I don't even see where that quote claims "tossing out narrative fictional structure" is "daring".
― Casuistry, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)
guys, bob dylan is boring.
― sunny successor, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)
i did stand in line with cate blanchett at a patisserie in north sydney once. shes cute and not bob dylan like at all.
― sunny successor, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)
i think the implication is plain.
i suppose i am so BORED with
-godard -debord -deleuze -warhol -mcluhan
as '60s godheads. and when they're served to me by the writer of '48 hrs', something weird is afoot.
i hope the film is less leaden than 'velvet goldmine' and less derivative than 'far from heaven' and less suburbophobic than 'safe'.
xpost
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
'derivative'
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
Thanks for telling us how bored you are; we are edified by your boredom.
-_- ~~~ zzzzzzzzzzzz
― elmo argonaut, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
I got my tix before remembering this was Haynes, but hopefully the actors will subdue him.
― gabbneb, Monday, 10 September 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)
'psycho 98' > 'far from heaven'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 10 September 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
pretty damn good, a must-see unless you HATED Velvet Goldmine (or Dylan); like that, its ambition exceeds his grasp, and hooray. Cate and the young kid are most mesmerizing. Billy the Kid (Gere) and Heath-Charlotte plot least rewarding. Looks, sounds great -- see it on the biggest screen possible (assuming that's even an option in yr town).
Malkmus sings for Blanchett!
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 6 October 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
i am pretty much 100% with you there morbs.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 6 October 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)
dylan hanger-on who gets dressed down by blanchett and hick type on the side of the road gere talks to are both local actors and friends of mine.
I really want to see this, but it's not showing anywhere near me.
This is why torrents are good?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
NYT Magazine piece running tomorrow
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 6 October 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)
pretty damn good, a must-see unless you HATED Velvet Goldmine (or Dylan); like that, its ambition exceeds his grasp, and hooray.
that sounds very much what i expected and makes me happy to hear. todd haynes + dylan is like a movie genetically engineered just for me.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 7 October 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)
I didn't know that it had been largely shot in and around Montreal til that Times Mag piece.
Also, Harvey Weinstein thinks Gere segment doesn't work. Even a porcine grubby mogul is right once in awhile...
Soundtrack has usual hip rockers (Calexico, Yo La T, Sonic Youth) a la VG, only this time they're doing actual Dylan songs instead of glam pastiches.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 October 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)
it's not showing anywhere near me.
It doesn't even open in NYC til Nov 21.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 October 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)
she tells Charlie Rose she heard he drives a yellow Hummer with a "World's Greatest Grandda" bumper sticker
― gabbneb, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)
btw, Julianne Moore kills w/ Joan Baez caricature
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)
I'm guessing it's not gonna help that he picked someone annoying to play someone annoying
― gabbneb, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)
yes, David Cross is good too
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 October 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)
Collection of related links thus far, including Ann Powers chasing down every biog reference that appears in the film that she can:
http://daily.greencine.com/archives/004883.html
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 November 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
What the hell happened to Cate Blanchett?
― milo z, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)
I had NO idea this was going to open in so many theaters. Suburbanites better brush up on those semiotics.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
Tony Scott, gibbering with excitement
Not surprisingly, this hasn't opened here yet; I'll have to watch No Country For Old Men tonight.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)
Also: can Morbz confirm whether Christian Bale (coiffed like John Fogerty) is as hot as he looks in that picture?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
purty hot
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 November 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
no one had this for T'giving dessert?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)
It opened today -- will go tomorrow.
My local daily's tepid review.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)
i liked this as much as i expected to, which was a lot. i didn't like it more than i expected to, which is mildly disappointing. but only mildly. (and i actually liked the richard gere sequence fine; the heath ledger segments were the ones i thought droned on a bit, finely decorated tho they were.) i can't really imagine the effect on dylan novices (much less dylan-haters, but i guess they're not going to see it anyway).
looked great, all of it. sounded great too of course.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 24 November 2007 05:43 (eighteen years ago)
i'm something of a dylan novice (ie i like the handful of songs i've heard but have never listened to an entire album of his in one sitting)* and i thought this was really awesome. like morbius said, ambition exceeds grasp slightly but i'm willing to award it points for its sheer audacity. i agree also about the heath ledger bits** dragging on somewhat but cate blanchett was stunning and the movie as a whole just looks really beautiful. haynes really has a knack for making semiotics seem sexy.
