You Want Superman Revamp? [Also the Man of Steel (2013) thread]

Just saw Man Of Steel and enjoyed it for the most part. Noticed quite a few borrowings from elsewhere but still found it pretty good. I'm assuming this is supposed to be the first of a series?
Didn't enjoy the teenagers I was sitting next to talking through large chunks of the film then trying to read a mobile phone with a great shining light a couple of seats down from me.

the viewing experience of Man of Steel summed up in a gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c7a4c3cc004becf6da773231b0dfd902/tumblr_mona0gYSaV1s96p3io1_500.gif

a few articles I enjoyed:

What Man of Steel Gets Wrong

Man of Steel Destruction Analysis

Lol - "WTC puts the body count at 129,000, with over 250,000 missing and nearly a million injured."

This is the fucking problem. Superman didn't even attempt to avert the destruction, just carelessly bowling into buildings like a kid bumps into walls when he's learning to walk. In Superman II, Supes found a way to take the battle into space to avert further destruction to the city or civilian death.

Granted, this Zod has different motives, but you'd think given that Superman has something that Zod needs to fulfill his 'mission', don't you think maybe an ATTEMPT to possibly take the fight out of the city and quit knocking over fucking buildings MAY HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA?

For fuck's sake, less than 3k people died on 9/11, and out of that tragedy we got the TSA, Patriot Act, and a whole slew of changes to our common way of life. If 120,000 Americans died? Well, fairly sure people wouldn't just go on living and whistling Dixie like they did in the end sequence of the film. Metropolis would basically be living under martial law for eons!

Ugh, I fear I've thought way too much about this stupid plot. They should have named this film "Clark Cries".

all the above is more interestingly explored in miracleman
/hobbyhorse

i really liked the hans zimmer score

From the Walter Chaw review already linked above:

Charted on a graph, the rises and falls in action in Man of Steel would look like a mouthful of jagged teeth.

The decibel level on Krypton was pretty deafening. Wonder how bad it was elsewhere in the cinema, but at th eback where I was sitting the sound really boomed.

Somebody started a thread on boards.ie about poor sound in th escreening in th ecinema I saw it in. Sounded pretty clear this afternoon but volume was overly massive.

i liked this a lot more than i expected to!

― the late great, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:23 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not nearly as bad as this thread made me think it would be

― the late great, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:23 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, I liked it more than expected. but the wanton destruction stuff was too much to just write off. it was pretty gross.

http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2013/06/18/man-of-steel/

http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2010/12/17/supervillains-and-insurance-whos-gonna-pay-for-that/

OK what i wanna know is whether they could fly on krypton or not

why would they

they rode around on dinosaurs and jabba the hut and shit

well i'm surprised to learn zod and his dudes picked it up so quickly

at times Shannon's Zod reminded me too much of his Nelson Van Alden character when he killed his partner via extreme baptism at the end of Season 1.

it's true, this was a pretty shouty movie.

climactic battle should have just been a series of ricocheting close ups

I AM ZOD! ARRRRRRRRRR

I AM SUPERMAN! ARRRRRRRRRRR

ARRRRRRRRR

ARRRRRRRRR

ARRR--

ARRR--

AR--

AR--

final three shots

1: CU of ZOD. his eyes close, his head slumps.

2. CU of SUPERMAN.
SUPERMAN: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

3. CU of Lois Lane, looking sympathetic

END

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Damage_Control_1.png/250px-Damage_Control_1.png

hope that wasn't sarcastic

While Rob Bricken is how you say uneven as a writer, I do appreciate his film summaries:

http://io9.com/the-most-important-scenes-from-man-of-steel-as-i-remem-516405346

Things/people/scenery will be punched.

Realistically that's all we can ask for.

― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 13:12 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't understand what ya'll are complaining about.

http://cityarts.info/2013/06/14/serious-fun/

Jesus Christ, Armond...

And there's this film's death knell.

"The Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole is a masterpiece, I promise you"

I didn't hate this! Helps that I'd already been warned about the destruction porn. Liked most of the performances, and while Amy Adams was kind of whatever, I really liked the choice to make her Supes' confidante from the get-go rather than a clueless, arbitrary crush object. I hope they chicken out of Justice League and just give us a snappier sequel with Lex and a Superman who actually cares when buildings fall on people (or at least a director who doesn't show us buildings falling on people).

kinda felt the same, pretty much. really liked Amy Adams though and the angle they went with as you said

it's superman though, punching people through buildings is 90% of what i'm looking for. more 9/11 crap was unnecessary though

god what an ugly, charmless, confused film

goyer and snyder answering the neverending "why can't anyone figure out how to make superman interesting again" with a resounding idgaf

and god how is it that they drill you with the old grade-school "superman as christ figure" symbols and completely ignore that christ had at least a modicum of charisma

holy shit the script actually makes nolan's batman films sound loose by comparison

i could count exactly one point where the dialogue didn't exist for sake of totally self-serious exposition (EVEN IN BATTLE), in the barfy out-of-nowhere "all downhill from the first kiss" exchange, which sort of sounded like something picked out of one of the reeve movies, which only made the script seem more like an aching miserable little barf baby yearning for sweet death, so desperate for purpose or direction or something, oh my god someone please take away david s. goyer's pen

didn't think i'd like iron man 3 more than before but i do now

MoS summed up in two words:

http://i.imgur.com/61Eoi.gif

it's superman though, punching people through buildings is 90% of what i'm looking for

what Superman stuff have you liked before

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/vkfUUqowQjA/mqdefault.jpg

a friend emailed this over the weekend:

http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/images/2010b/superman-zod.gif

first picture: yes

second picture: idgi

OK, let's go here... (makes me almost wanna see it)

If anything, Shannon’s Zod reminded me of an ultra-right Likudnik. The big, loud climax of the movie comes when Zod sends two gigantic robo-drills to terraform Earth into a New Krypton, which would of course end with the total extinction of the human race. But Zod’s not too worried about that. He all but says “can’t make Space-Zion without breaking a few eggs.”

For a character dreamed up by two Jewish boys in Cleveland as a kind of Moses-cum-Christ figure, it’s bizarre that no one’s made this connection yet. Which goes to show you just how off-the-radar the plight of the Palestinians is for both mainstream America as well as our circle of liberal film critics.

http://jacobinmag.com/2013/06/i-love-man-of-steel-and-im-not-sorry/

this movie made me think of Dune too, mostly when Michael Shannon screamed "I WILL FIND HIM! I WILL FIND HIM!"

Hahahah I thought the exact same thing.

how fucking random was it that a free-falling jor-el was saved by his trusty dragon

Watching that scene I felt like Bart and Lisa watching Poochie returning to his home planet.

"They have dragons on Krypton?"
"I...guess."

shoulda had a dragon sent to the phantom zone so zod could show up on earth with a dragon

my cut would have also had aaron paul as a streetwise jimmy olson noting that dragons were now up in this bitch

Which goes to show you just how off-the-radar the plight of the Palestinians is for both mainstream America as well as our circle of liberal film critics.

Wait until he gets to the second act of World War Z.

really kind of lolled a bit when the council asked Zod "On whose order?" and Zod replies "Mine" and ices the lady.

What did she expect him to say?

I was hoping the movie would end with hologram following Zod around annoying him until Zod killed himself.

god, Holo-Dad, like shut up already

Kal-El, the floor of this spacecraft is not a hamper...

hahaha

how fucking random was it that a free-falling jor-el was saved by his trusty dragon

― da croupier, Monday, June 24, 2013 12:44 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

avatar, dude.