You Want Superman Revamp? [Also the Man of Steel (2013) thread]

never forget

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Can't see the youtubes but what I love most about returns is the weird rhythm of all the dialogue between the trio of villains, its like they go into pentameter or something. Schumacher seemed to shoot for the same thing but it came out as weak camp? Tho I like all batfilms to an extent.

jeez i just can't like much of anything about batman begins and TDK (didn't see the last one) movies, and i'm not really a nolan-hater. they were just D.O.A. to me.

dont we almost exclusively see batman working at night in batman begins and TDK? i feel like TDKR is the only one where he screwed that pooch

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 16 June 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'd think that, then Nolan gives you something you wanted all along but just didn't know you wanted.

ok ok this is too reminiscent of last year I'll stop.

somehow forgot just how awesome michelle pfeiffer was in batman returns, also totally forgot 'bruce wayne, why are you dressed up like batman?'.

best superhero movie

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Pfeiffer is the best I love her

Is there a pfeiffer thread, I want to talk about I could never be your woman

michelle fucking owns that movie. her, keaton and walken are all insanely great in the scene where walken dies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalexosgwUk

love keaton's reading of 'split right down the center'

IDK that scene was kind of awkwardly put together

i should see that again i guess, i remember it being kind of convoluted and horrible, but i was a teenage so

its not great... it pains me to say as a devito diehard but he had no place in that movie

It's Always Not Sunny in Gotham City

jeez i just can't like much of anything about batman begins and TDK (didn't see the last one) movies, and i'm not really a nolan-hater. they were just D.O.A. to me.

otm

Michelle Pfeiffer gave my favorite performance in a superhero movie. RDJ is second, I guess.

what about christopher reeves? all-time best superhero performance

what makes this movie look so shitty to me is that it seems completely humourless... superman is such a god figure that you need a little clark kent comic relief to make him seem even remotely human... reeves nailed that and that super-grinny supermanness

well, Nolan's the producer, and he's allergic to laffs.

xpost -- The end of this new one actually sets that up a touch, so...who knows?

And while there aren't many laughs at all, they are there.

Not saying that'll convince either of you two, obviously!

xpost -- The end of this new one actually sets that up a touch, so...who knows?

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

does it end with clark kent knocking over a coffee cup or something?

yeah i'd give the crown to christopher reeve (who is terrible in almost every other movie he's in...)

anyway, i'm gonna see this, but i hope you guys are ready to hear me bitch and moan about it

xxpost -- KRYPTONITE coffee.

it ends with superman going 'i need a job' and he bicycles to the daily planet and finally puts on the iconic glasses and lois lane gives him a knowing smile

http://www.theonion.com/articles/economically-healthy-daily-planet-now-most-unreali,28718/

I laughed every time ihop appeared but ihop definitely taking liberties with canon.

H4A that smile is consistently the best thing about this movie don't knock it

do they do some awful update where he works for the huffington post or something

yeah i might see this tonight

as with every time i go see one of these mega-blockbusters in the theater, there will probably be a few moments while watching the movie when i get the existential shudders and wonder why i am spending part of my brief existence watching a movie i don't even expect to be good

What HfA said about the ending. It's not Reeve, but it's quiet humor that works. I actually really liked the fact that they make Lois Not An Idiot because she doesn't fall for the glasses thing for a second.

Reeve is fantastic! The moment in Superman II when he says "I blew it" in the vacant Fortress of Solitude makes my chin tremble. He was a whiz at switching from dork to hunk without losing his wits.

do they do some awful update where he works for the huffington post or something

Haha there's this Neil Patrick Harris guy who works for some sort of TMZ style site who plays a role. But not at the Daily Planet, which is still planeting.

Without spoiling it, the huffpo blogosphere stuff is part of the movie

Supermans smile pretty cute too Xps

he was so swoony as Superman. and his Clark was true dork

Without spoiling it, the huffpo blogosphere stuff is part of the movie

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:31 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark

*gets excited*

he was so swoony as Superman. and his Clark was true dork

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:31 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

qft

it's astonishing how he never got a part so suited to his talents. The only time he ever summoned the same lightness again is in Switching Channels, the DOA remake of The Front Page.

Yeah I'm thinking of all the things I saw him in, and they just all never quite worked. I mean... Somewhere in Time, Deathwish, Anna Karenina.

reeves as superrake in 3 is good too. nusuperman is weirdly summoning quinto's Spock throughout.

Meanwhile, accident of history and casting but over on Twitter a friend pointed out that Superman's dads in this new one are both Robin Hood.

Thinking about this movie gives me a sense-memory headache

Michael Shannon might have made an interesting superman since they were going the brooding intense route anyway. His accent feels more farmy than britstraterrestrial anyway

He also looks kind of like an Alex Ross superman

Really hated the second half of this movie. There's only so much superpunching my eyes can take.

he was so swoony as Superman. and his Clark was true dork

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 16, 2013 12:31 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some pretty good slapstick in first two movies, esp. in #2.

and ned the thing how nobody realizes clark is superman, including lois, doesn't make her or anyone else stupid! it's just a wonderful conceit that i'm sure a movie as Serious as this one hasn't the imagination for.

i always loved that conceit, back to when i was a little kid. "it's superman, can't you see?" --yelled gleefully at the TV.

loved the bit with Lois and the juicer and the sight gag of the choked-with-cigs ashtray.

reeve was great. he was perfect in a way that's difficult to describe - he's just great to look at, this big broad-shouldered guy in a nylon body suit, hands on his hips and wry smile on his face. he radiates decency, but somehow isnt dull or dreary. the lightness of touch is there but you know you'd still feel a little nervous if you were standing next to him. he's the best thing about superman '78

if they do a sequel to man of steel and they try to add a comic element with bumbling clark kent, it's gonna be a disaster because cavill's a huge liability as an actor

Meanwhile over in Zimmerworld:

Zimmer found a couple of things about Superman that were relevant to him, mainly the idea of being a stranger in a strange land and, always being a foreigner, how does one then look at America?

"Especially throughout the last few years of working on Dark Knight, etc., we've been looking at America in a rather sort of grim way," Zimmer explains. "The thing that has been left out of any conversation is just to honor hard-working folk. I thought, 'Wow, I just want to use this movie to celebrate the endlessness of the Midwest, the farmers, the people who leave their doors unlocked because they trust in the people who invite the stranger in and give them a cup of tea and coffee.'

"The dignity of the blue-collar man – wouldn't that be nice to celebrate? Just stop with all the dark stuff for a second."

"i guess i'll try to find a film that's about that, after i'm done writing the 'man of steel' score"