Homicide: Life on the Street: classic or the best show ever created?

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james, i think there have been two. this is the second part of a crossover with law and order and (i think) the one you're talking about was the first part of a different crossover with law and order shown, yes, a few months ago. that one was a repeat, this one should be new. i could be wrong.

btw, i meant the 3rd when i said the 5th. it's saturday.

andy

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, look:

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9711/12/law.order/

quote...
NEW YORK (CNN) -- The last time "Law & Order" joined forces with its NBC partner "Homicide" to solve a case, the shows' detectives were looking for a suicide bomber. The crossover episode proved popular with viewers from both shows, and gave each drama a Nielsens infusion.

So it only makes sense that the two programs' producers would seek out another joint venture. This year, crossover director Ed Sherin says, the teams are trying to solve "the mysterious death of a beautiful model, who happens to be 14 years old."
end quote...

that said, this was posted in 1997 so...

and here (http://www.lawandorder-fr.com/guide_episodes/crossovers.php3) it says (in french no less) that this is actually the third:

A ce jour, Law & Order (New York District) compte quatre cross-overs répartis comme suit :

one i didn't know about:
6.13 - Charm City 1/2 (Panique dans le métro) dans L&O (NYD).
4.12 - For God and Country 2/2 (Pour le bien du pays) dans Homicide.

this was the last one:
8.06 - Baby, It's You 1/2 (Mon enfant) dans L&O (NYD).
6.05 - Baby It's You 2/2 dans Homicide.

this one on saturday:
9.14 - Sideshow 1/2 (Querelles de clochers) dans L&O (NYD).
7.15 - Sideshow 2/2 (Dans les hautes sphères) dans Homicide.

isn't google a wonderful thing. 8)

andy

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Well if it's the third I missed the first two, unfortunately. The one I saw was the one with the young model.

Of course they could be showing them the other way round and putting on one of the earlier ones. Either way I'll definitely watch it.

― James Ball (James Ball), Saturday, 26 April 2003 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

Anyone got the Season 3 DVD set? I'm on the second disc now... can't wait till I get to Gordon Pratt. I saw this on the first run when I was 15(?), so it's kinda cool to check it out that many years later.

My favourite character arc has to be Kellerman. The handling of Bayliss' character always seemed forced to me, especially towards the end.

― alex in montreal, Monday, 5 January 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

SON OF A...when did they release season three? Distribution for these are so poor up here that you can barely find the first set. Sadness.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i LOVE this show -- though THE WIRE is maybe just as good, and of course also shot in b'more...

― yetimike (McGonigal), Monday, 5 January 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I always wished I could watch this show (not that I wasn't allowed or anything, it was just never on any of the channels I got)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm guessing you mean Canada by "up here", Sean. I got mine at Metro Video in Montreal about two weeks ago and I've seen the Seasons 1&2 set at Future Shop.

― alex in montreal, Monday, 5 January 2004 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

metro video is great! well, as great as a video store can be in this stupid video-hating province

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, finding the first one here in Toronto was pretty tough; haven't seen the second at all yet. Will start my search. How much was the third season?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 5 January 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw them both (and both currently out of my spending abilities, since I chose to take the moral highground and saw my income halved) at a Huge Music Vendor in the mall here, and if I remember kee-rectly, Season 3 was more expensive than Seasons 1 & 2.

And Meldrick Lewis was the best character.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

never seen it, but I want the DVDs baaad - THE WIRE is very likely the best TV show I've ever seen (though nobody else apparently watches it, which just kills me), so if HOMICIDE is even half as good i'm sure to love it.

― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

the last two seasons of Homicide will make you cry at how bad it got.
I didn't notice how bad it was when they originally aired, but seeing it in syndication...my heart broke.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I blame Jon Seda.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget Michelle Michael or Michael Michelle.

bringing good looking people on to the show was stupid AND dumb.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Sean: I got the 3rd Season for $80 CAN plus provincial and federal taxes.

― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Is the Adena Watkins/Moses Gunn interrogation episode one of the most frightening and riveting things to ever be shown on network television or is it just me?

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon Seda KILLED Homicide.

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I was obsessed with this series while it was on, and at the time really agreed that the final seasons were a huge drop off in quality and heralded the end of the show with all the "pretty faces", but in retrospect I think that it still hit more than it missed then. "Subway" is still my favorite hour of the whole series and that was in the second-to-last season with Seda.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 02:20 (twenty-two years ago)

The Subway episode was great, but do you know what was better? the episode of Taxicab Confessions on HBO where a transit cop or fireman, i can't remember which, described the same exact scenario. He had seen it more then once and his descriptions were harrowing.(I saw that before the homicide episode aired, dunno if he inspired the episode or not.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you see the documentary about the subway episode? It was called "Anatomy of a Homicide"...'twas pretty awesome.

― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

that documentary was on PBS. It would be nice if they put this on the DVD when they get to that episode but I wouldn't count on it. However, I have a sneaking recollection that somewhere they admitted they got that idea from somewhere else, perhaps Taxicab Confessions.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

so like there's some queer homicide/law and order crossover on tnt tonight, and man is it weird...like seeing a batman meets the fantastic four story or something.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The previous one was better, 'cause it had Skoda as the bad guy! Also, Curtis and Falsone talking about their kids??? SHOOT ME NOW.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck, is it gonna air again?

