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caek u do astrophysics? I work for ApJ.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

I could post a lot of graphs and visuals but I would be breaking copyright big time.

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

will u accept my paper y/n? Actually, it's going to MNRAS because of page charges ; ) Are you in production or editorial or marketing? I used to work in editorial for IoP in Bristol.

Posting figures = fair use (probably), and most of them are on the arXiv anyway, surely.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

lol IOP... they're taking our jobs! I work for the UofC Press, on peer review and production. My old boss just accepted a position at IOP in the states, I'm hoping to get headhunted by him eventually :D

You're probably right about the figures, but I'd rather not chance it. It'd be kind of a shitty thing to bring down the credibility of the AAS!

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

I was on peer review and development ("publishing editor") for Journal of Physics A. IoP in the US is in Philadelphia, right? I never got a trip there out of that job, but I did get ones to San Francisco, Pisa and Bangalore, so it wasn't all bad.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

As far as I know they're mostly in Philly, but the story is a new office is opening in DC, which is where my former boss is going.

Think I can get away with this one, though I am no physicist so I have no idea what it's about beyond pretty colors...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1122/653521560_09b57a1062.jpg

dan m, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't that the Great Wall/Coma Cluster thingy on the Map Of Universe jpg?

Just got offed, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Might just be the Orion Nebula, mind.

Just got offed, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

analysis of stereolab riffs:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6635/labrc1.gif

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's probably a galaxy cluster. Contours are probably the same object at another wavelength, e.g. X-ray, which is a good thing to look at clusters in. Distance scale is much too small for the Great Wall and too large for a nebula.

caek, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

The graph I have been futzing with for two weeks. I want all 30 lines to flat and at y = 0.0.

This is what it looked like on Monday:

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9071/residualszp0.gif

Tuesday:

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Today:

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I'm here to tell you that this is the scientific enterprise. It's some bullshit.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

What is your model made of? What is it supposed to be used for when it works?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

I make models of disk galaxies. They are ones that happen to be oriented edge-on to us so they look more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombrero_Galaxy (but even more edge-on) than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_81. This makes it harder to work out whether they have spiral structure or bars than ones that are face-on, which you can just look at.

The idea is I take an image of the edge-on galaxy, add up the mass along the line of sight and predict how the stars in a perfectly asymmetric galaxy with that mass distribution would move. I then compare this to measurements of the stars movement (I will show these soon). If I can't get, e.g. model and data velocity-radius curve to match in the central region then I can conclude that the galaxy is not perfectly axisymmetric and probably has a bar. Another product of this fitting process is the mass-to-light ratio. If M/L > 1 then we either have stars heavier than our sun for the amount of light they produce -- or dark matter.

That is the big idea, anyway. In practice I end up doing things like what I've been up to for the past fortnight, which is basically dealing with a shortcoming of my data, which is good in some regards, but poorly calibrated. This involves futzing around with numbers until my lines match the lines for the same objects published by the big, very accurately calibrated surveys.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

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^^^ example of comparing my the velocity curve of my mass models to the data. That's a pretty good fit. M/L is worryingly high, but I know why that is. I need to regenerate all these plots.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

What do you use to make your figures, caek? I do a lot of work on graphics, mostly because it seems there is a sizable group of authors using plotting software that they wrote themselves, and the fonts and/or colorspace get messed up. Also, IDL can eat my balls.

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I use IDL : (

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Ahahah I thought so! :) The big thing is that in my experience, IDL does not know the difference between RGB and CMYK. It may say it does, but it doesn't.

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Pretty much all astrophysicists do. There are movements toward Python, mainly coming from the Hubble dudes, but there is an awful lot of entrenched code. I'm not convinced Python's graphics capabilities will make journals' lives a lot easier anyway, although it is a much nicer language.

