Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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the guardian is the least bad british newspaper

caek, Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)

such effusive praise

Mordy , Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)

that is pretty much what every uk ilxor who hasnt written for them would say

the most promising US ilxor has thrown the TOWEL IN (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)

the guardian is the least bad british newspaper

POLL

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:43 (twelve years ago)

maybe dwight yorke would cast a vote for the wetherspoons paper

the most promising US ilxor has thrown the TOWEL IN (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)

what's the best britisher newspaper including all of these on the wiki page

Mordy , Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

oh Mordy how are we defining "best" here?

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:53 (twelve years ago)

i'm voting for al-hayat

Mordy , Thursday, 18 July 2013 23:54 (twelve years ago)

The series on Hindi pop-cinema is enjoyable:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/series/100-years-of-indian-cinema

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 26 July 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)

everytime this thread appears in sna the mantra 'yes, the guardian is always worse than it used to be' crosses my mind

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)

idk if it is true or not

i should probably try to get a 1976 copy

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/z3jnxCq.jpg

Alan Rusbridger taking part in the Reddit AMA

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

to answer original groove : c'mon.
the fact is that the guardian is the best of a bad bunch.
life without it would be a fucking bad place ..
there are faults with it.
but still .. tis all about degrees of crapness ..
and i, for one, am very glad the guardian is around.
fuck the hate.

mark e, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)

^ yeah, this.

djh, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 22:35 (twelve years ago)

Can;t remember the last time I read something so badly written.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2013/aug/01/one-direction-fans-gq-abusive-tweets

Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Friday, 2 August 2013 13:51 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2013/aug/02/mind-your-language-nouveau-cockney

thanks for the email fwd dad

I was wearing a liturgy t shit and i noticed your liturgy tattoo (DJ Mencap), Friday, 2 August 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/07/10-rules-managing-penis-sexting-wine-toaster

Jesus fucking Christ get a load of this shite.

Suzanne Moore used to be a good columnist when she was the voice of sanity at the Mail but she's been awful since moving to the Guardian.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:03 (twelve years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Lifeandhealth/Pix/pictures/2007/01/15/jh.jpg

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 8 August 2013 10:13 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/08/dread-daughter-poos-smaller-girl-conform?INTCMP=SRCH

Am I wrong to be aghast at this? I mean, the central point about girls feeling increasing pressure to be self-effacing as they grow older is a legit and important one- but I can't help a gut reaction of horror when I turn to the op-ed section of the guardian and a third of the page is taken up with a writer describing their daughter's bowel movements. It brings some real 'the modern world is terrible and awful' feelings in me, but i sort of feel like this is some reactionary, Peter Hitchens-ish response that i should try and work past?

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:36 (twelve years ago)

I think i reacted to it more strongly because I saw it in the physical copy of the paper, and most of the people I see reading the hard copy of the Guardian are 60+. Like, it's the same reaction I had as a teenager when I was with my grandparents and we would accidentally catch some of a youth tv programme or a rap single or something, that i normally might of enjoyed, but I could tell they were bemused and slightly upset by the whole thing, and I just felt ashamed for my generation and the modern world generally.

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

Also feel preemptively sorry for this woman's daughter for when one of her classmates discover the article on google in 12 yrs time

Eight Model Play, Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)

not rly into sophie heawood joints but i noticed how the print edition of her editorial content carries the 'sophie is a columnist for vice' disclaimer

The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 10 August 2013 13:47 (twelve years ago)

if the guardian is going to print v lightweight columns then i'm happy for them to be about 'whopper turds'

ogmor, Saturday, 10 August 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

Incredible that someone thought that piece was interesting.

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Saturday, 10 August 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

The Guardian app has some terrible bugs which they seem to have no desire to fix. Top grumble at the moment is captions in the picture galleries, which are covered in code, presumably fed through from the website where links and bold text actually work.

Rising up the annoyance list: stories written for an Aussie audience randomly popping up in the UK version.

Madchen, Sunday, 11 August 2013 08:43 (twelve years ago)

A-grade Photoshop work guys.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/gallery/2013/aug/13/jeremy-paxman-newsnight-beards-media

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2013/aug/13/hashtag-pilgrimage-abbey-road-beatles

(was already posted in worst music writing thread)

..it would have sounded about as heavy as Talulah Gosh. (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:19 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/15/drenge-drenge-review

This isn't particularly badly written or hateful or anything, but OMG at the gulf between how excited the writer is by this album and the lyrics/song titles/examples of 'middle-fingered ingratitude' cited as justification.

squeak and gibber (Eight Model Play), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)

ehdunno

16 August 2013 9:03pm
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All 380 premier league matches live?? If there are 20 teams playing 38 games each, how is that 380? Or does it mean they are only showing 380, but they will all be live?

Amílcar Lopes da Costa Cabral (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)

38 games a season x 10 fixtures?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:38 (twelve years ago)

Lol, my reading comprehension not up to much tonight.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)

I have spent the last 12 minutes laughing at the comment quoted in Nilmar's post

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)

it is fucking funny it's true. i quite like implied concept of notional solitary football. performance-based points allocation.

Fizzles, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)

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Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/video/2013/aug/21/how-to-dress-grownup-grunge-video

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Britain is a long away off from producing good pizzas simply because people in UK have a passion from frozen food. There is no culture of eating well....by the masses.

You may ass well pour oil onto today's edition of Daily Mail , some tomato source, onion , cheese and minced beef in it and no one would be any the wiser.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)

he said ass..

Mark G, Friday, 23 August 2013 10:41 (twelve years ago)

was quite keen to read the article "a post-race vegan brunch" this weekend until I realised it was about running

transmisogyny express (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 25 August 2013 10:41 (twelve years ago)

lol

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 26 August 2013 13:15 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/sep/07/female-genital-mutilation-tradition-somalia

Although Muslim, Jewish and Christian communities carry out FGM, mainstream spiritual leaders from all three religions have denied that the practice stems from religion. Samira believes the desire to control women's sexuality lies behind it.

Mordy , Monday, 9 September 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)

What's up with that one then, spell out for dummy pls

cardamon, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:35 (twelve years ago)

the impulse to be even-handed is problematic when it starts inventing facts - FGM doesn't exist in the Jewish tradition.

Mordy , Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:44 (twelve years ago)

Ah yeah

I also wonder if 'stemming from religion' and 'stemming from a desire to control sexuality' are necessarily two different things

cardamon, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)

It has been practised in Christian and animist communities too,[74] including by the Christian Copts in Egypt and Sudan.[80] Judaism requires circumcision for boys, but does not allow it for girls.[81] Shaye J. D. Cohen writes that the only Jews known to have practised FGM are the Beta Israel of Ethiopia.[82]

2 ℜ 4 u (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)

What human faces might look like in 100,000 years

Picture doesn't disappoint.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/18/human-faces-in-the-future

click here to start exploding (ledge), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:00 (twelve years ago)

science

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:06 (twelve years ago)

It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism. It's conjecture, but also more than armchair futurism.

you will not expect her to say, “Yea, cause you are the bomb. (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:13 (twelve years ago)

Our eyes will grow to Japanese anime-style proportions in the meantime

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:13 (twelve years ago)


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