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The Wire is good.

The episodes of Andy Barker I saw were pretty mediocre. Deserving of cancellation. Sorry bros.

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

2x, even though I laughed really, really hard at one joke the one time I actually watched it.

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Did you ever read any of Richard Price's novels, John? The Wire is very much in the same style (Price even wrote a few episodes this past season).

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think the reason "The Wire" isn't a "guy show" is that it's pretty committed to realism, as far as I can tell. There are guns and drugs and bad dealings, but they aren't treated as some kind of macho fantasy world.

Of course, it's still a tv show, so the characters still talk like fictional characters with professional dialogue writers, and a lot of the cops follow the standard cop show character types. What makes it worth watching are the "bad guys," who are treated as real people with understandable motives instead of representations of pure evil or whatever. The criminals seem more realistic than the cops, oddly enough, though I don't claim any in-depth knowledge of Baltimore's crime scene so what do I know.

Also John, since you're into accents, the main "good guy" on The Wire is a British dude playing an American, very well (I had no idea he was British until I found out online).

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I didn't know that Eazy, I can totally see it though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Price

― Jordan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

It was pretty funny when he did that horrible Britishes accent in the brothel episode!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

But anyways, I don't feel a need to "convince" John to watch The Wire. He's right, there's way too much stuff out there to try and watch everything. I'm having fun watching Twin Peaks, but our video store is renting it out in 2-DVD sets, with an average of four episodes on each disc. You can have each 2-DVD set for two days, which means you have to watch like 7 hours of TV in two days to get it back in time.

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, yeah, a Britisher doing an impression of an American doing a bad British accent, I had forgotten about that.

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's an impressive feat of speech, really, because he does it so well. I was expecting him to pull out his perfect and authentic British accent, but no, it was much better than that. Spot on.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

I kept expecting that he would whip out a perfect accent and say he had been practicing or something, just as wink wink thing for the actor, but it would have been way out of character for the show.

xpost!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

There was an interesting article in the NY Times last week about how lots of British dudes and gals are getting lead roles in TV shows now (House, etc.) in part because they aren't botoxed.

I haven't seen the most recent Wire season, but they had episodes by all of these major urban-realism writers (Price, Dennis Lehane, George Pelecanos).

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yup yup. It's a great show, John.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

interesting

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I was going to say something snarky about Google Earth not working on Macs, but I guess it does now.

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

wow, thanks. I just loaded it into google earth, and it's wild. It's like, holy shit there's a whole country on fire!

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

google earth has worked on macs for, like, more than a year!

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Google Maps by mistake and found Darfur, Minnesota.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have no reason to use it, though.

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

oddly enough, I usually don't, but today I'm actually using it for work. Grabbing screenshots of aerial shots and angled shots of 3d buildings and stuff. It's fun.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

At ik veronderstel ilx mijn vorige post, maar wie aan Imus luistert? Gepensioneerden? Ik weet werkelijk wie niet zijn markt is.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Eat did I assume ilx my previous mail, but which listens to Imus? Gepensioneerden? I weet really which are not its market.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Eet ik veronderstelde ilx mijn vorige post, maar die aan Imus luistert? Gepensioneerden? I weet werkelijk wat niet zijn markt zijn.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Do I eat assumed ilx my previous mail, but listens that to Imus? Gepensioneerden? I weet really what is not its market.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

That's english to dutch back and forth twice.

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm all alone here, aren't I?

― kenan, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm into accents?

I get Richard Price confused with Richard Powers and Richard Ford. Not with artist Richard Prince, though. Price is the dude that wrote Clockers, I'm guessing? Actually, I haven't read anything by any of them.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

The new Fridge album is pretty good.

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

You're "into" accents.

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

You're into "accents."

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

"You" are into accents.

― n/a, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

åccéñts

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Clockers is good reading. I think you'd like it (and The Wire and The Sopranos and, after a while, [i]Entourage) for the sociology and anthropology.

Gepensioneerden? A pensioners' garden?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

indeed, clockers is good. i loved that book.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I love both Richard Price novels and the Wire, but I hate "guy shows" and "man novels*." What I do like is "gritty urban realism," so these two things go along nicely. Omar is one of my favorite characters too.

See: Richard Yates' series of identical man-novels

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Samaritan is really good too. Entertaining, at least.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Richard Yates' first man novel is pretty awesome.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the first one is good. Then you realize that they are ALL THE SAME and contain the same characters doing the same stupid things.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i hated the Easter Parade and I stopped reading his novels after that

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like some of Richard Ford's short stories, especially Rock Springs, and like him very much as a reader, but the Sportswriter trilogy are man-novels in a negative sense.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

What is the Rabbit tetralogy? Are those man-novels? I like those. But much like Amanda's fondness for "gritty urban realism," I like the Rabbit books for their "domestic realism."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

All our peeps are slowly defecting to the DC thread. ;_;

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I was trying to say yesterday but did not want to be explicit. ;_;x2

we be boring?

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

hi guys you know what is depressing? midcentury dude literature. john updike is making me sad.

LOL. I didn't even read this before posting about Updike.

We should basically just combine the DC and Chicago threads.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Laurel posting on the DC thread is fine, since it's not like she has any particular allegiance to Chicago. And Kevin? Yeah, whatever, I dunno. It's the fact that Evan's posting there now that makes me all ;_;

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

And Horseshoe. She didn't come to our lady party either. ;_;

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think a one-week joint thread could be fun. Of course, this place is like crack for me and one week of cold turkey wouldn't be bad, either.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

That would be a disaster. Think of all the references we'd have to 'splain to John.

― dan m, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Nice to know I'm missed, but "whatever."

― Laurel, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

hi Chicago I still love you and I would have loved to go to lady party but I was having a panic attack week. :( I'm sorry, Amanda! when are we all going out drinking again, anyway?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I dunno. I disappear in large groups. I guess it's fine. Carry on. Que sera sera. [sigh]

Sadly, as many of you may have noticed, I am not good at "going out drinking." I am good at small gatherings with few people.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

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