Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

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She bitching about Walt buying Walt, Jr another car

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:37 (twelve years ago)

the obvious choice is for scarlip to ask for immunity and spill the beans on walt, and maybe even keep the money, i think tho skylar really really doesnt want to be exposed and humiliated publicly, which is understandable but her other option is to side with the murderous psychopath and prob having everything turn out much much worse

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:43 (twelve years ago)

Because unless she changes her mind and does decice talk to the cops, what reason would Walt have to kill her?

suspicion that people MIGHT talk has been plenty reason for Walt to kill somebody so far

dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:45 (twelve years ago)

self-preservation seems to be her number one motive

keeping rather than losing the giant pile of money also seems to be a motivating factor

dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:46 (twelve years ago)

Also, I liked how the diner scene showed that Hank, probably the most sympathetic main character in the show, isn't alway as great as he'd like others to think... It was pretty obvious that his biggest interest was not to help Skyler but to catch Walt, that's why he took the recorder out as soon as he had the chance, he probably thought Skyler being in a shock state would be the best opportunity for him to get a confession out of her.

the obvious choice is for scarlip to ask for immunity and spill the beans on walt

I know this card is often pulled in movies and TV, but does American law really work like that? If the prosecution finds out Skyler knew where the money came from and willingly helped Walt launder it, would her testifying against him really give her immunity?

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)

Because unless she changes her mind and does decice talk to the cops, what reason would Walt have to kill her?

suspicion that people MIGHT talk has been plenty reason for Walt to kill somebody so far

Well yeah, but you'd think that suspicion will go away when the cops won't come knocking on their door the next morning?

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)

not really? she could change her mind and spill the whole story to Hank at any point.

dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)

I know this card is often pulled in movies and TV, but does American law really work like that? If the prosecution finds out Skyler knew where the money came from and willingly helped Walt launder it, would her testifying against him really give her immunity?

― Tuomas, Monday, August 19, 2013 3:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its not guaranteed but it could happen sure, particularly if she portrayed herself as walts victim, offering reduced sentences using informants etc is prob the single biggest way law enforcement gathers evideince

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)

does American law really work like that?

short answer is yes, it does work like that. long answer has some caveats and stuff. (xpost)

dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)

good question... definitely by TV rules, though it makes sense, her only crimes are really money laundering and harassment, vs. like a dozen counts of murder and racketeering

Nhex, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)

tbh Tuomas I don't think anyone on this show is sympathetic.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)

not really? she could change her mind and spill the whole story to Hank at any point.

I guess so, but the bathroom scene made it feel like Walt really believed her when she said she isn't gonna talk. I mean, he even offered her the chance of him giving himself up, but Skyler still said no.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)

good question... definitely by TV rules, though it makes sense, her only crimes are really money laundering and harassment, vs. like a dozen counts of murder and racketeering

Don't forget that if the whole thing goes to court, Ted Beneke will probably come out and testify against Skyler too.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)

Huell and Bill Burr otm

polyphonic, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)

they really shouldve taken the money

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

And if eyebrow man is gonna tell the court how the Whites acquired his car wash, that isn't gonna help Skyler sound like a victim either.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)

(xxpost)

Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)

Also, I liked how the diner scene showed that Hank, probably the most sympathetic main character in the show, isn't alway as great as he'd like others to think

he did beat jesse to a pulp

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)

she just has to say he threatened to kill her and so forth

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)

Beneke's another one who'll keep his mouth shut if he knows what's good for him.

Walt looked so fragile in that bathroom floor scene.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

I think almost everyone on the show is sympathetic.

ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:06 (twelve years ago)

Sympathy has little to do with why I like or dislike shows so I'm no judge.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)

theyre all sympathetic in their own way even walt who is a psychopath because he did what lies in all our hearts and went gangster

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)

I love how Hank starts off being very sympathetic to Sk'lar and within less than a minute he's hinting to her how she needs to snitch and has a recorder in pretty much no time at all. He turns from sympathetic ear into pig cop and she's got the "fuck you, piggy" instinct.

Notice she said absolutely nothing when Marie was talking to her, either. Her own sister could be wearing a wire, she's not gonna say shit.

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)

ya hank really blew it he needed to take step back

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)

enjoyed the creative license of showing Walt digging a big-ass hole in the middle of the desert all by himself

ain't no dude digging a hole that big within a day

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)

hes v determined

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)

but sometimes he collapses (he has cancer u know)

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

lol I don't find Hank very sympathetic either myself - he's a blowhard and not half-as-good a cop as he makes himself out to be

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)

hank is a really good investigator tho it seems like, unless he has to speak mexican or deal w exploding heads

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)

I often wonder if this show can pull off the task it seems to set for itself--in terms of making Walt the villain and really turning the audience against him rather than just get us to intellectually agree he is immoral or whatever--since (if indeed that is what they are trying to do) that would set them against pretty powerful narrative forces and a charismatic performance. I think even now ("tread lightly") there's an illicit thrill in Walt's gangsterisms that sorta renders the moralism of the show moot.

ryan, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)

he's such a good investigator it took him over a year to figure out his bro-in-law is a big-time meth dealer

xp

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)

if you only have that one data point then sure

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)

I find Hank sympathetic in that he's a decent family man and good with his nephew and niece.

He and the entire DEA were obnoxious as fuck for so long, posing next to corpses and cracking jokes about drug dealers and being general cocky pieces of shit. When Walt hit the big time and got so far out ahead while the DEA was getting played by Gus (and Hank was getting shot) they made him more sympathetic in that he was less of a cocky loser and more of just a loser.

but yeah, speaking mexican and exploding heads

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)

yeah I agree w all that

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)

the thing with that is that Walt being under Hank's nose all along is that Hank would probably have caught Walt if he was doing his off-the-books detective work of season 4 with anyone but Walt.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)

ain't no dude digging a hole that big within a day

yeah, that annoyed me too

wk, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)

I don't have a giant home theater complex and I've been playing loud music in clubs for the last 20 years. Fuck do I ever hate episodes where half the dialogue is whispering.

― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh man this annoys the crap out of me esp since we can only watch when the kids are asleep so we turn it up to hear the dialogue then boom a commercial or music or something is suddenly loud as fuck. by the time you turn it down theyre back to whispering again. i ended up rewatching season 5 part 1 one night with closed captioning on

"Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

I don't have AMC so I watched it over lunch with headphones on like a bad employee, worked for me

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:27 (twelve years ago)

seems like they could just make the whispers loud when they mix it why not

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)

dynamic range and the loudness war. google it

diamonddave85, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:32 (twelve years ago)

oh i know I KNOW

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)

the hole digging was TOTALLY ridiculous
dude couldn't have done that even in his prime

no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)

It's kind of what dudes in their late teens/early 20s who are all like "yeah, I've never done <some physical thing> but if I had to I could totally flip out and do it"

Kind of like how they watch The Godfather or w/e and think they could definitely be a crime boss, if they really wanted

carlos danger zone (mh), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)

i assume the louboutins were for the trademark SPLASH OF COLOR that gilligan likes

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)

i had images of walt getting his shirt caught on one of those huge barrels o'cash and being dragged into the hole and crushed like a bug

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)

rest of season just long time-lapse shots of walt's decomposing corpse

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

He totally could've dug that whole. Just needs some meth.

dan selzer, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)

maybe he was there for days. making a fun weekend of it like he did back in the day with jesse and the rv.

Clyde One DJ Diane “Knoxy” Knox-Campbell (Merdeyeux), Monday, 19 August 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)

i feel like its not impossible but he would prob faint after

lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)


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