American Politics Thread 2013: I'm a cool Rodham grandma in the USA

If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep it. Except when you probably can't.

there's nothing there that wasn't widely known 2 years ago. people who are avoiding paying into the system are going to be the ones adjusting

shit, 4 years ago. how old am i?

FYI, I have paid into the private insurance system for myself and family for the last six years on my own for a plan similarly described in that article. That plan did not face likely elimination two years ago.

is there any evidence to support the idea that people with skimpy high deductible plans increase costs in the long run, by deferring care or preventive medicine routines?

Are you insinuating that I defer care or preventive medicine routines because I have high deductible plans?

Just checking.

lol, no.

also, i have an hdhp myself, tho it is subsidized via employer hsa contributions. the whole thing is annoying and time consuming but i'm glad the administrative burdens have been shifted where they belong, the consumer. this causes me to call various "help" lines full of vitriolic anger make rational market based decisions in my rational self-interest.

totally rational, that's me apparently

The whole thing is indeed totally annoying, especially if you want to pretend to "shop around" and "find the best rates" like a good little consumer.

I'm unhappy that my healthcare costs will continue to rise but that's just sort of reality and I fully expected that. I just didn't expect the president to be so disingenuous when he was lying saying things like, "If you like your plan, you get to keep it."

Califorrnia, as an early joiner to the exchanges, will see rates go down. Fight the real enemy.

Also, as a voluntarist, I'd like to see jury duty disappear along with military service. If God and our national will won't protect us, I don't see why we shouldn't do away with the innovations of the 12th Century.

u sure you're coming from a voluntarist position or do you just really hate having to do jury duty? I mean, it totally sucks I agree, but like -- the only people who would volunteer for juries would be self-employed libertarian dads and grandmas who watch Nancy Grace.

lol I had no idea about this shit

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/cory_booker_waywire.php

I wonder if this is the first Senate race where both nominees have documentaries about them running for mayor

The url for Pareene's story says it all: http://www.salon.com/2013/08/13/dont_vote_for_cory_booker/

what Booker has going for him: he's not Lonegan (who combines the worst traits of Chris Christie, Rand Paul and ... well, stereotypical Jersey assholishness).

i voted for Pallone.

got standard fundraising spam "from" Sen Gillibrand with the subject line "Cory." Count the annoying buzzwords!

Cory will be a great partner who will work with me to bolster New York and New Jersey families so that we can overcome the challenges our states face. Our values are Cory’s values....

As mayor of Newark, New Jersey, Cory has reduced crime, created jobs and revitalized the city’s downtown. He has a track record of getting results.

want to destroy the Democratic Party so so much

so Booker is as disgusting as Schumer and Harold Ford, Jr, right

Ed Kilgore in Washington Monthly:

To detractors, he’s an unholy combination of Harold Ford, Jr. and Joe Lieberman, beholden to Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

In a financial disclosure filed last month, Booker revealed that his stake in Waywire was worth between $1 million and $5 million, making it his biggest asset.

“Cory is the inspiration architect,” Ross told the Times. “He really is the thought-leader soul part of the business.”

corporate governance by way of oprah and the secret

Oprah, thought-leader of the millennium.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2013_08/first_glimpse_of_the_struggle046379.php

I’d guess that before the day is out it’s going to occur to some news-starved Gotham-centric scribbler to do a piece contrasting de Blasio and Cory Booker as the twin poles of debate in this upcoming Struggle for the Soul of the Democratic Party. Or maybe it won’t be written until such time as de Blasio actually wins. Or maybe another New York figure named Hillary Clinton will manage to put off the Struggle for the Soul once again. It’s hard to say right now. But at some point internal differences, real and symbolic, sharp and focused or vague yet pervasive, will boil over into public. After all, conservatives can’t have all the factional fun.

I have no caveats about voting for de Blasio as the "most liberal" of the mayoral options here, given that his rivals are some combo of corporatists, phonies, and crooks, but since BdB was HRC's campaign manager in her Senate election in 2000 I'm not exactly counting on him being some left-wing savior.

personally, i don't know why either Holt or Pallone couldn't have dropped out and endorsed the other since they essentially split the liberal vote. maybe there's some rivalry b/w them to which i'm not privy -- and it might not have mattered anyway, given Booker's Wall Street- and Silicon Valley-funded war chest large campaign funds and media-whoring name recognition.

still, better him than a bona fide Teabagger/asshole like Lonegan.

Bryan Fischer, Earth-God liaison, on the events leading up to the photoshopping of obama into the photo of the situation room on the night of the bin laden raid:

"Frankly I think that got photoshopped in after deal. I think Obama's approach was, 'Hey, if this thing goes south, I don't want to be in the room. I don't want to be anywhere near this thing if it blows up. If it succeeds, if it's an outstanding success, then photoshop me in there.'"

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/bryan-fischer-obama-was-photo-shopped-into-bin?ref=fpb

i love the idea of obama actually saying that

I am puzzled as to who he would trust with such a photoshopping mission. It would be like handing that person a key to your presidency.

now we know why Sean C hasn't been around lately

http://www.progressive.org/alec-nation
http://billmoyers.com/2013/08/15/a-dem-adrift-in-alec-land/

haven't read these yet, but, awesome

Sequester:

Head Start programs across the country eliminated services for 57,000 children in the coming school year to balance budgets diminished by the federal sequester, cutting 1.3 million days from Head Start center calendars and laying off or reducing pay for more than 18,000 employees, according to federal government data scheduled for release Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/head-start-eliminated-services-to-57000-children-in-us-as-a-result-of-sequester/2013/08/18/e1181810-06d9-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html?hpid=z2

aaaand:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/us/us-workers-are-grounded-by-deep-cuts.html?ref=politics&_r=0

x-post--interesting stuff re ALEC but does she have ideas re how progressives can better organize

lol @ under educated hungry children

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/revoking-ted-cruzs-canadian-citizenship-may-take-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-l5FyA3pgo

cruz is one of those dudes who looks 15 years older than he is

It's the hair. Look to the hair, Orwell always said.

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

i think it's the droopy face. he looks awful - wasn't he supposed to be like a handsome, smooth-talking debating genius who was going to save the GOP?

I don't know--I've never seen KC debate.

Pretty sure m first step running for federal office in USA would be to renounce any other citizenship but I guess he needed to keep those options open.

he'd make a great Canadian Senator

can i sublet cruz's canadian citizenship?

what an exciting 8 months you would have

seriously, i'd be interested to hear his rationale for maintaining his canadian citizenship to this point. he has a legit interesting family backstory that logically would bear upon his decision. or, he could simply say "forget my backstory, why WOULDN'T you want dual citizenship?" which i think is legit, too.

he literally didn't know he had dual citizenship until reporters pointed it out to him the other day

I love "Please Don't Go," but looking at that video, I think KC is just entering his coked-out, Dirk Diggler "You Got the Touch" phase.

― clemenza, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:02 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so otm

Is there a thread for drones?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/09/the-killing-machines-how-to-think-about-drones/309434/

Heathcare is awesome
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_call/2013/08/ups-to-drop-15000-spouses-from.html

in my fantasy universe this strengthens the argument for single-payer!

xxp Rolling Drone Thread