

He's a multitalented guy!

Jesse realizing that Walt has been alternating between coaching and gaslighting him is sure some shit, huh

I wish I remembered more about this ricin plotline. I thought Jesse knew that Brock wasn't poisoned by ricin?

― President Keyes, Monday, August 26, 2013 9:51 AM (2 hours ago)

walt had saul take the ricin cigarette so he could convince jesse that gus stole it to poison brock and drive a wedge between walt and jesse when in fact walt had poisoned brock using lily of the valley ugh this whole plotline is so convoluted

TBF it sounds more convoluted than it actually was... Gus was already driving a wedge between Walt and Jesse (Jesse was cooking alone at this point in the superlab), Walt did this to make it look like Gus was "going too far" and to convince Jesse that Gus had to be killed, since Walt was likely to get killed by Gus sooner than later

walt had saul take the ricin cigarette so he could convince jesse that gus stole it to poison brock and drive a wedge between walt and jesse when in fact walt had poisoned brock using lily of the valley ugh this whole plotline is so convoluted

yeah I'm a little bummed they brought it back to center stage

Man that video was such a sweet move.

(xpost) agreed. obviously gonna remain center stage too, Walt going back to get the ricin is the main plot point of the flash forward so far.

yeah I mean I've said this a bunch of times since it became a thing but last night was my whole complaint at the forefront, when hoarse Jesse yells THE RICIN CIGARETTE like the existence of some poison is giant deal, who's gonna get poisoned, who's the poison for - as a way of Jesse understanding "oh, that whole 'Gus poisoned Brock' thing was bullshit" it's ok if awkward but like...yo...there's lot of poisons people can take, THE RICIN CIGARETTE is kinda...like why? Super-chemist Walter White could doubtless work up plenty of comparable shit in the bathroom of a Texaco if necessary.

Calling it now, show ends with Walt finishing breakfast somewhere and lighting up a cigarette, and it turns out it's THE RICIN CIGARETTE and we understand that as he smokes it down to the butt, and half of us are like "great, the show ended like final season X-files stuff" and the other half are like "no, it's awesome, THE RICIN CIGARETTE, give the cigarette its own show"

yeah it was walt's attempt to get jesse back on his side and help him kill gus, but his story was that gus poisoned brock in order to completely turn jesse against walt

stay tuned for previews of next week's days of our ricin

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while i would be bummed if the show vortexes around the ricin cigarette, I still wouldn't be "final season x-files" mad about it

deus ex ricina

Man that video was such a sweet move.

― polyphonic, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:54 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk, i kinda hope it makes hank want 2 murder walt rather than lock him up

video confession was great, totally wrapped up that little problem nicely. also indicates why Hank is not that great a cop, cuz he didn't see it coming

and in a way this really IS all Hank's fault, if only he hadn't taken Walt along on that ridealong, just to show off what an alpha-male he was

lol.

Man that video was such a sweet move.

― polyphonic, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:54 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk, i kinda hope it makes hank want 2 murder walt rather than lock him up

― johnny crunch, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:32 PM (18 seconds ago)

I agree with both parts of this. I wonder what Skyler was thinking while Walt was taping it though -- it had to be realization of even newer lower depths of his badness.

hank was totally ineffectual in getting jesse to talk but he did move jesse further down the path of seeing walt for what he is

tho obv not telling anyone at the DEA what's going on is going to be his downfall

The more fucked he gets, the more I think Hank is going to win.

I assume his ego wouldn't let him do it. He couldn't go to Gomez and say "oh hey Heisenberg is my bro-in-law!" w/out making himself look like a total idiot. also no real evidence.

Hank isn't gonna win. He has no way to win without Jesse or Skyyvodka

also, it's stupid and the show can get away w/ it, but i find it tuff 2 believe a dea agent being shot (on duty? i cant recall) would not have all their rehab covered by insurance

Are you a Canadian

tho obv not telling anyone at the DEA what's going on is going to be his downfall

yeah that plus the medical bills looks pretty bad. I forgot Hank didn't know about that. Receiving nearly $200K in drug profits is not a good look.

with the little time there is left i seriously doubt they're going to linger on the ricin/lily of the valley thing. Its a loose end that is tied up and is n ow just a catalyst for jesse coming after walt.

i wonder if hank will come into possession of the video the cartel made of jesse cooking. at the time he did mention to walt that the cops were doing clean up down there and theyd have more info later.

i wonder if the future m16 is for todd and the nazis.

would not have all their rehab covered by insurance

they made it clear that he could get some rehab on his insurance but not THE BEST rehab which is very plausible.

