American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

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lol, no.

also, i have an hdhp myself, tho it is subsidized via employer hsa contributions. the whole thing is annoying and time consuming but i'm glad the administrative burdens have been shifted where they belong, the consumer. this causes me to call various "help" lines full of vitriolic anger make rational market based decisions in my rational self-interest.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:37 (twelve years ago)

totally rational, that's me apparently

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:38 (twelve years ago)

The whole thing is indeed totally annoying, especially if you want to pretend to "shop around" and "find the best rates" like a good little consumer.

I'm unhappy that my healthcare costs will continue to rise but that's just sort of reality and I fully expected that. I just didn't expect the president to be so disingenuous when he was lying saying things like, "If you like your plan, you get to keep it."

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)

Califorrnia, as an early joiner to the exchanges, will see rates go down. Fight the real enemy.

pas mauvaise mais qui donne envie d’en entendre de la bonne. (Michael White), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)

Also, as a voluntarist, I'd like to see jury duty disappear along with military service. If God and our national will won't protect us, I don't see why we shouldn't do away with the innovations of the 12th Century.

pas mauvaise mais qui donne envie d’en entendre de la bonne. (Michael White), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

u sure you're coming from a voluntarist position or do you just really hate having to do jury duty? I mean, it totally sucks I agree, but like -- the only people who would volunteer for juries would be self-employed libertarian dads and grandmas who watch Nancy Grace.

Kissin' Cloacas (Viceroy), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)

lol I had no idea about this shit

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/cory_booker_waywire.php

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)

I wonder if this is the first Senate race where both nominees have documentaries about them running for mayor

President Keyes, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 11:17 (twelve years ago)

The url for Pareene's story says it all: http://www.salon.com/2013/08/13/dont_vote_for_cory_booker/

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:07 (twelve years ago)

what Booker has going for him: he's not Lonegan (who combines the worst traits of Chris Christie, Rand Paul and ... well, stereotypical Jersey assholishness).

i voted for Pallone.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:20 (twelve years ago)

got standard fundraising spam "from" Sen Gillibrand with the subject line "Cory." Count the annoying buzzwords!

Cory will be a great partner who will work with me to bolster New York and New Jersey families so that we can overcome the challenges our states face. Our values are Cory’s values....

As mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Cory has reduced crime, created jobs and revitalized the city’s downtown. He has a track record of getting results.

want to destroy the Democratic Party so so much

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)

so Booker is as disgusting as Schumer and Harold Ford, Jr, right

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)

Ed Kilgore in Washington Monthly:

To detractors, he’s an unholy combination of Harold Ford, Jr. and Joe Lieberman, beholden to Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:42 (twelve years ago)

In a financial disclosure filed last month, Booker revealed that his stake in Waywire was worth between $1 million and $5 million, making it his biggest asset.

“Cory is the inspiration architect,” Ross told the Times. “He really is the thought-leader soul part of the business.”

one yankee sympathizer masquerading as a historian (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 14:50 (twelve years ago)

corporate governance by way of oprah and the secret

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

Oprah, thought-leader of the millennium.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_08/first_glimpse_of_the_struggle046379.php

I’d guess that before the day is out it’s going to occur to some news-starved Gotham-centric scribbler to do a piece contrasting de Blasio and Cory Booker as the twin poles of debate in this upcoming Struggle for the Soul of the Democratic Party. Or maybe it won’t be written until such time as de Blasio actually wins. Or maybe another New York figure named Hillary Clinton will manage to put off the Struggle for the Soul once again. It’s hard to say right now. But at some point internal differences, real and symbolic, sharp and focused or vague yet pervasive, will boil over into public. After all, conservatives can’t have all the factional fun.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I have no caveats about voting for de Blasio as the "most liberal" of the mayoral options here, given that his rivals are some combo of corporatists, phonies, and crooks, but since BdB was HRC's campaign manager in her Senate election in 2000 I'm not exactly counting on him being some left-wing savior.

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:24 (twelve years ago)

personally, i don't know why either Holt or Pallone couldn't have dropped out and endorsed the other since they essentially split the liberal vote. maybe there's some rivalry b/w them to which i'm not privy -- and it might not have mattered anyway, given Booker's Wall Street- and Silicon Valley-funded war chest large campaign funds and media-whoring name recognition.

still, better him than a bona fide Teabagger/asshole like Lonegan.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 August 2013 02:50 (twelve years ago)

Bryan Fischer, Earth-God liaison, on the events leading up to the photoshopping of obama into the photo of the situation room on the night of the bin laden raid:

"Frankly I think that got photoshopped in after deal. I think Obama's approach was, 'Hey, if this thing goes south, I don't want to be in the room. I don't want to be anywhere near this thing if it blows up. If it succeeds, if it's an outstanding success, then photoshop me in there.'"