*correcting this ASAP btw **nb not "ledger's bits" which i thought were well-worth the $10.50 hem hem
― impudent harlot, Saturday, 24 November 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)
haha I loathed Velvet Goldmine (and hate the soundtrack to this movie) yet I think I'll see it anyway, just 'cause
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 24 November 2007 08:40 (eighteen years ago)
i love velvet goldmine and i think the best parts of it are more fun than i'm not there. but this one's put together more sturdily. (feels less made-up-in-the-editing-room.)
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 24 November 2007 09:02 (eighteen years ago)
Seeing this tonight.
― Jaq, Saturday, 24 November 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
now i would like to see a movie about bob dylan's use of helvetica please
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 24 November 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)
this looks like six kinds of awful movie all rolled up into one. i completely don't understand why anyone would finance, write, film or desire to see this.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:27 (eighteen years ago)
this looks like six kinds of awful movie all rolled up into one.
otm. but in a good way.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 25 November 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)
i liked this as much as i expected to, which was a lot. i didn't like it more than i expected to, which is mildly disappointing. but only mildly
OTM. I liked the Ledger-Gainsborough sequences a lot, actually; his surly Heath Ledgerness and "Dylan's" create a nice tension in those domestic scenes.
Was that Wilco performing "Goin' to Acapulco" in the Gere sequence?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)
i think it's jim jones from mmj
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)
All the supporting performances are wonderful, especially Bruce Greenwood as "Mr Jones" and Julianne Moore.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 25 November 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)
I thought the Black Panthercentric 'video' for 'Ballad of a Thin Man' was a bit much, but sort of in a good way.
I watched Dont Look Back for the first time in eons this weekend, and forgot how little music is in it; a must for Dylan novices along w/ the PBS Scorsese doc.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 November 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)
Eonline: $757,385 for Friday-Sunday at 130 theaters. per-screen average of $5,826.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)
-- s1ocki
Yeah, I know one of the guys who was in the band that played The Band, although I haven't been in touch for a while.
― Anna, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)
i thought this was pretty great
― gff, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)
kim gordon lol!
― gff, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)
What's hilarious is that her lines would have worked as a spoken-word bit on A Thousand Leaves.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)
"Do your early stuff!" (Beyond looking like him Cross not very Ginsberglike tho)
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)
the heath ledger segments were the ones i thought droned on a bit
I thought the Christian Bale parts were the weakest, he played Dylan like a half mute zombie hunchback
xpost - that scene was serious lols
― dmr, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
^that's not a bad description of Protest Singer Dylan!
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)
this was a lot of fun. altho the overall portrait it paints is one of a very unhappy person.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)
He's a person?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)
Forgot Charlotte Gainsbourg was in this.
― Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 July 2023 17:18 (two years ago)
They actually screened 35mm prints of this at Metrograph and MoMA recently. It was quite a nostalgia trip to see it again - I vividly remember seeing it when it came out, and I still have the ticket stub (now faded but just barely legible) tacked to my old bedroom wall. Back then, I was almost alone in the theater. (I didn't realize until the end that a couple was sitting in the back.) I was blown away, but it was kind of sad to see the film do so poorly as the screening I went to turned out to be the last before the theater booked a different movie. I think it had ran for at best two weeks. This time, it was a packed screening, and it still holds up for me. I think it's one of Todd Haynes's best films and the best film outside of D.A. Pennebaker's films that I've seen on Dylan. It's clearly a movie that understands his work very well and knows how to reflect that dramatically and cinematically rather than spelling it all out. (Even the few minutes of pseudo-documentary interviews are more about the way Dylan was idolized by his '60s fans.)
― birdistheword, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:32 (two years ago)
xps Also, a bit late, but here's Jim Hoberman's write-up back when it came out:
https://www.villagevoice.com/2007/11/13/like-a-complete-unknown-im-not-there-and-the-changing-face-of-bob-dylan-on-film/
― birdistheword, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:34 (two years ago)
rewatched this last night and laughed out loud when cate-as-dylan first thrills then destroys brian jones by recognising him at a party and introducing him as "brian jones from that groovy covers band"
i like haynes even when's being a bit leadenly DO-YOU-SEE but there's maybe less of that in this movie than any of his other movies?
(except for the destructive journalist being called jones, i mean i see why you feel you can't dodge that but YES WE GET IT TODD)
― mark s, Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:18 (two years ago)
ranking the dylans: cate, marcus carl franklin, whishaw, gere, bale, ledger
cutest allen ginsberg ever: david cross lol
― mark s, Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:21 (two years ago)
He has a couple of DO YOU SEEs in May-December.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 November 2023 11:22 (two years ago)