I'm going to redraw my figures for publication in Illustrator. It's what Tufte would do.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it has a very, very eccentric colour system, although in 1993 it was pretty amazing.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

It is presumably why my pure white backgrounds come out off-white when converted to a GIF by Preview.app.

caek, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Working with your stuff in Illustrator is a good idea. Convert those fonts to outlines!

dan m, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/pill.gif

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

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So we signed off on those flat lines, and now I have to do error analysis (to figure out the error in my correction). This white line on this graph (not mine) is my life right now:

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caek, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

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The other thing I am doing at the moment. The thing in the pink circle is one of the galaxies I am interested in. The big star to its right is going to ruin my day tomorrow.

caek, Thursday, 8 November 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

More rap graphs:

http://www.jamphat.com/rap/

StanM, Saturday, 10 November 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

For the record, the original Last.fm graphs were made by Lee Byron (http://megamu.com/lastfm/ and http://centripetalnotion.com/2007/05/18/19:24:07/)

Loader, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://i22.tinypic.com/29ks9ys.jpg

surely the average height of the WTC would be lower in 2001, if measured monthly over the whole year.

pc user, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Well, that's obviously Fiscal Year 2001 (trade center, get it?), that ended on Sept 30th. That is why the difference on such a small graph is almost unnoticeable.

StanM, Saturday, 10 November 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3050/residualsjr9.gif

lol science

caek, Sunday, 11 November 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/821/picture1cp6.png

That, my friends, is discretization and it's a bitch.

caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

that hurts to look at

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

it hurts my soul.

caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Picture1-2.png

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

That is a weird way of looking at my model galaxy. Smooth.

And here are a couple of graphs I did for a film (supposed to be bad)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/graph.png

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/pie.png

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

And I forgot to post this when I started this thread, which you'll have seen if you're a fan of uppers

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/speed3.gif

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://blog.iso50.com/?p=1024

http://blog.iso50.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/burkina.jpg

http://blog.iso50.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/somalia.jpg

way to undermine your credibility, dude

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

I made a sweet bubble plot today!!!

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

jpgs or it's not true

caek, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone have any more graphs that look like vajayays, pls email me thx

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

i have some! i made these.

RAINBOW:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/13.png

STD GAMMA II
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/13-1.png

which scheme do you prefer? they both look fine printed b/w, which is one concern.

caek, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

Some group placed little white flags on our quad, each for "at least" 5 Iraqis dead, and little red flags, each for "at least" 5 Americans dead, from the Iraq war. The red flags are mostly clustered in a tidy area in front of the sign with our school's name on it, and the white flags stretch on for several blocks. It is pressing my art buttons, my math buttons, and my social justice buttons all at the same time.

Here is the first flickr photo I could find of it.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

This may be old news, but wau Songchart

Number of soldiers riding away, grouped by metallurgical composition
Effect of Time on Perceived Relative Distance of Troubles

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

What kind of chart would you use to show, say, technological lag?

eg. you want to show, visually, a timeline of when the 486 became standard, then the pentium, then the p2... and then show when your company adapted the 486, ten the pentium, etc... and dsplay how long each took?

Will M., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

and, how the fuck do i make excel make whatever you recommend?

Will M., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

a personal favourite:

http://base58.com/ilx/opinionsvsrelevance.gif

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

xp: opportunity to procrastinate, yay. Two options.

One is to plot the year of release against the year of adoption. The further above the line y = x the points are, the later it was adopted. You'd probably label the points with, e.g. "Pentium" or whatever rather than just put crosses.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Picture1-3.png

Another is to plot the lag before adoption (i.e. adoption - release). The further above y = 0 the later the adoption.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Picture2.png

caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

does this guy know how to party or what

caek, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

you, sir, are made of heroism.

Will M., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

i think i am going to go with the first one, btw... just figuring out how to make it. any hot chart-makin' tips?

Will M., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

i'm glad i processed those extra participants' waivers during my lunch break yesterday, sunday, instead of eating

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 04:45 (six years ago)

"Beginner's Diarhhea"!

zuck zuck lucify (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 06:22 (six years ago)

two years pass...

What a wonderfully misleading diagram in the Times today 📈 pic.twitter.com/isQtZS6Mot

— Will Bailey-Watson (@mrwbw) June 27, 2022

koogs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:29 (three years ago)

six months pass...

loooooooool

An analysis looks at how defense spending among the nations with the highest expenditures has changed since 1992 and what may have driven the changes https://t.co/3ln08vOKAo pic.twitter.com/yqK6MqwQUm

— St. Louis Fed (@stlouisfed) January 22, 2023

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 22:33 (three years ago)

five months pass...

https://i.redd.it/cxtoiiuy9l9b1.png

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 July 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

see you there in April!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 00:31 (two years ago)


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