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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKyxGkBRro

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 July 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

His great sitcom Rabbits, as seen in Inland Empire is a good choice.

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Sunday, 7 July 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

love that FQ piece, alex. it's been so long since i saw the straight story (during its theatrical run) that i can't now remember whether or not that reading occurred to me. either way, it's fascinating and makes me want to watch the film again.

Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Sunday, 7 July 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

sorry, alex elvis

Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Sunday, 7 July 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

I haven't seen Rabbits yet (or Inland Empire!), but it's on my viewing schedule for night #11, along with Dumbland, Boat, Lady Blue Shanghai and I Touch a Red Button.

Z S, Sunday, 7 July 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

and thanks for the link to that Straight Story review E T! i've only seen it once, in high school in some lazy May afternoon class when the students no longer want to learn and the teacher no longer wants to teach. i had no idea who david lynch was and thought it was some nauseating family friendly disney shit. definitely can't wait to watch it again with a new angle.

Z S, Sunday, 7 July 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

love the one minute film Lynch made with a restored Lumiere camera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFGroZJnklY

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

^ yeah, i remember that being the standout piece. just watched it again, still astounding. one shot!

Me and my pool noodle (contenderizer), Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

Yeah wow

the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

that's "Premonitions Following an Evil Deed", right?

Z S, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

i remember how pissed off i was at the greenaway one in that series, he used all sorts of cuts and post effects and stuff

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 7 July 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

Going to watch Straight Story again this week.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 7 July 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah that's definitely an interesting take and has made me keen to see it again. cheers for the link.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Monday, 8 July 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

You definitely need to show his early animations. "Six People Getting Sick" and "The Alphabet". This is a good source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Short_Films_of_David_Lynch

Plus "The Cowboy and the Frenchman" is on it, which I remember was pretty funny.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 8 July 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

I have my full list of viewings in a text file at home (god, i just realized i'm getting old because a teenager probably would have put it on google drive or something. my flesh...is decaying...my face...the wrinkles widen...*close-up of flame*), but the first night is going to be Six People Getting Sick, The Alphabet, The Grandmother, the Amputee, and then Eraserhead. I'm trying to straight-up chronological, as much as I can. Once it gets into the 90s and 2000s I'm going to have to be a little bit more selective, though. It's already at 13 nights, 2+ hours each, and that's with leaving out some things.

My main dilemma is whether to show the pilot ep. of Twin Peaks (American version), pilot episode (Intl. version that has the weird grafted on "ending"), or Fire Walk with Me.

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

I'm already planning on showing a few related clips (the coffee commercials, maybe the SNL sketch with Kyle MacLachlan and Phil Hartman doing a hilarious Leland), so showing both the pilot episode + Fire Walk with me would be overkill.

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

but but but you gotta! both the pilot and fwwm are essential documents, much more so than the related ephemera.

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

i don't know why i'm worrying about it anyway, by the 7th night of the series it's just going to be me, alone

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link

I'm kinda leaning toward the Pilot only, and maybe just the American version. The thing is, both Fire Walk with Me and the intl. version of the pilot would reveal the Bob/Leland connection, and that might the entire show for people who haven't seen it yet.

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

fair enough. fwwm is probably my least favorite of lynch's feature length films, so if you gotta cut one...

twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Missing words in my posts, case log #2134:

forgot to include the word "ruin" between "might" and "the entire show"

Z S, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

so, i'm still working my way through his oeuvre, chronologically. last night was Hotel Room (1993), next week is Lost Highway.

Hotel Room. made for HBO, 3 episodes (the first two are 30 minutes, the last is 40). Lynch directed the first and last. Each episode takes place in the same hotel room (and the outside hallway), but with a different cast (except for the bellboy, who is the same age and has the same appearance even though the three episodes span 60 years of time). The middle episode has some random director that they brought in at the last minute, and it's not worth mentioning. the first is compelling in its own way and has a really nice performance from harry dean stanton.

but the third episode, "black out"...very much worth watching. it takes place in 1936, and crispin glover is just fantastic in it. he plays a husband from oklahoma that's shepherding his mentally disturbed wife in a trip to NYC to visit a doctor. they talk and talk. it's wonderful. check out the first episode if you have time, but if not, invest 40 minutes in this, it's worth it if you're a lynch fan (skip to 53:40 for the third episode):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI_I6ewm-FY

Z S, Friday, 13 September 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link

and if you're concerned about the quality of the video/audio, the youtube clip is about as good as it gets. it was released on VHS only, never on DVD (at least in the US), and it's long out of print.

