Also Hank is a decent upstanding guy and a successful federal agent but I guess only looks matter, huh?(Even if he was pretty shitty during his physical therapy with his GODAMN MINERALS)
― Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Saturday, 24 August 2013 07:44 (twelve years ago)
I think Kevin James/Leah Remini was believable as a couple and got unfairly lumped in with completely absurd TV couples like the one on According to Jim.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 24 August 2013 08:20 (twelve years ago)
Jim Belushi and any human female is pretty unbelievable.
― here comes the hus-b-ster, i'm the octopus expert (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 24 August 2013 08:39 (twelve years ago)
Anna Gunn on anti-Skyler rage
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:36 (twelve years ago)
what I love about the wedding photo above is how they capture how Hank and Marie would smile and pose.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:46 (twelve years ago)
Kinda hard to make them look younger (thus the hat?) Or have they only been married a few years
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
underneath the hat he has a full afro
― socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 24 August 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
he has comandeered bitch, probably no one else should bother saying it ever again. xxxp
― estela, Friday, August 16, 2013 12:27 AM ...
i wasn't rebuking you, i was remembering how i heard someone say it last week and it reminded me of him but sounded so weak in comparison.
― estela, Friday, August 16, 2013 12:35 AM
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― a solitary sext (sic), Saturday, 24 August 2013 23:38 (twelve years ago)
ya bish
― President Keyes, Sunday, 25 August 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)
Love that Gunn wrote that Op Ed. Not sure people hate the character because she is strong. If anything, she seems driven by fear, including, several seasons ago, the fear of leaving Walt. I mean:
"Vince Gilligan, the creator of “Breaking Bad,” wanted Skyler to be a woman with a backbone of steel who would stand up to whatever came her way, who wouldn’t just collapse in the corner or wring her hands in despair."
This doesn't read right to me. Backbone of steel? Walt has bullied into a lot of her actions. And haven't there been plenty of moments where she has basically been relegated to wringing her hands in despair in the corner? Maybe I need to watch the show again, but Marie has always seemed more hardcore/tenacious/tough per Gunn's description than Skyler.
Also not sure who these people are who are supposedly rooting for Walt, but I guess I'm not surprised they exist.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 August 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)
rooting for Walt isn't that much different from rooting for Michael Corleone (which I'm sure most people do)
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 25 August 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
This gets back to what I was saying about the female characters not being well written. They writers think a woman with a backbone of steel would zombiewalk into a pool at a dinner party.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 25 August 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)
um, she did that to set up groundwork to get the kids out of the house? that was calculated
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 August 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)
I enjoyed reading Gunn's point of view but I think she misses the mark a little there.
both mad men & breaking bad are about protagonists who don't like themselves and their suburban lives, and who create new identities to escape from the realities of their lives. I think that story has a pretty strong vicarious appeal for a lot of people, and since Skyler and Betty represent the forces trying to pull the protagonists back into that life, it's obvious why people react against them.
basically everything interesting that people watch MM & BB for happens outside of the home, so any scene that brings us back into the domestic drama is a downer. and these characters aren't given much of a life beyond the home, so audiences naturally associate them solely with the family drama stuff.
I'm not sure that people are that much easier on walt jr. except that he's barely around so he's easier to ignore.
― wk, Sunday, 25 August 2013 05:40 (twelve years ago)
I think it's more interesting to compare the protagonists and wives in BB & MM to the leading women in Weeds and Orange is the New Black.
I love BB but it has a pretty male-centric pov. To the point that when we finally get a woman involved in the manly world of meth running, she has to hide and plug her ears and eyes when the bad shit goes down.
― wk, Sunday, 25 August 2013 05:50 (twelve years ago)
haha, yup!
― Nhex, Sunday, 25 August 2013 06:18 (twelve years ago)
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― slam dunk, Sunday, 25 August 2013 07:39 (twelve years ago)
lol
wk otm. also, like, let's remember how skylarking was set up in the very first episode. half-hearted birthday handjob and fake bacon. hmm what a mystery that people think she's a nag and a bore! it would be hard for anybody to shake off that first impression.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2013 08:44 (twelve years ago)
I found her completely unsympathetic for the entire first season, very weird but in dull, cold ways.
