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Nice job iatee!

Kinda bummed by the theros art tbh - wanted something more http://jaddeyekabir.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/sarpedon-vase.jpg

Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)

https://twitter.com/MagicOnline/status/369601413141508096

so happy I wrote an angry email

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

prob still not gonna play

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

i'm still getting crushed in m14 drafts, it's probably mostly variance but it's kind of discouraging. i've had a lot of cool decks that looked powerful but haven't panned out.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:19 (twelve years ago)

I feel like the colors are so disproportionately powerful and the alternate strategies (slivers, act etc.) so linear that you're less likely to end up with an 'okay' deck that you can carefully pilot to wins if you didn't end up w/ blue or green or enough acts or w/e

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's spot-on i think - you want your deck to be as fast as possible or as slow as possible since if you end up in the middle then you need to be packed full of the good green and/or blue cards to win

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

i get mad at the set every time i look at the white commons in my sideboard and there's an angelic wall, griffin sentinel, pillarfield ox, dawnstrike paladin, siege mastodon, and suntail hawk

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

white had started to be ridiculously open lately, although that wasn't as true last night as it had been for about a week or so prior, that i've been consistently X/w. i like the gimmick decks in this so i've been happiest moving into B/w enchantments and B/r sacrifice if they look at all open. my record for this format is much worse than it was for M13 though, partly because i don't think it fits my playstyle very well, i tend to like aggressive tempo decks in limited, i have had a hard time playing both against and with the slow blue and black decks that seem strongest in this format. i hate disperse btw, which makes me sad because unsummon was my most drafted common in M13

the spectacular cow (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

why do you hate disperse, it's one more mana and sometimes you get to do boss moves like disperse the trollhide midcombat

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

I mean...it's no time ebb for sure

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

disperse doesnt gain you the same advantage because the texture of the games is mostly different. im racing less often, im trading creatures in combat less often, i want to remove blockers less often. and i very rarely find situations where playing disperse on a non-creature is helpful. i mean sure sometimes it lets you kill a gladecover scout but ::shrug::. its easier to play around than unsummon was in this set, its harder to disperse/scatter because of the way blue-based decks curve now. this is my xp at least. disperse and frost breath and time ebb just aren't that good.

the spectacular cow (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

creatures in this set are so dumb

the spectacular cow (Lamp), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

my experience is 100% the opposite, the number of my games that have been decided by those cards is astounding

iatee, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:11 (twelve years ago)

i am featured in daily decks today!
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/1304

i feel kinda bad about getting credit for the deck though when i didn't create it myself and the guys who did put a lot of work in on it

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:28 (twelve years ago)

Written by LSV no less! Nice one!

Moodles, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

that seems like a challenging deck to play, i bet it is a lot of fun.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

it was a bit too slow so i ditched it and am back to playing elves. it was real cheap though, only 3 tickets for the entire deck (most pauper decks run you like 30-50)

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)

i haven't really looked at pauper much but 3 tix is right in my sweet spot

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

i can't say i recommend getting into pauper right now to tell the truth, the temporal fissure combo decks are incredibly frustrating to play against and are a huge portion of the field since it's the de facto 'best deck'.

commons-only may sound like a chill format, but as it turns out, the power level of decks is really high and there's a kind of steep learning curve to playing against the broken combo decks without getting your ass kicked

ciderpress, Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:35 (twelve years ago)

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/silvestri-says-m14-by-the-numbers/

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:08 (twelve years ago)

yeah i knew that data was floating around out there, its apparently very against the mtgo TOS to collect it though so it's hard to actually get a copy of it from anyone who has it because they don't want to get in trouble

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:47 (twelve years ago)

finally 3-0'd a m14 8-4 draft:
http://i.imgur.com/RiBr0TG.jpg

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

I had a really sweet w/b enchantment deck last night in swiss but I threw a match due to a lazy duress. white is getting so open that my #2 serra angel wheeled.