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

the very first H:LOTS/L&O crossover was the best. It was early in the series, maybe first or second season. It was in the pre-show teaser. Mike Logan was dropping off a prisoner into the custody of Pembleton and Bayliss and they were dissing each other's cities. But the best part? The prisoner was John Waters (who later played a bartender who nodded in agreement to one of Munch's rants, presumably a different character).

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

That John Waters scene was indeed classic.

can the Jon Seda hate, y'all. The dude was one smooth smoothie. If anyone got close to ruining Homicide it was Michelle Forbes and that ex-fireman who killed the drug kingpin.

Man, the fact that I can't remember half the characters names reaffirms I must check out the DVDs.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Kellerman! Kellerman was great when they didn't lay the angst on him too thickly. He was always trying to eat his gun.
Kellerman and Lewis were a great team. Great dialogue. Almost as good as Crosetti and Lewis.
and Shiner!

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I just have a distinct memory of the angst being laid on too thickly. And Michelle Forbes (that was the coroner, right?) can just get run over by a truck.

There was a time were Homicide made me believe that Max Perlich was the bombdiggity.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

like the time he ruined Lewis's marriage!
no one wanted to live with him!

Michelle Forbes, yup, she was Julianna Cox, the angsty/sassy coroner. She had some good moments.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Sean, you can rent (at least) the first two series from Queen Vid, I think.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

What was that stuff with Braugher pounding his fists on a coffin? Was that from when it had jumped?

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

oh god. the symbolic aneurysm coffin.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Pembleton (Braugher) handed in his badge while standing over his partner's hospital bed. He may have banged on it. It was usually Gee who banged on things though.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What happened to him? I think there was a big buzz round him as an actor at the time.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda just pray he's been doing a lot of theatre. I'd hate to think Frequency was his most recent acting peak.

What did people think of that TV movie they did a year after the show ended? I only saw a bit and was kind of bothered by how much of it just seemed like a damn cast party (even in heaven!).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

he's still on that Hack show, where David Morse is part Travis Bickle, part Batman, and part Job.
If that show's still on.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

can the Jon Seda hate, y'all.

No. Fucking. Way.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

aw, come on! I loved seeing him in those beer ads after the show ended!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon Seda and Limp Bizkit? I love Anthony, but I fear him too.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey I'm not saying Seda wuz robbed at the Emmys. I just don't get why he's being hated on.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I had issues with the whole "heaven is the coffee room" thing (only I think Crosetti says when Gee asks for espresso, "hey where do you think you are, heaven?" so I guess the coffee room is purgatory???)
it seemed so incongruous with the rest of the series.
like the whole series, I thought there were good, bad, meh, and great parts. Like the fact that it had Clark Johnson in it, that was great.
Bayliss as completely useless whiner...meh.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

According to imdb, Seda played Sally 'Fish' Pescatore in the 2001 William Baldwin vehicle Double Bang. This seems fitting.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

esp. since he was basically Daniel Baldwin, the less sweaty sequel!

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, big love for the sweat of Daniel Baldwin! I can't wait to see that on crisp digital imaging.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a Law and Order/Homicide crossover on TNT tonight.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 15 January 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i hate to say it, but i coulda done without the Pembleton stroke subplot. i mean he was on fire and they give him rainman duty. i thought it was unfair. i could listen to him talk forever.they should have given someone else a stroke. watched Glory a week ago and i had forgotten his part as the uptight educated civil war soldier.(he stutters in that movie)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 January 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, it was kind of frustrating when Pembleton got the stroke because he was already the most compelling character and while that did give him a new dimension, it kind of ended a lot of what was great about him. I'd be fine with his gradually diminished role in the show if he had succeeded in crossing over into movies, though...ah well.

love the show, but I have a big Baltimore bias of course. I could probably recognize every other exterior shot. the house where Pembleton lived whenever they showed him at home on the show is on my dad's street, and my dad was an extra in a couple episodes, once as a coroner, once as a cop.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 15 January 2004 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I read an interview with Braugher where he was saying that he thought this guy who was unstoppable in the interview room was getting boring, so he wanted him to have some new problems. I can see the point, and the stroke scene itself is great, but I missed the old Pembleton too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

It was pretty freaking bold to depower your toughest character. I really liked watching Pembleton recover, dealing with the fact that he couldn't live up to his self-image.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Friday, 16 January 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

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I really love that Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows so from S6 too. An example of a lighter episode done right.

― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 03:05 (one year ago)

Great episodes directed by Jim McBride and Keith Gordon (who, like Bigelow, worked on the glorious Wild Palms), too. The producers enjoyed hiring indie film directors

― beamish13, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 03:24 (one year ago)

Whit Stillman even squeezed Chris Eigeman into his episode.

― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 03:33 (one year ago)

S6 also has Subway which is one of the all-time great episodes.

― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 05:34 (one year ago)

the only time i've ever enjoyed reed diamond is when he gets shot in the face in the first episode of the shield

― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 12:03 (one year ago)

(spoilers for the very first episode of a 22-year-old show i guess)

― My Large Grandpa Says This Plugin Is Gorgeous! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 12:03 (one year ago)

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