― estela, Sunday, 25 August 2013 09:11 (twelve years ago)
Never really got the hate. She was stressed about money and trying to keep a household together yet still expected to be full of smiles and not 'nag' (or 'remind' if it's a guy doing it) about spending on the right credit card.I do agree she was cold and not falling over herself to be 'sympathetic' but who is in those circs - I thought it was clear she still cared a lot about him and his wellbeing and that stuff was just setting up that they were in a rut or w/ever.Walt was just as distant tbh (cringing throughout his party) yet it's ok for him because he has important stuff to worry about.
― kinder, Sunday, 25 August 2013 09:44 (twelve years ago)
good job mansplaining to the woman who actually plays the characters and wrote an op-ed about getting death threats yall
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:30 (twelve years ago)
what is her usrname
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:39 (twelve years ago)
ilx will not be denied its misogyny about this character, skyler. I mean skypager!!! lol!!! what a dumb woman
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)
meanwhile, I wonder what magic words Hank will use to snap Jesse out of his fugue state. I doubt just the sight of him will do it.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:13 (twelve years ago)
good to see the actress who plays skynet fighting back
― nashwan, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)
aero not to skysplain but the multiusage of different spellings/adaptations of the name are because people seem to be torn between Skylar and Skyleri preferred shi'ar but i'm a nerd
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
as opposed to dehumanizing the character by taking her name away
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
can you dehumanize a character
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
Speaking of skynet
― pplains, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
anyway its all kind of a setup, skylr is a foil to walts anti heroic transgressiveness, shes no fun, its all you know drama
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
also as we all know internet death threats are way overrated, who amongst us has not had their life threatened online, or at least their online life threatened
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
look it's fiction, "it's all kind of a setup" is sort of one of our assumptions going in I think
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:39 (twelve years ago)
well maybe your assumption smart guy, i was just looking for qvc
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)
NOTM btw - all kinds of people catch flak online it's true but the kind of shit you get if you work in the public eye can be frightening and it just keeps happening, and it really sucks, fyi
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)
i have to assume lagoon is joking and not actually being a dude downplaying the threats a woman is getting on her life
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:45 (twelve years ago)
im sure it sucks, but its always trotted out like death threats DEATH THREATS, as if someone is actually trying to kill you, no it is just a youtube commenter
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
its a straight hackish move generally employed but embattled politicians and reality tv contestants or whoever
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
yes that is the problem here, people making too much of death threats
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
fight the real enemy - people who don't take violent net flame in stride
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
its not THE PROBLEM whatever that is its just a dumb media trope
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
man dude you seriously have no clue what it's actually like, do you?
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
i mean, i "get" the skylar hate but fucking sucks that people can't see how being "no fun"/drab/complacent/controlly/judgey pales to "i'm dying, guess i'll be a unethical martyr, oh wait, i'm alive, guess i'll be scarface" even if the average dude wishes his mid-life crisis would be so cool
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
or like that when it crosses over to the performer's real life it's kind of a whole different thing...?
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
"i'm sure it sucks to have people just show up at your fucking house but hey what's the big? exaggerated by the media imo" ― lag∞n
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)
"internet psychos will be internet psychos and will never be real life psychos, so don't sweat it" is a weird stance to take unless your sympathy is with internet psychos
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)
did some internet psycho go to her house
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)
while the music fan who posted my address (via white pages) on a message board after I dared to rib Big Star's Radio City never went further than that, i know another critic who had to get a restraining order so yeah maybe you're being a naive dick right now
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)
but then again we wrote for webzines surely the star of one of the most popular cable dramas on tv has less to worry about
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
im not at all being naive im perfectly aware that people have even killed celebrities before, and if had any sort of public profile i would def be thinking abt ways to protect myself, that doesnt change the fact that the ratio of internet death threats to actual acts of violence is like a trillion to one
― lag∞n, Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)
ok you're just being a dick then
― da croupier, Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:01 (twelve years ago)