I loved that Bob's reply was "can you give me a day's head start"? It's amazing how prepared he was to start running.
― polyphonic, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
not as savvy/self-confident as Don there
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
pete & bob are so gonna hook up
― wk, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
but there's a huge difference between the two which everybody knows: Don, at the time Pete tried to out him to Cooper, was abslutely essential to the agency, Bob isn't. Pete tried to get rid of Don to clear a path for himself upwards. Getting rid of Bob wouldn't do anything for him. So now he can use his knowledge to control Bob.
― mizzell, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
Hey Gals & Guys maybe you should just enjoy the mystery of BB
― copter (waterface), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there's that. altho it was weird how hard the other execs threw in for Bob, I thought.
xp
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
well Bob has made a very good show of being johnny-on-the-spot all the time, he's ingratiated himself to all of them. appearance is everything
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
i thought "i'm off limits" was "stop hitting on me"
in fact my whole original takeaway from that scene was that pete was just negotiating not to be the target of a "pervert" who'd be "capable of anything" -- real gay panic. but that seems maybe too narrow and petty even for pete
― discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
I think there was definitely that to it, but that was compounded by Bob's similarity to Don
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
have don and bob actually had any interaction yet? i don't remember any scenes with them talking to each other.
― dunham checks in (get bent), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
in the elevator. bob had coffee
― mizzell, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Bob's Spanish-language freakout on the phone + Bob's sudden ability to stop smiling and get dark and threatening + the angelic gay gaze = ominous portents
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
bob offering don coffee on the ~elevator~ was bob's first scene iirc
― discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Total reverse Don Draper, viewed from the outside. I got the impression Pete was partly just staying out of his way as he rises to the top and pushes everyone else out of the way, sorta
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
another thing is that maybe pete figured bob will eventually hang himself with his own rope, so pete can have some fun without looking like the bad guy he always looks like
― dunham checks in (get bent), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Pete has kind of been my favourite character this season? It makes me feel dirty, but his reactions to everything are hilarious
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, June 17, 2013 1:53 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this was way creepy, the way he dropped his act and laid into pete then just turned the smile back on
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
pete's subplots this season seem fairly independent from the other ones, bob's excepted of course
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
i really liked the curled-up don bookends, and i guess the whole ep hewed to that in-shock/withdrawn trope to a degree, but it was tough to watch without just feeling really really bummed/disturbed at what lies ahead :\
― 69, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah not gonna be pretty
is there an anigif out there yet of Kiernan Shipka's little smirk when her roommate concluded that "she liked trouble"
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Bob's Spanish-language freakout on the phone + Bob's sudden ability to stop smiling and get dark and threatening + the angelic gay gaze = yumz
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
It's funny at least twice on this show someone has said "not all surprises are bad" but there's always a constant foreboding something terrible is about to unfold (and usually does).
― ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
oooh good spot -- who besides juggling roger said that?
― 69, Monday, 17 June 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Don says it to Sally in the same episode that baby Gene is born. Season 3.
― ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
"i thought you were going to pee"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
The appearance of "Porpoise Song" reminds me about the similarities between the opening of HEAD and the MM credits. Mickey Dolenz IS the 'falling man'.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
xxp ahhh right
― 69, Monday, 17 June 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
no rizzo this week
― data halls and oate (stevie), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
the thing about rosemary's baby is, yes it's unsettling, but the ending is also kind of hilarious
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
it's all kind of hilarious!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, but the ending in partic
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
so what precisely is the deal w/ pete's mom and manolo?
also love joan's "jewish mother" accent
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
the acted out scenario was hilarious. Joan and Don-the-baby especially
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
The moment I find out anyone is gay, I lose interest. Bob Benson is no exception.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
https://mlkshk.com/r/RVO5
― Dan I., Monday, 17 June 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu216/le_bateau_ivre/download-2.jpg
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
Srsly, what a fucking great episode.
"THE GREATEST TV DRAMA OF ALL TIME" at the end had me in stitches
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with JF (?) that Pete likes to keep Bob under his thumb. Knowing of his secret past and being able to hold it against him, as a threat. Which he wasn't able to do with Don.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone I've known named Manolo is libidinous as hell.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
"THE GREATEST TV DRAMA OF ALL TIME"
Rob Sheffield is a cool guy, but when I first saw this pullquote from what is presumably some kind of review he'd written I flipped out. WHAT.THE.HELL.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
I almost hope the manolo thing remains an enduring mystery a la the Russian on the sopranos.
― ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, June 17, 2013 6:31 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i read it w/ an implied ellipse, à la muhammad ali
"the greatest TV drama... OF ALL TIIIME!"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
Otm. The 'next week on the season finale of Mad Men'-trailer was all sorts of shite too.
Massive love for Sally. And for Glen, who resisted peer pressure and is truly ~devoted~ to her well-being.
For some reason I really loved Don this episode. He was bad ass and mean, but he knew it: he at least had "qualities" again. In the previous episodes he'd been an empty vessel, the man without qualities. At least he's got something of his streak back; even if it's mean, still very much favourable to watch compared to a Don that is just falling, helplessly (hi dere title sequence).
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
For some reason though Bob's schtick - I am a conman, and possibly gay - still doesn't seem satisfying to me. Must be more to him. Pete's "Who hired you?" I thought was really supposed to mean "Who hired you to infiltrate here?". But then Bob, rightfully, got to say it was in fact Pete that had hired him and it faded. But a smiley guy with a secret past, can that really be what Bob is all about? Surely not.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
don hasn't seemed to contribute anything in the creative dep't all season -- that's still his job title
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
I had thought for a second that maybe the baby stuff and fetal position represented some sort of "bottom" in the AA sense but that feels unlikely now.
― ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Don clicking away from Megan on the telly was brutal. Just brutal.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
The 'next week on the season finale of Mad Men'-trailer was all sorts of shite too.
Yeah, my first post after this week's ep was basically the same thing. NEXT WEEK ON MAD MEN: A BUNCH OF CLIPS FROM PAST EPISODES!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link