Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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lol

wk otm. also, like, let's remember how skylarking was set up in the very first episode. half-hearted birthday handjob and fake bacon. hmm what a mystery that people think she's a nag and a bore! it would be hard for anybody to shake off that first impression.

I found her completely unsympathetic for the entire first season, very weird but in dull, cold ways.

Never really got the hate. She was stressed about money and trying to keep a household together yet still expected to be full of smiles and not 'nag' (or 'remind' if it's a guy doing it) about spending on the right credit card.
I do agree she was cold and not falling over herself to be 'sympathetic' but who is in those circs - I thought it was clear she still cared a lot about him and his wellbeing and that stuff was just setting up that they were in a rut or w/ever.
Walt was just as distant tbh (cringing throughout his party) yet it's ok for him because he has important stuff to worry about.

good job mansplaining to the woman who actually plays the characters and wrote an op-ed about getting death threats yall

what is her usrname

ilx will not be denied its misogyny about this character, skyler. I mean skypager!!! lol!!! what a dumb woman

meanwhile, I wonder what magic words Hank will use to snap Jesse out of his fugue state. I doubt just the sight of him will do it.

good to see the actress who plays skynet fighting back

aero not to skysplain but the multiusage of different spellings/adaptations of the name are because people seem to be torn between Skylar and Skyler
i preferred shi'ar but i'm a nerd

as opposed to dehumanizing the character by taking her name away

can you dehumanize a character

Speaking of skynet

anyway its all kind of a setup, skylr is a foil to walts anti heroic transgressiveness, shes no fun, its all you know drama

also as we all know internet death threats are way overrated, who amongst us has not had their life threatened online, or at least their online life threatened

look it's fiction, "it's all kind of a setup" is sort of one of our assumptions going in I think

well maybe your assumption smart guy, i was just looking for qvc

also as we all know internet death threats are way overrated, who amongst us has not had their life threatened online, or at least their online life threatened

NOTM btw - all kinds of people catch flak online it's true but the kind of shit you get if you work in the public eye can be frightening and it just keeps happening, and it really sucks, fyi

i have to assume lagoon is joking and not actually being a dude downplaying the threats a woman is getting on her life

im sure it sucks, but its always trotted out like death threats DEATH THREATS, as if someone is actually trying to kill you, no it is just a youtube commenter

its a straight hackish move generally employed but embattled politicians and reality tv contestants or whoever

yes that is the problem here, people making too much of death threats

fight the real enemy - people who don't take violent net flame in stride

its not THE PROBLEM whatever that is its just a dumb media trope

man dude you seriously have no clue what it's actually like, do you?

i mean, i "get" the skylar hate but fucking sucks that people can't see how being "no fun"/drab/complacent/controlly/judgey pales to "i'm dying, guess i'll be a unethical martyr, oh wait, i'm alive, guess i'll be scarface" even if the average dude wishes his mid-life crisis would be so cool

or like that when it crosses over to the performer's real life it's kind of a whole different thing...?

"i'm sure it sucks to have people just show up at your fucking house but hey what's the big? exaggerated by the media imo" ― lag∞n

"internet psychos will be internet psychos and will never be real life psychos, so don't sweat it" is a weird stance to take unless your sympathy is with internet psychos

did some internet psycho go to her house

while the music fan who posted my address (via white pages) on a message board after I dared to rib Big Star's Radio City never went further than that, i know another critic who had to get a restraining order so yeah maybe you're being a naive dick right now

but then again we wrote for webzines surely the star of one of the most popular cable dramas on tv has less to worry about

im not at all being naive im perfectly aware that people have even killed celebrities before, and if had any sort of public profile i would def be thinking abt ways to protect myself, that doesnt change the fact that the ratio of internet death threats to actual acts of violence is like a trillion to one

ok you're just being a dick then

and its just often employed in a kind of unexamined manner

ok you're just being a dick then

― da croupier, Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:01 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

youre just being a dick then

i think it's pretty clear that the skylar hate is a symptom of a larger cultural/national misogyny. on the other hand, i dont think the writers went out of their way to write her character in such a way as to directly challenge that misogyny. they seem in some ways trapped by the parameters of the narrative and the roles that the characters are forced to adopt by the logic of the story. she's a believable and sympathetic character, but she's not a directly challenging feminist archetype either.

are the writers obligated to write her character that way? are they obligated to write her character in response to the gross and retrograde response she invokes? i really dont know, but im inclined to say they aren't.

lagoon, i know you're upset that people aren't being cynical about the violent threats they get online but that's no reason to say "i know you are but what am i"

it is

fwiw you could def easily place the way skylar is written in w a long tradition of humorless shrews, so its not surprising that a lot of the responses have been so ugly-y misogynistic, i dont know if the writing itself is overtly sexist but it def easily jibes w a lot of sexist stuff

tho what really prob animates the level of vitriol is that the show is so good

i def disagree w anna gunns description of skylar as strong

you know you just followed "sexist trolls are harmless" with "besides the show was asking for it"

no come on

anyway good drama is usually pretty problematic and yes the internet should prob be shot into the sun

"look at the way they've got her all self-righteous, boring and bourgeois, what did they expect"

i dont think sexist trolls are harmless i just think death threats are often trotted out in a conviently decontextualized manner

now there's a slate pitch

i mean there are so many people saying things on the internet and many of them are horrible, this is the new normal, which is not to say it doesnt matter, just that it requires a little understanding

"look at the way they've got her all self-righteous, boring and bourgeois, what did they expect"

― da croupier, Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if youre going to examine the fans misogyny its seems like it might be worthwhile to ask if the show itself isnt also a lil mysoginsitic