feel like maybe Jesse's the one guy Hank might be able to get to because Jesse is also desperate in an I-don't-know-what-to-do way. also Jesse feels guiltier than anybody else so he could be looking to expiate his guilt by getting Walt arrested. but yeah Hank's interrogation techniques kinda telegraph "I don't give a shit what happens to you I just want a win here"
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)
maybe hanks gathered himself a little by the time he talks to jesse
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:05 (twelve years ago)
seems like hes gonna chicken out on that conference call no
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)
this could get real bad for hank
GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT NEXT WEEK HUH
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)
DUN DUN
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)
But yeah Jesse has said, what, like six words over the last two episodes? Who knows with that guy.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
id be surprised if jesse broke, feel like all of them walt hank jesse skylord and marie are tangled so bad in this web of secrecy, the truth is prob gonna come out in a way with none of them in control or looking good, of course as mentioned this show is usually surprising
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
it's not so much Hank's approach so much as i'm pretty sure Jesse still hates his crusty ass.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
Probably both
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
jesse seems generally pretty committed to the code of the streets too
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
jesse breaking is way too easy; this somehow digging Hank into an even worse situation with the DEA seems more likely to me
― Nhex, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
I didn't buy that Hank would go to jail if he spent a few more days getting his case together and someone caught Heisenberg first
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:35 (twelve years ago)
yeah who knows but its def dangerous footing
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
what if hank goes to jail and walt gets off free
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
considering a criminal enterprise paid for his physio, it could look very bad if he sits on it.
xpost - interesting thought!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
i like the way this situation is cementing the marie-hank bond
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
yeah, this is gonna be great for their family
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
this show really enjoys having people fall face first onto hard floors and it disturbs me every time.
― SKYLER FFS SKYLER SKYLER SKYLER (Merdeyeux), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:01 (twelve years ago)
hank really hit the deck
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
my favorite thing with Skl'r this episode was that moment at the end where she tells Walt, "Well everything Hank's saying is just suspicion, there's no facts"
Like, yeah she panics at first with Hank but it's reasonable that she would be in OHFUCKOHSHIT mode because she's probably been dreading this from day one and she can't distance herself enough to just chill and not show her cards and see what the crux is because so much is at stake for her...but when she uses the next few hours to chew everything over, she's ice cold.
aero otm, btw.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
stop trying to make feminism happen
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
dealwithit.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUBnxqEVKlk
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)
literally skylars every action in this ep are symptoms of being mindfucked and debased by a sociopath, that or she was herself a sociopath the entire time, either way
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)
or she was herself a sociopath the entire time
Not an unpopular opinion among the BB fanbase.
― pplains, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
and her plan is terrible! my brother in law the obsessive dea agent is on to us but maybe we can just ride it out
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:33 (twelve years ago)
maybe she just likes having a garage full of fat stacks?!
xpost
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
where the hell is Walt Jr
― sean gramophone, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
prob slept over louis house
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)
Saul was in top form in this ep
― polyphonic, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
NOTM at all! she's has actual agency, that's what's interesting about how where the show's been taking the character
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
how
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 August 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
she recommitted herself to an abusive relationship and aligned her interests with those of a murderous psychopath, but it was her choice i guess
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)
overall the theme is "protect your family - all else can go to the devil" - thus Skylar's protection of walt in the end
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
closeups of her pumps = Lydia means trouble― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, August 18, 2013 8:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Louboutins no less!
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)
"protect your family - all else can go to the devil"
wellll, what constitutes "family" and "protect"... Walt has totally endangered his family, destroyed it even.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Monday, August 19, 2013 3:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
doesnt seem quite her style but i guess we know shes putting that drug money to good use
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)
lol daria i just saw your louboutin post
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
feel like it could be the third mention itt or maybe i am just thinking of blogs
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
Walt - Dead. Probably Jesse's doing.Skyler - Dead. Not sure but doubt it will be Walt himself. Maybe someone walt paid? Jesse - Alive and prob out of the bizMike - DeadHank - AliveMarie - AliveWalt Jr - AliveHolly - Alive and raised a SchraderSaul - Not sure yet but prob alive― 47 minutes, 7 seconds and 4 frames (sunny successor), Monday, August 13, 2012 10:18 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 47 minutes, 7 seconds and 4 frames (sunny successor), Monday, August 13, 2012 10:18 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Predictions from over a year ago holding up nicely!
― "Max's Original Starship" Vol. 3 (sunny successor), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)
What's the alternative, though? She knows that if Walt is caught, she'll probably go down with him... What with all their laundry business and everything, it'd be pretty hard to prove she knew nothing about Heisenberg, and Hank probably couldn't stop her from getting prosecuted too. So when Hank put that recorder on the table, he pretty much revealed his hand to her: he has nothing on Walt unless she talks. With the cancer coming back, she figures her best alternative is to wait for Walt to die, to ride it out.
I think VegemiteGrrl is right that the moment Hank mentions the cancer is when Skyler figures out this is what she could do. Yeah, it's selfish, but that's how she's portrayed throughout the series. BB is hardly a feminist show, but at least what she does here is consistent with her character; self-preservation seems to be her number one motive, and at the moment she seems to think the best chances for that are to side with her sociopath husband. I thought the scene where Walt is ready to give himself up but Skyler says no was nicely done: just proves how far down the rabbit hole she's gone by now.
Also, I think this episode kinda pulls the rug under the "Walt will kill Skyler" theory, no? Because unless she changes her mind and does decice talk to the cops, what reason would Walt have to kill her?
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)
She bitching about Walt buying Walt, Jr another car
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2013 19:37 (twelve years ago)
the obvious choice is for scarlip to ask for immunity and spill the beans on walt, and maybe even keep the money, i think tho skylar really really doesnt want to be exposed and humiliated publicly, which is understandable but her other option is to side with the murderous psychopath and prob having everything turn out much much worse
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:43 (twelve years ago)
Because unless she changes her mind and does decice talk to the cops, what reason would Walt have to kill her?
suspicion that people MIGHT talk has been plenty reason for Walt to kill somebody so far
― dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:45 (twelve years ago)
self-preservation seems to be her number one motive
keeping rather than losing the giant pile of money also seems to be a motivating factor
― dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:46 (twelve years ago)
Also, I liked how the diner scene showed that Hank, probably the most sympathetic main character in the show, isn't alway as great as he'd like others to think... It was pretty obvious that his biggest interest was not to help Skyler but to catch Walt, that's why he took the recorder out as soon as he had the chance, he probably thought Skyler being in a shock state would be the best opportunity for him to get a confession out of her.
the obvious choice is for scarlip to ask for immunity and spill the beans on walt
I know this card is often pulled in movies and TV, but does American law really work like that? If the prosecution finds out Skyler knew where the money came from and willingly helped Walt launder it, would her testifying against him really give her immunity?
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)
Well yeah, but you'd think that suspicion will go away when the cops won't come knocking on their door the next morning?
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)
not really? she could change her mind and spill the whole story to Hank at any point.
― dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)
― Tuomas, Monday, August 19, 2013 3:51 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its not guaranteed but it could happen sure, particularly if she portrayed herself as walts victim, offering reduced sentences using informants etc is prob the single biggest way law enforcement gathers evideince
― lag∞n, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
does American law really work like that?
short answer is yes, it does work like that. long answer has some caveats and stuff. (xpost)
― dmr, Monday, 19 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)