Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

fuck stonewall's "thank you ma'am" tweet. forelock-tugging is NOT the correct response to ostensible equality

http://www.queerty.com/larry-kramer-weds-partner-david-webster-in-hospital-icu-20130725/

All I can think of is the end of The Normal Heart, but now, somehow, positive.

I didn't realize until today that Mark Ruffalo will be playing the Larry Kramer-ish character in the movie of The Normal Heart.

Some impressive party pooping on the eve to my marriage to Alfred.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/217692791.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue

What hurts them most about seeing society change around them? Being called bigots, they said. Feeling forced to accept something they believe is wrong.

“I have to accept that there are crosses in life,” Cherucheril said. “After all, you are following someone who died on a cross, who carried a cross. What do you expect in life? You will carry a cross at times. Yet we are people of hope.”

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Nancy Stanton, who with Keith is a member of St. Peter, said she won’t stop speaking up. “I know it’s the law, but I’m entitled to feel the way I do. This just stirs a pot of muddy water like you wouldn’t believe.”

Persuading others to regard marriage as they do isn’t getting any easier, she added, what with the pace at which society moves these days. People scan news stories, get sound bites from TV, converse via text messages and generally always seem on the run.

“There’s no deep thinking anymore,” she said. “No way to sit down and fully think through an issue.”

lmao i dont give a fuck, watching these ppl mourn is delicious

Jirele, who considers herself nondenominational, said in an e-mail that no one has crowed to her about the law being repealed.

“Many of my homosexual friends have been very respectful toward me since the vote,” she said. “I have very high concern for each of them as individuals of whom I care, but I also know that you cannot talk straight talk to a stone wall, a clogged faucet, a distracted dog or a misplaced wrench.

“Good news is only good news if the hearer hears it as good news. So I pray and wait — wait for an opportunity to share at a time that finds a friend with listening ears and open heart.”

Persuading others to regard marriage as they do isn’t getting any easier, she added, what with the pace at which society moves these days

if only folks would slow down a little, just take the time to let the slow poison of intolerance do its work

stirs her pot of muddy water like you wouldn't believe *shudders*

open your heart to <~GAY HATRED~>
psalms 3:12

you cannot talk straight talk to a stone wall

spectacularly bad word choices here

HAHA

Meanwhile, the manly anti-gay men of France who are manly:

http://americablog.com/2013/07/frances-gayest-homophobes-strike-again.html

stone wall
clogged faucet
distracted dog
misplaced wrench

^^ poll

I will always vote distracted dog.

"You cannot talk straight talk to a misplaced wrench" is a pretty great turn of phrase IMO, it sidesteps the usual brick-wall idea of a thing which cannot hear and swaps in a thing which cannot be found and would in any case be somewhat ill-fitted to the situation at hand.

It's kind of amazing to realize how sad these people are. Also I accidentally looked at the comments and was surprised how non-insane they seemed to be.

I just call Eric my misplaced wench when we're around the house.

Wrench, Alfred. I'm your wrench!

And you're my little nut.

Wrench-It Alf

(with apologies to scott seward)

Wench, Eric. Wench!

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/16222-2980.gif

o there are crosses in life

lmao i dont give a fuck, watching these ppl mourn is delicious

this times a billion

what utter savages

What hurts them most about seeing society change around them? Being called bigots, they said.

pro tip: don't be a bigot

Talk of the day, apparently

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/us/a-conservative-catholic-now-backs-same-sex-marriage.html

He sounds like a man who has come to realize that religion and politics have such divergent purposes, means and goals that there is no sense in mixing the two and expecting anything good to come of it. This pov is not going to fly with the bishops, who are chest deep in politics.

this catholic school recently cancelled a talk by a pro-gay-marriage philosopher

http://www.providence.edu/media/press-releases/Pages/provost-message.aspx

The Administration’s decision to cancel the event had nothing to do with Dr. Corvino. We were concerned, rather, that the event had strayed from what had originally been proposed – a presentation of philosophical and legal arguments in support of same-sex marriage by Dr. Corvino opposite a presentation of opposing arguments by a similar person of national repute.

As most of you know, Dr. Dana Dillon, a highly respected and accomplished member of our Theology Department, was asked at the last minute to participate in the event. She graciously agreed to do so. However, the Administration felt that it was unfair to ask Dr. Dillon, a theologian, to debate opposite someone who would be presenting philosophical and legal arguments, not theological ones.

something something meek

Poppy and Barb Bush!

Okay, that kind of warmed my heart, and I am someone who often goes out of his way to avoid romanticizing H.W. But "really old grandpa guy who probably you'd expect to be kind of uptight about these things is actually touched to be invited," etc., is hard to resist.

Would have been cool to see a little more of that tolerance and forward thinking twenty-five years ago, but...

pretty sure Poppy had a patrician's disregard for the perfidy of homosexuality even twenty years ago; he was just a coward about it.

http://www.towleroad.com/2013/09/barilla-pasta-chief-we-dont-like-gays-they-can-eat-another-brand.html

Like there are any gays left eating pasta.

it's the only thing I cook, middle-aged celibacy is liberating.

I'm eating spaghetti tonight!

Sorry, that was the brain fog. I'm not sure where my ketones are right now.

I've been coupled for a number of years. Pasta every night!

pasta in the morning, pasta in the evening, pasta at suppertime

who will fill the gay pasta niche

So we can all now marry Don Jon?

Betraying your hand there, sir. Anyway, yes:

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_jersey&id=9264965

should I be giggling at "betraying your hand" as much as I am

Success is achieved.

Don Jon never betrayed his hand.

Re: New Jersey -- Christie's dropping the appeal so it's done in full:

http://www.politickernj.com/68996/christie-administration-drops-appeal-same-sex-marriage-case

oh, I shoulda put this here instead of the gay thread (by a lesbian columnist who alternately pleases and enrages me):

You might get immigration rights and tax write-offs, but when the State joins you for better or worse, richer or poorer, it also means you’ve had all the benefits you’re going to get and are mostly on your own. If one gets sick, the other foots the bill while society stands by until your last thin dime has been spent. Without a pre-nup, debts are inherited more often than lotto winnings. Vultures circle when your partner’s at death’s door....

I’m not arguing that same-sex marriage is bad. I’m glad we have it now. It has a symbolic meaning, and it’s useful. Equality always is. I’m just not sure it’s progress in a more essential way. It ropes us back into a world we escaped at great cost. And for what? Most of the straight people I know aren’t happy in the land of matrimony. With rare exceptions, marriage seems like a musty room with all the windows glued shut by responsibilities and routine. And often acrimony. More than once I’ve gotten the impression that they are envious of my exile. No rights. No obligations, except moral ones.

http://gaycitynews.com/indigestible-marriage/

a musty room with all the windows glued shut by responsibilities and routine. And often acrimony.

Accepting responsibilities is what divides adults from children. Routine is inseperable from most ways of life apart from piracy. Acrimony, where it exists, is a sign of failure in a relationship, usually because one or both are not doing the work necessary to dissolve it.