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:37 (twelve years ago)

wait is that a foil thune?

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:38 (twelve years ago)

shhh

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:55 (twelve years ago)

how do you like Goblin Diplomats? I've been pondering whether it might have a role in standard.

Moodles, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:12 (twelve years ago)

its fine in limited, i don't see it cracking standard except maybe as a sideboard card vs bigger creature decks

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)

red's 2-drop slot is still loaded after rotation, with burning-tree emissary, young pyromancer, firefist striker, ash zealot, and gore-house chainwalker.

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

I'm still waiting for the Young Pyromancer deck to come along

frogbs, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

there are young pyromancer decks in all formats, what are you looking for?

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)

if they exist I just haven't seen them. it's definitely the M14 card (along with Chandra) that makes me want to build a Standard deck again.

frogbs, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:24 (twelve years ago)

I could see Goblin Diplomat potentially swapping out with Firefist Striker. I see them as filling a similar function.

Moodles, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:25 (twelve years ago)

except firefist striker is also hitting for 2 each time

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:27 (twelve years ago)

in standard it's mostly just played in a mono-red aggro build with 4 spear 4 pillar of flame 4 shock to trigger it (and rebuy chandra's phoenix)

in modern there's a UR delver deck that's been using it, ctrl+f for young pyro here: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/5832067

people have run it in legacy and vintage too though it's a bit sketchier there

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)

is that monowhite lifegain deck just a gimmick deck that got lucky or is it actually viable in modern?

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)

I'm thinking of 'getting into modern'

iatee, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)

that's a real modern deck called 'soul sisters', it's not that good anymore but it gives some decks a very hard time and is dirt cheap for modern so people still play it.

ciderpress, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144849&d=1377576815

looks like the 'returning' mechanic is Radiance

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:02 (twelve years ago)

wait. it's Chroma isn't it?

also, this is the other other mechanic:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=144847&d=1377576805

kinda funny as a lot of people guessed exactly this, seems really cool though. kinda like a reverse Living Weapon.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:05 (twelve years ago)

Yeah that's Chroma. Not a very memorable mechanic but I'm willing to give it another chance. It played ok the first time around.

That second card you posted is one confusing ass card. So if you play it with Bestow, it's an Aura that becomes a creature if the creature it enchants dies?

Vinnie, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:13 (twelve years ago)

Oh weird, if you cast it as an Aura and the creature you target dies in response, the Bestow card will come into play as a creature (according to Matt Tabak). Pretty cool mechanic, but not very intuitive.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:21 (twelve years ago)

interesting - this was posted on MTGSalvation before devotion was spoiled:

Thassa, God of the Sea 2U
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God M
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa isn’t a creature. (Each {U} in the mana costs of permanents you control adds to your devotion to blue.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1.
1U: Target creature you control can’t be blocked this turn.
5/5

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

these new mechanics seem kinda clunky

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:47 (twelve years ago)

also way too expensive to affect limited, at least the examples given

iatee, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)

set seems kinda edh friendly

iatee, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)

well the cards shown are rares and they tend to show the big splashy stuff first. I would imagine that Limited won't be too fast, given everything we know about the set. So I think these cards are all kinda bombish. Bestow will play pretty well, so long as they don't make a lot of it. They're basically auras that don't 2-for-1 you and aren't dead draws if you don't have creatures out, seems like they'll be quite powerful in limited.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:02 (twelve years ago)

Can't remember whether it was officially said or just inferred, but the set is expected to be ROE-levels of slow. Basically every revealed card points in that direction so far. Bestow and Monstrosity both have to be costed pretty high to be fair.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:05 (twelve years ago)

by the way, if that God card actually is real, it's absurd

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)

wait so do the auras turn into creatures even if the first-aura'd creature dies two turns later?

iatee, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

otherwise they still can get you two for one'd and that angel doesn't seem much better than serra angel

iatee, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)


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