OMG I WANT THIS AMAZING RONALDINHO BOTTLE OPENER

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I think you guys would have a stronger point if that bottle opener actually HAD large gums...?

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yikes. I R MORAN.

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

scroll down a little until you see the apposite image

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

And, since it doesn't, you aren't really arguing your case very well...?

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

I once had to explain to my wife how everyone in Europe thinks Ronaldinho is ugly. She was a little stunned, she was like "I have seen a hell of a lot worse-looking guys than him!" THEN SHE STARED AT ME FOR A LONG TIME AND I BECAME UNCOMFORTABLE.

hahahaha

― G00blar, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

but I don't think a Camilla Parker Bowles bottle opener would sell.

it would if you opened the bottle in her ass

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and don't make me post the picture of the 'black man's cock' baby's bottle Tom and I found in a mainstream toyshop in Spain.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

If I'm so stupid...

:|
B|

...why don't you take my arguments apart with convincing counter-arguments rather than resort to abuse?

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6987/yaaaaowkm9.png

― ghost rider, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

wait, matt, WHAT?

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

okay kenan wtf

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

i.e. THE BRAZILIANS THEMSELVES draw Ronaldo and Ronaldinho with caricatured teeth.

i.e. you are all cunts.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

i.e. okay then goodbye

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

but no-one says "all black people have elongated gums giving them an overbite that could open a beer bottle"

so i'm guessing you've never heard the term "bluegum" before?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also I kind of want to see that picture!

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

i want to see the black man's cock.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

we are all cunts but at least we're not retards

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

ugh i feel violated

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

i.e. smooooooooth

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

this thread has raped my brain

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the unnecessary subtext kenan

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020525/sp3.jpg

― gff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

let's see that again

scroll down a little until you see the apposite image

i.e. THE BRAZILIANS THEMSELVES draw Ronaldo and Ronaldinho with caricatured teeth.

i.e. plz 2 understand my point?

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, why are a few of you talking about popcorn? Will someone pls embed popcorn.mid, it will make everyone feel better.

― nickalicious, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but LJ, that picture that the BRAZILIANS DREW THEMSELVES (omg pwned) DOES NOT resemble said hateful iconography.

― G00blar, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

you know, a lot of brazilians have german last names because their parents were escaped nazis :D

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

so i'm guessing you've never heard the term "bluegum" before?

No

― onimo, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

personally, i'm blaming this on rio

― ghost rider, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

you know, a lot of the people giving Louis stick need to take a looksee in the mirror. if you stare long into the abyss, etc.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

BLAME IT ON THE RAIN

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

gut reaction: i didnt think it was racist. i just thought it was ronaldinho.

considered reaction, after discussion: yea ok, not so simple as that

the divide here between brits and americans is striking. the obvious conclusion is that the 'cultural difference' at play here, shows...subconscious...unconsidered...racism prevalent in british people, that has been...worked out more in americans?

or...on the other hand...are the brits trying to defend their original position, rather than their considered opinion

― 600, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

...how do you define what 'looks like hateful iconography'? besides, a bottle-opener has to be shaped a certain way for it to function as a bottle-opener.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Moving on the floor now babe youre a bird of paradise
Cherry ice cream smile I suppose its very nice
With a step to your left and a flick to the right
You catch the mirror way out west
You know youre something special and you look like youre the best.

Her name is rio and she dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dustly land
And when she shines she really shows you all she can
Oh rio rio dancer across the rio grande

Ive seen you on the beach and Ive seen you on tv
Two of a billion stars, it means so much to me -
Like a birthday or a pretty view
But then Im sure that you know its just for you.

Her name is rio and she dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dustly land
And when she shines she really shows you all she can
Oh rio rio dancer across the rio grande

Hey now (wow), look at that.
Did he nearly run you down?
At the end of the drive, the lawmen arrive,
You make me feel alive, alive, alive
Ill take my chance, cause luck is on my side
I tell you something, I know what youre thinking
I tell you something, I know what youre thinking

Her name is rio and she dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dustly land
And when she shines she really shows you all she can
Oh rio rio dancer across the rio grande

Her name is rio and she dont need to understand
And I might find her it Im looking like I can
Oh rio rio hear them shout across the land
From mountains in the north down to the rio grande

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Ah man, I knew it was my fault . . .

I don't see racial issues first != I don't see racial issues ever. It's just that in this instance, that wasn't the first thing to enter my mind. Maybe it should have, I dunno.

(if it'll make it any better, I've got massive unsightly stereotypical English teeth . . . *ducks*)

― The Wayward Johnny B, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

you know, a lot of the people giving Louis stick need to take a looksee in the mirror. if you stare long into the abyss, etc.

Roberto Spiralli on Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:21 PM (4 seconds ago)

When I look in the mirror I see

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6987/yaaaaowkm9.png

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

a bottle-opener has to be shaped a certain way for it to function as a bottle-opener.

ahahaha, okay this is my favorite argument on the thread! I'm sold.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

or...on the other hand...are the brits trying to defend their original position, rather than their considered opinion

600 on Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:21 PM (31 seconds ago)

DO THE REASONABLE BRITISH PEOPLE JUST SLEEP THE FUCK IN OR WHAT

― ghost rider, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

besides, a bottle-opener has to be shaped a certain way for it to function as a bottle-opener.

Here's an idea -- don't make a Ronaldinho bottle-opener!

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny B, I think you are diving in front of a lot of bullets that weren't aimed at you.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Also I kind of want to see that picture!

Okay but YOU ASKED FOR IT

― Matt DC, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

LOUIS THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN (WHITE) BRITISHERS PURCHASING BOTTLE-OPENING CARICATURE KNICK-KNACKS THAT CAN BE PLACED EASILY INTO A CONTEXT OF 'AFFECTIONATE' RACIST ICONOGRAPHY AND BRAZILIANS PAINTING CARICATURES OF NATIONAL ICONS ON WALLS

― max, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

miami style

― ghost rider, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

wait matt what oh my god what my eyes

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

where is ss guys shaving newspaper cat jpg

― gff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

WTF OMG WOW WTF

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

technically it's a sippy cup, not a baby's bottle. I don't really know what else to say.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6987/yaaaaowkm9.png

― nickalicious, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

...how do you define what 'looks like hateful iconography'? besides, a bottle-opener has to be shaped a certain way for it to function as a bottle-opener.

Fine. But I'm not trying to define the best way to make a fucking bottle-opener. I'm explaining why one image seems distasteful while another is not. Yes, you actually have to think harder than: "b-b-b-but this caricature of a black person has big teeth too!" Just some awareness of--some openness to the effects of--history, even if it's (God forbid) someone else's history, is required.

― G00blar, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

biggulp.jpg

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

MATT DC HAS THROROUGHLY PWNED EVERY ARGUMENT ON THIS THREAD, WOW

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

fucking spaniards

― gff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

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