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/bryan-fischer-obama-was-photo-shopped-into-bin?ref=fpb

i love the idea of obama actually saying that

Z S, Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)

I am puzzled as to who he would trust with such a photoshopping mission. It would be like handing that person a key to your presidency.

Aimless, Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

now we know why Sean C hasn't been around lately

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

http://www.progressive.org/alec-nation
http://billmoyers.com/2013/08/15/a-dem-adrift-in-alec-land/

haven't read these yet, but, awesome

R'LIAH (goole), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

Sequester:

Head Start programs across the country eliminated services for 57,000 children in the coming school year to balance budgets diminished by the federal sequester, cutting 1.3 million days from Head Start center calendars and laying off or reducing pay for more than 18,000 employees, according to federal government data scheduled for release Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/head-start-eliminated-services-to-57000-children-in-us-as-a-result-of-sequester/2013/08/18/e1181810-06d9-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html?hpid=z2

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 August 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)

aaaand:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/us/us-workers-are-grounded-by-deep-cuts.html?ref=politics&_r=0

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

x-post--interesting stuff re ALEC but does she have ideas re how progressives can better organize

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 August 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)

lol @ under educated hungry children

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 19 August 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

cruz is one of those dudes who looks 15 years older than he is

k3vin k., Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:56 (twelve years ago)

It's the hair. Look to the hair, Orwell always said.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:02 (twelve years ago)

i think it's the droopy face. he looks awful - wasn't he supposed to be like a handsome, smooth-talking debating genius who was going to save the GOP?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:04 (twelve years ago)

I don't know--I've never seen KC debate.

clemenza, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:05 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure m first step running for federal office in USA would be to renounce any other citizenship but I guess he needed to keep those options open.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:06 (twelve years ago)

he'd make a great Canadian Senator

Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:38 (twelve years ago)

can i sublet cruz's canadian citizenship?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:56 (twelve years ago)

what an exciting 8 months you would have

Pope Cuddlestein (symsymsym), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:41 (twelve years ago)

seriously, i'd be interested to hear his rationale for maintaining his canadian citizenship to this point. he has a legit interesting family backstory that logically would bear upon his decision. or, he could simply say "forget my backstory, why WOULDN'T you want dual citizenship?" which i think is legit, too.

you're better off in a supersonic jet (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:17 (twelve years ago)

he literally didn't know he had dual citizenship until reporters pointed it out to him the other day

balls, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so otm

the husbster (self-professed octopus expert) (stevie), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 07:27 (twelve years ago)

Is there a thread for drones?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/the-killing-machines-how-to-think-about-drones/309434/

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)

Heathcare is awesome
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_call/2013/08/ups-to-drop-15000-spouses-from.html

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 03:05 (twelve years ago)

in my fantasy universe this strengthens the argument for single-payer!

i too went to college (silby), Thursday, 22 August 2013 03:14 (twelve years ago)

xxp Rolling Drone Thread

Mordy , Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)

Heathcare is awesome
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_call/2013/08/ups-to-drop-15000-spouses-from.html

― the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seems from reading the article that this has nothing to do with Obamacare and is just UPS cutting costs.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:34 (twelve years ago)

I don't really get the big deal, apparently they're only revoking coverage if the spouse works somewhere else that also provides similar coverage?

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 22 August 2013 05:39 (twelve years ago)

I guess it's only a big deal to those spouses who whose family insurance costs will go up when they have to purchase "similar" coverage that costs more.

UPS says it's related directly to Obamacare: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/business/ups-to-end-health-benefits-for-spouses-of-some-workers.html

Let's please stop pretending that Obamacare is not directly raising costs for some families, because it is for me.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:57 (twelve years ago)

Several health care experts, however, said they believed the company was motivated by a desire to hold down health care costs, rather than because of cost increases under the law.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:00 (twelve years ago)

We should trust the unnamed experts and not UPS? And that "cost increases under the new law" are should simply be absorbed by UPS as if they are inconsequential?

Seems to me that if we want to take the cynical route on this, we should think that UPS is only using Obamacare as a scapegoat to cut costs. Pretty sure I can find a health care expert out there who thinks that UPS wants to cut costs simply to enrich its shareholder masters.

the rofflestomper (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:33 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure that health care expert would be right, too.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:47 (twelve years ago)


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