Its a loose end that is tied up and is n ow just a catalyst for jesse coming after walt.

nah the whole first scene of the season was Walt going into his messed up house just to get the ricin

Hank isn't telling anyone at the DEA because his former boss got fired for barbecuing fish on July 4th with Gus Fring. Also lets not forget that Hank had been told repeatedly over the last 3 or 4 seasons to quit the investigation and he blatantly went against orders. It was personal for him long before he even knew it was walt.

According to a famous Hollywood legend, Alfred Hitchcock met Vince Gilligan at a dinner and simply kept saying, "Ah... the ricin cigarette!"

xp m60! little surprised how many people dont like the ricin thing, or couldnt follow it - i saw what was happening as soon as jesse noticed the weed was gone. i like this setup because it means a confrontation b/w walt and jesse that cant end in walt talking him down with his psycho mesmerizing powers again - it wont work this time pal!!!

why would Todd/Nazis come after walt

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nah the whole first scene of the season was Walt going into his messed up house just to get the ricin

― dmr, Monday, August 26, 2013 12:48 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well yeah. i meant jesses ricin cigarette switcharoo. the ricin itself has been around since season 2. lydia nearly scored a dose not so long ago iirc.

because todd is totally gonna fuck up the cook

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why do you think theyre coming to new mexico? xp

still want to know how walt actually poisoned brock. Did he hold a palmful of berries out to the kid at school and brock ate them through the fence like a deer in a petting zoo?

pb&j with the crust cut off, duh

why do you think theyre coming to new mexico?

cuz that's where they're based? i dunno. I guess if Todd fucks up they might NEED Walt, but idg why they would want to kill him

Loving this season so far, although I agree that Jesse's penny-dropping moment was both rushed and contrived. Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.

pointless cliffhanger, we saw the house wasn't burnt up in flashforward last week

I definitely thought the house looked like it had been firebombed or something in the flash forward. Still, Jesse was "only" trying to burn his house down, at this stage there's probably only the Jane reveal that could lead to Jesse actually trying to kill Walt.

Willing to forgive all the Jesse stuff for the scene where Hank realises quite how trapped and implicated he actually is. So so cold from Walt.

Also, Todd shooting his mouth off to random dudes is going to be a big problem.

and in a way this really IS all Hank's fault, if only he hadn't taken Walt along on that ridealong, just to show off what an alpha-male he was

xps the shakey: they moved to houston to work with lydia, declan and pals. i would think theyre com,ing after walt because his precious recipe that saved his ass so many times and is actually going to kick his ass in the form of a couple of neo-nazis and an extraordinarily polite psychopath. Lydia needs the purity to sell to the czech peeps. Todd et al seem to be working with lydia.

Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time?

I thought he and Walt had located it in the first episode of this season - Walt pocketed it while pretending to flush it, no? this whole thing is so convoluted and stupid

i laughed at the tank of methylamine just chillin in the truck stop parking lot

so sunny u think the nazis are gonna try to strongarm him into coming back to work? I can see that.

wait how many episodes are left... 2? ridic.

matt dc those were todd's aryan nation relatives who coordinated the prison killings, not random dudes

shakey there are 5 episodes left

Loving this season so far, although I agree that Jesse's penny-dropping moment was both rushed and contrived. Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.
walt kept the real ricin and planted some house salt in a cigarette in jesse's roomba. jesse found it and walt immediately flushed it.

Did Jesse think he'd had the ricin cigarette with him all that time? It's been hidden in Walt's house for ages.

No I think it was just supposed to be Jesse realizes he got pickpocketed --> realizes Huell did it --> sees the cig pack like the one the ricin used to be hidden in way back when --> realizes that Huell pickpocketed him THAT time too

so sunny u think the nazis are gonna try to strongarm him into coming back to work? I can see that.

that's what I figure. Lydia asked nicely and got turned down, now Todd's uncle is going to come through saying he won't take no for an answer.

Shakey, yeah, I think so. Its really going to fuck up skylar's whole 'its in the past' defense regarding the kids. It will also give hank a chance to catch Walt for real.

that's a ridiculous cognitive leap

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