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there's one on junction road too. i have started to say 'weapon' quite a bit.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 4 February 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.tvgohome.com/tvgohome140599.jpg

― Miles Finch, Friday, 4 February 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that was too big, but anyway i don't look *unlike* that.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 4 February 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, saw a couple of 'Speechtool' ads in West Norwood last week - from the bus so not close enough to read whether they reveal what they're actually advertising. A couple of locals were looking very intently at the ads...

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 February 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the bottom crashed out of the internet, fashion and magazine publishing. A downturn that the area has since struggled to claw itself out of.

I hate to be a hata, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 4 February 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

morris's next series should be about this guy:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15150907&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=the-man-who-drinks-petrol-name_page.html

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 4 February 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

sleaze nation is still going, right? i love the dnb soundtrack on the trailer, it's exactly right.

sleaze closed last year after a relaunch. i remember reading tvgohome with relish back during my shockingly short stint editing the music section there. there were some great people at the mag, but plenty of nathan barleys too. it didn't seem like satire, more reportage. so i will enjoy the series, i reckon.

also i have a lot invested in barley. my first ever paid piece of writing was on tvgohome, three years back. i got to use 'cunt', 'fuck', and 'pissant' in my maiden piece! woo!

i snuck the word 'pisspoor' into the times, early on in my career. my dad thought it was poor journalism to use the word!

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

in reply to momus' question re. the 'dan ashcroft' character from the trailers and website i am deducing that this will kind of be 'the jacques perretti story'.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 4 February 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

TVGoHome paid?

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

sorrry -- i mean the piece was 'about' tvgohome in a separate publication.

― Miles Finch, Friday, 4 February 2005 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

rereading the column via momus's link, they are rather feverishly moral, in a gratifying way - esp. the constant references to exploitation, prostitution, cocaine, etc... especially peculiar in context to the Fair Trade Drugs thread.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ultimately, the real-life rituals and aesthetics to be found at the cooler end of youth culture do a perfectly good job of satirising themselves. Morris would have done better to set up a camera in Hoxton Square and let the real life Nathan Barleys hang themselves.

he has a point here but i'll reserve judgement 'til i've seen tonight's episode which i'm really looking forward to!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought it premieres on the 11th?

can't wait for torrents.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 4 February 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Nathan Barley sweepstakes:

1) Who'll turn up in the series first: Kevin Eldon or Mark Heap?
2) Which episode and how long into it will this be?

Winner gets something or other.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

your right cutty - i thought it was tonight.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i just look at mark heap and he makes me laugh.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 4 February 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

mark heap is so good.

he has been involved in just about everything the past 6 years.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 4 February 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry but this looks awful! morris and brooker need to give it a rest. those billboard ads are all over leeds and are totally shit. theres no way this could be funny, to me it just seems like a coupel fo people who used to b edgy and shit, but now therye an embarrassment. its like my dad havign a laugh by saying things like "this is *cool"" or something , shit phrases like "well weapon". i fell sort of mebarrassed for chris morris whenever i see those ads.

tvgohome was intensely vitriolic, but i al ways felt it was the bitter anger of just some old guys who werent really in touch anymore, but just took it out on a bunch of idiots. the "cunt" bits of tvgh were the least funny anyway.

― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont wnat people to get the impression that i am siding with boorman though, he is an utter imbecile for exmaple:

"it became difficult to distinguish between genuine creatives and opportunistic charlatans."

oh yeah real creatives theres a ton of them about, many of them with the surname Boorman, eh neil?

"Why the real players in youth culture are never drafted in to help is a mystery"

hahahaha WTF you mean, like, kids? oh no, you mean NB and a bunch of failures from sleaze. theyre the real players in youth culture.

that article is pathetic

― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

1) Who'll turn up in the series first: Kevin Eldon or Mark Heap?

from the stills gallery: is this kevin eldon?

http://www.trashbat.co.ck/images/barley/gallery/programme_stills/still_5.jpg

if it is, then my bet's on him.

― Slump Man (Slump Man), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The bottom crashed out of the internet, fashion and magazine publishing. A downturn that the area has since struggled to claw itself out of.
I hate to be a hata, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-- Markelby

Hata.

― Anna (Anna), Saturday, 5 February 2005 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to be round Chris' office when this was in early development but i didn't want to have much to do with it. didn't see the point of poking fun at shoreditch

― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi Nick!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 February 2005 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I was in the pub yesterday reading the papers (note build-up of excuse for next statement) and the Daily Mail TV guide said that this would be much better if it were Rik Mayall and Dylan Moran in it instead.

I haven't seen even a trailer for the show, but I imagine this idea of casting to be the truth.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 6 February 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

More clips and a critical discussion of the show on the current edition of Newsnight Review (the arts review show desperate enough to ask me to screentest as a critic at the end of last year)!