Z S, Friday, 13 September 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

alicia witt is so fuckin good in that

socki (s1ocki), Friday, 13 September 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link

This doc is pretty good (NB: I'm only 10 mins in):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td5u4gW0g54

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 14 September 2013 05:47 (ten years ago) link

that lumiere short is seriously one of the most impressive things he's done, and the best short in that "lumiere and company" film for sure. i also fondly recall the one by idrissa ouedraogo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFITC5Kb5g

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 14 September 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link

xpost

great doc! I hadn't seen that one before. It is interesting to see Lynch asked some difficult questions and get challenged on some of his answers.

Moodles, Sunday, 15 September 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

is that the one where he talks about "the eye of the duck"?

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 15 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link

I don't like wind on my collarbone.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 15 September 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

xpost it is!

Z S, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

That eye of the duck stuff is amazing. Slow and fast rooms. "Maybe an empty room is 2. A person is a 7. Fire/electricity takes it up to 9..."

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

You guys, that is just standard TM talk... :-\

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

what's TM?

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Monday, 16 September 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation

Number None, Monday, 16 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

Does TM really talk about the eye of the duck?

Moodles, Monday, 16 September 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

i imagine that's pretty much the level of discourse you're going to get at those TM conferences that david lynch frequents

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 16 September 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03d114j/The_Sound_of_Cinema_The_First_Time_with_David_Lynch/

nice show about sounds which influenced him as he grew up.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 21 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnsD7gJIgAAMgyq.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 May 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

DL on Eraserhead and Philly

It was a film that was inspired by the city of Philadelphia, and it’s an industrial world. It’s a smokestack-industry world. It’s factory-worker homes tucked away out of time. It has a certain feel, and the sounds have to marry to that feel, and [sound editor] Alan Splet and I just would work until we got the thing to feel correct.

I went there a couple of years ago, and the city is completely different. It felt very normal to me, not like it was then. It was brighter and cleaner and it had graffiti. And graffiti has ruined the world....

It’s defaced the beauty of the architecture, and you can’t film anywhere without the patinas on the bricks on the buildings. It’s been ruined. It happened in all the places I already love, like factories and railroad lines and bridges. All these places have been so badly defaced.

http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/david-lynch-interview-eraserhead-midnight-movies.html

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

“Not that it should surprise anyone who’s seen how Lynch depicts ostensibly idyllic small-town America, but the director’s avowed love for his adoptive hometown is hardly reflected in his work.” In “Muted Golden Sunshine: David Lynch’s Los Angeles,” a piece for the Los Angeles Review of Books, Michael Nordine considers Lost Highway (1997), Mulholland Drive (2001) and Inland Empire (2006).

http://lareviewofbooks.org/essay/muted-golden-sunshine-david-lynchs-los-angeles#

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

i was surprised that thom andersen didn't address any of those films in his "Los Angeles Plays Itself"

there's definitely a current in lynch's work that rhymes with the whole Reaganite "morning in America" stuff even though surface readings of e.g. Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks would seem to indicate the opposite. but Lynch seems to consistently conflate poverty, filth, and moral rot in a way that could be read as reactionary.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

poverty? really?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

you don't think so?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

I'm at a loss to recall any particular instance of some kind of classist snobbery in his work. In Twin Peaks the working class guys (Big Ed, Truman, Hawk, James) are the good guys. The Straight Story also has a certain dignity-of-the-working-class tone to it. IE, MD, and LH I would have a hard time identifying any of the central characters belonging to any specific economic strata (I guess Naomi Watts is obviously not as rich as Justin Theroux - but the latter is a clueless asshole whereas the former is deluded but more sympathetic). Dune is all about aristocracies until you get to the Fremen, who are obviously salt-of-the-earth types, and the ones responsible for redeeming the universe. Eraserhead is just about industrial wasteland in general, seems like everybody is poor and suffering in that movie unless there's some kindly rich character I'm forgetting.

the filth and moral rot seem to operate at all levels of society for him afaict.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

Blue Velvet it seems like everybody is from the same middle class social strata, some people are just more psychotic than others lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

it's not as simple as classist snobbery. he's not a snob in that sense. there's a kind of middle-class, middle American distaste for both the rich and the poor. a sense of moral rot at both extremes, though it often seems more visceral when connected to poverty. i'm thinking of the trailer parks in twin peaks, much of the underworld that jeffrey encounters in blue velvet, the homeless guy in mulholland drive, some other stuff that i can't immediate bring to mind.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

i think the veneration (?) of the working-class types is not inconsistent with a visceral disgust (i wouldn't exactly call it hatred) of the idle poor.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

this was not an uncommon critique of lynch ca. twin peaks, btw. maybe it's off base, but it always seemed at least partially correct to me.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

i think the veneration (?) of the working-class types is not inconsistent with a visceral disgust (i wouldn't exactly call it hatred) of the idle poor.

btw this is where "reagan democrats" and morning in america, etc. come in...

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link


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