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 7 February 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Rik Mayall and Dylan Moran? Yes, everyone knows that Nathan Barley is either pushing 50 and/or Irish?!?!?

― Miles Finch, Monday, 7 February 2005 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I got asked to screentest for Newsnight Review as well. I told them that I didn't fancy going on TV but if they could get Ian McShane to portray me I would write the script and he could act it out. They didn't seem too keen on that idea.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 7 February 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Did they say "can't we ask Ken Stott instead?"

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 7 February 2005 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

They didn't know what I looked like and I wanted to escape the Stottesque straitjacket.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I must say I feel a bit left out, not having been asked, but there we are. They really do need to find some better women panellists -- it's basically just Greer and the unspeakable Julie Myerson.

― Miles Finch, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

There's also the other Greer and occasionally you get Allison Pearson or Deborah Bull or Natasha Walter and none of them is any good and they're all of a certain (stereo)type. Would like to see Kathy Burke on there but presumably they can't afford her any more.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

they occasionally have miranda sawyer on, too. i would like to go on newsnight review, just so as i can leap up in the middle of the programme and belt the living shit out of tom paulin, entirely unprovoked.

― stelfox, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

miranda sawyer is becoming a bigger disappointment to me by the day, especially since she started writing for the daily mail.

― stelfox, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

what's paulin done to you, dave? sawyer is, has always been, bullshit.

― Miles Finch, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Miranda Sawyer writes for the Daily Mail?! What, is she the new Linda Lee Potter?

― stew, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Paulin's voice is vv irritating.

― caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 7 February 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i said unprovoked.

― stelfox, Monday, 7 February 2005 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Rik Mayall and Dylan Moran? Yes, everyone knows that Nathan Barley is either pushing 50 and/or Irish?!?!?

I think the Daily Mail thing was suggesting that a young Rik Mayall (bear in mind this is the Daily Mail and they aren't quite au fait with the current times) could be the stereotypical obnoxious arsehole, and that Dylan Moran has the cynical world-weariness to play Dan Ashcroft.

Anyway, I am not defending the daily mail, but, as you were...

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

50 minutes to go. Cookd and Bombd are shania on the whole thing: http://chilled.cream.org/forums/portal.php

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah so that was okay

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that was cock muff and bumhole.

― Frogman Henry, Friday, 11 February 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm seemed a bit of a misfire to me. the nathan barley charater/actor was completely unconvincing. i like the guy who plays dan ashcroft though.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah funny in places.

I didn't realise, not having read (read?) 'shoreditch twat', that morris had spawned a band of this kind of neologistic followers but I got the broad generalities.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I wanted it to not be, but it was the rub. 3 years too late.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i quite liked it, i don't fully understand the Dan Ashcroft character tho - WHY is he like this/WHY is he there?/WHY does he tolerate it all? just for OUR amusement?

the nathan barley charater/actor was completely unconvincing

he seemed pretty much in keeping with the TVGH character

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i quite liked it, i don't fully understand the Dan Ashcroft character tho - WHY is he like this/WHY is he there?/WHY does he tolerate it all? just for OUR amusement?

I think the point of the character was "Hi, I'm popular TV critic Charlie Brooker, and man do I meet some foolish people in my ever-so-rivetting life".

That wasn't even Chris Morris' "Max And Paddy". It was Chris Morris' Tony Ferrino.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

He was a cunt, certainly.

(xpost)

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

it was quite funny in places though relied on a lot of the things morris has always relied on. ('that was totally jackson!')

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Overall, I quite liked it. The over-the-top cartoonishness of some parts - the tiny bikes and so on, for example - was a bit annoying, though. And, Dom's right, the Dan Ashcroft magazine article could have come straight out of a Brooker TV review. It might not be Morris' best thing ever, but compared to the rest of what's on the telly it still stands up.

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought the tiny bikes were great - i like the surreal bent of it all.

the scene with the Weekend On Sunday editor...maybe lacking the poise of The office but reminded me of it a lot

i liked it when he joined in 'cock muff bumhole' at the end too, the sense of hopelessness and resignation was well captured.

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

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hell, I don't think I have a region-free player hooked up now, I might have to copy this over to my pc

― mh, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

nine years pass...

i'm not a preacher man

― mh, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 03:41 (seven years ago)

keep it chopped out, yeah?

― meaulnes, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 22:44 (seven years ago)

Toby, you rim-licker. How's it fucking collapsing?

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 22:47 (seven years ago)

well fucking weapon

― mh, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 23:06 (seven years ago)

five years pass...

Someone has upscaled this and posted it all on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtWTIY-isko

First time I've seen it since it was first broadcast nearly 20 years ago and tbh not really feeling it, first episode is ok, second is bad, not going to continue but might check out the bit with Kevin Eldon.

― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:45 (two years ago)

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